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    Spurs are still paying Sato's contract for this year. Point being if the Spurs can throw away $600,000+ on a player they don't even have on the roster, why is $1.5 million too much to spend on a player they could actually use?
    No, they're not.

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    There you go. The Spurs' management has also found the optimal contract structure to use to sign these younger players so that if they do pan out, they won't have a problem retaining them while minimizing the potential liability if they don't.

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    Why didn't they do what it took to sign Matt Barnes then? He was another the front office had an interest in and he took the minimum for one year to play for the Knicks. Oh, but signing a guy to a 1 year contract for the minimum would've ruined this club's financial performance and position.
    He's the one I wonder about, too. He spent quite some time with the Spurs in the off-season. The other guys all signed longer term deals, so I understood.

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    He's the one I wonder about, too. He spent quite some time with the Spurs in the off-season. The other guys all signed longer term deals, so I understood.

    Ford didn't. There is a pattern here.

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    ...and Barry turns 35 next month.


    FWIW, Barry turns 34 next month. I guess if one inch makes that big of a difference, one year should too.


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    free agents obviously want to come to the spurs. people want to play with duncan, ginobili and parker. i see the spurs having few problems in the next few years. if a sub-30 free agent small forward with talent gets wise and wants a solid chance at a ring, there's a good chance that he will come to SA to get it. finley is definitely more of a quick fix than anything, but seriously, if any of these guys were what the spurs really needed or wanted, don't you think pop and RC would have found a way to get it done?

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    Why didn't they do what it took to sign Matt Barnes then? He was another the front office had an interest in and he took the minimum for one year to play for the Knicks. Oh, but signing a guy to a 1 year contract for the minimum would've ruined this club's financial performance and position. Yeah.
    So you know all about the negotiations with Barnes? Link them, please.
    I had no deep interest in seeing Maurice Evans as a Spur
    You want the Spurs to spend $9 million on a player you have no deep interest in.

    We have found the level of the room.

    Bravo.

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    Barnes signed for the min with the Knicks. Surely someone of your caliber could ascertain that.

    I want the Spurs to be proactive and not worry about the lux tax to the point that it limits their ability to develop young talent. If you are too obtuse to understand that or too sad that whottt won't play with you anymore, then exit the room or wait for your period to end.

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    free agents obviously want to come to the spurs. people want to play with duncan, ginobili and parker. i see the spurs having few problems in the next few years. if a sub-30 free agent small forward with talent gets wise and wants a solid chance at a ring, there's a good chance that he will come to SA to get it. finley is definitely more of a quick fix than anything, but seriously, if any of these guys were what the spurs really needed or wanted, don't you think pop and RC would have found a way to get it done?

    Perhaps they are limited in what they can do by ownership?

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    Barnes signed for the min with the Knicks. Surely someone of your caliber could ascertain that.
    I know. I'm talking about the Spurs. Surely you could ascertain that.
    I want the Spurs to be proactive and not worry about the lux tax to the point that it limits their ability to develop young talent.
    It's entirely possible that will still happen and the guys waived simply wern't up to snuff.
    If you are too obtuse to understand that or too sad that whottt won't play with you anymore, then exit the room or wait for your period to end.
    Sorry you got burned by Buddy Holly, dude. Don't be sore.

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    It's entirely possible that will still happen and the guys waived simply wern't up to snuff.
    You know that can't be it Chump.

    The Spurs are too cheap. Come on.

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    Perhaps they are limited in what they can do by ownership?
    Can you write anything else that does not have to do with the Spurs ownership and them being cheap? Please. Get off of it.

    How many teams have you owned or ran? Zero.

    You don't know more than anyone in the Spurs front office and no one here believes you do.

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    FWIW, Barry turns 34 next month. I guess if one inch makes that big of a difference, one year should too.


    one inch ?

    The Spurs will be fine right up until the day the TD retires. The entire structure of the team is built around Timmy D - everything else is complimentary. The Spurs are designed to win and they will continue to win and improve. They keep finding talent and they seem to be able to recruit just about anyone in the league to come play with the guys on the roster ( especially Tim). The day Tim retires is the day you can start to worry. - hopefully before then they will be able to pick up a big man via free agency and tim can play the D-rob role for 2 years and then retire passing the torch to the new young buck to carry the Spurs into DYNASTY

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    I know. I'm talking about the Spurs. Surely you could ascertain that.It's entirely possible that will still happen and the guys waived simply wern't up to snuff.Sorry you got burned by Buddy Holly, dude. Don't be sore.

    It's more likely that they have passed on players they liked because Holt is bent on getting under the threshold.

    Burned by what? The Spurs didn't sign Evans. Did whottt make you cry again?

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    one inch ?

    The Spurs will be fine right up until the day the TD retires. The entire structure of the team is built around Timmy D - everything else is complimentary. The Spurs are designed to win and they will continue to win and improve. They keep finding talent and they seem to be able to recruit just about anyone in the league to come play with the guys on the roster ( especially Tim). The day Tim retires is the day you can start to worry. - hopefully before then they will be able to pick up a big man via free agency and tim can play the D-rob role for 2 years and then retire passing the torch to the new young buck to carry the Spurs into DYNASTY

    Of course the Spurs are always able to recruit exactly who they need to San Antonio. Of course there will always be amnesty clause victims to sign.

    You people are so ing blind it's hysterical.

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    It's more likely that they have passed on players they liked because Holt is bent on getting under the threshold.
    Since you are so privy to every internal decision made by the Spur, attend every practice and listen in on every phone call, we have to take your word for it.

    I'd say it's a possiblity, compounded by the fact that none of these guys had anything the Spurs would need for at least two seasons.

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    Denial is the first stage. You'll get through this in time.

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    Of course the Spurs are always able to recruit exactly who they need to San Antonio. Of course there will always be amnesty clause victims to sign.

    You people are so ing blind it's hysterical.
    I think it's a form of blindness to believe that every decision the Spurs make that you agree with is because of RC and Pop.

    I think it's a form of blindness to believe that every decision the Spurs make that you disagree with is because of Holt.

    /shrug. Guess we all must play with the cards the gods deal us.

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    Since you are so privy to every internal decision made by the Spur, attend every practice and listen in on every phone call, we have to take your word for it.
    That hasn't stopped you from passing judgement before.


    I'd say it's a possiblity, compounded by the fact that none of these guys had anything the Spurs would need for at least two seasons.
    So we hope.

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    Denial is the first stage. You'll get through this in time.
    The Spurs didn't sign Evans. That was the subject of the thread.

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    The Spurs didn't sign Evans. That was the subject of the thread.
    Look man, you know what you said. Just get over it.

    If you can convince me there aren't similar talents still available and we missed out on something really special other than two undersized athletes and another LJ3, I'll weep for the future of the franchise.

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    The Spurs didn't sign Evans. That was the subject of the thread.
    The subject of the thread was answered with the link where Evans admitted getting an offer from the Spurs, but he chose the Pistons due to his familiarity with Saunders. There hasn't been any other info posted concerning the size and length of the offer the Spurs made to Evans.

    In other words, there is no base for the claim that Holt's penny-pinching ways (at least in this isolated scenario) cost the Spurs a young, talented swingman.

    coopdogg3

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    Explain Matt Barnes. Explain Devin Brown.

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    Look man, you know what you said. Just get over it.
    Yeah, I asked why the Spurs didn't sign Evans.


    If you can convince me there aren't similar talents still available and we missed out on something really special other than two undersized athletes and another LJ3, I'll weep for the future of the franchise.
    How about when Mohammed walks, they dump Radoslav for nothing and Oberto blows out a knee?

    Holt was ready to lose Parker for nothing.

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    Explain Matt Barnes.
    I don't know that he was or wasn't made an offer. Do you?
    Explain Devin Brown.
    Same as Evans, but for $5 million this season.

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