Will President Trump Go To Jail?

[ChumpDumper]

Indicted, on trial, even convicted? Plausibly.

Indicted means nothing.

On trial means nothing in a vacuum, either.

Convicted will be when things start to crack for him, depending on which and how many convictions.

Imprisoned is the tipping point. Will it be a token sentence like what Jussie Smollett got, a few days and then some months on house arrest and then pretty much nothing after that? Or will be sentenced to federal prison, on a jail campus and not house arrest, full-time, and forced to serve multiple years on a jail campus, through 2024 and years beyond, without access to the public, not to mention the RNC Convention next July?

There is a big and drastic difference in all of that.

Even if he wins the primary popular vote and/or delegate count by 30%, if he is not nominated by the RNC, then he is not the nominee. In that case, the Republican nominee will get >98% of the GOP vote, regardless of who they voted for in the primaries. The truth is that it is a two-party country and almost every voter is aware of that.

The average Trump voter, even the average Trump primary voter, understands the meaning of two-party system to the extent that they would turn out and vote for the primary winner regardless of it is the person they voted for in the primary or not. They're not ing voting third-party out of spite. Sure some ultra MAGA QAnon religious crazy types might but they're scarce as serial killers. And Trump isn't burning his bridge out of prison by running third party and sabotaging his best chance at a presidential pardon from a Desantis Administration that he would never get from a democratic admin.

again, you're trying to apply logic to Trump and his followers. They're going to start bombing and shooting and rioting if Trump is convicted and you're here saying they're going to fall in line behind a short weirdo Trump is going to call a short weirdo in a couple weeks.

A second Biden term isn't the worst case scenario. , even a Harris term isn't the worst case scenario. Just not having Trump back in office will be the end of the world and nothing will matter after that.

[Millennial_Messiah]

again, you're trying to apply logic to Trump and his followers. They're going to start bombing and shooting and rioting if Trump is convicted and you're here saying they're going to fall in line behind a short weirdo Trump is going to call a short weirdo in a couple weeks.

I'll bet you $300,000 clean cash that they won't. One or two lone wolves doesn't count, either.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll bet you $300,000 clean cash that they won't. One or two lone wolves doesn't count, either.

instahedge

[baseline bum]

If he doesn't get the nomination at the convention, simply put he isn't the nominee, regardless of how many delegates he wins in the primary. You understand how a convention and nomination process works, right? If he isn't the (R) or (D) nominee, he has zero shot at being president again, no matter what. It's a two-party country; that's it, and that's all. Sure, he can create a third party (not Libertarian, they have already sworn off Trump for multiple reasons) to spite the GOP and run as an independent, but realistically in that case he'll probably garner a maximum of 2-3% of the vote share, similar to Jo Jorgensen in 2020. Possibly even underperforming the Libertarian candidate.

Also, if he ever wants out of federal prison, he'd be sure as smart to not run third party, not shoot his only lifeline (The GOP) in the foot and to rather put his eggs all into the Desantis / (R) candidate basket, because Biden or whoever the (D) candidate is would never pardon him, while Desantis surely would and even most (R)s not as favorable to Trump such as even Pence or Haley would almost definitely pardon him as well.

Running third party against Desantis and sabotaging the GOP in 2024 would prove to the American public, including even some of his core base, that he really was never America First all along, but rather Trump-first and Trump-centric and nothing else but an autocentric megalomaniac.

Wow Trump's really not about putting America first? Next thing you're going to tell me he really didn't want to build a wall. He'd take enormous delight in sinking the GOP in the general if he doesn't get the nomination. We already saw him sabotage the GOP when he handed the Democrats the senate in 2020 by telling his cult to stay home your vote doesn't matter in the GA runoffs.

[ducks]

So you think they've got Trump right where they want him, eh? Wait till you hear what this former federal prosecutor turned high-end defense attorney has to say

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-the...221112415.html

[ChumpDumper]

So you think they've got Trump right where they want him, eh? Wait till you hear what this former federal prosecutor turned high-end defense attorney has to say

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-the...221112415.html

I mean if you have to rely upon naked judicial corruption to save your criminal -- good for you, I guess.

[MultiTroll]

I mean if you have to rely upon naked judicial corruption to save your criminal -- good for you, I guess.

What is inaccurate about the link Ducks posted?

It says if the corrupt judge wants to get Orange Hitler off scott free she has numerous ways to accomplish.
US Injustice System.

[ChumpDumper]

What is inaccurate about the link Ducks posted?

I didn't say it was inaccurate.

[benefactor]

So you think they've got Trump right where they want him, eh? Wait till you hear what this former federal prosecutor turned high-end defense attorney has to say

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-the...221112415.html

Im sorry this is happening to you

[MultiTroll]

I mean if you have to rely upon naked judicial corruption to save your criminal -- good for you, I guess.

I didn't say it was inaccurate.

You certainly imply that saving criminal Trump will be a longshot.

[Extra Stout]

Aileen Cannon, if she decides she wants to get Trump off the hook, has any number of means of doing so. It’s a risk for her career to be so brazenly corrupt, but if protecting Trump is that important to her, there’s very little anybody can do about it.

She could play it straight until jeopardy is in play, then tank the case such that it cannot be appealed.

[Ef-man]

I mean if you have to rely upon naked judicial corruption to save your criminal -- good for you, I guess.

When Yam s is found guilty, will he have the cyber-monkeys review the jury’s vote count for Dominion voting system irregularities or blame Hugo Chavez (whose servers are in Germany) for changing all the Biden guilty verdicts to Yam s guilty verdicts?

[ChumpDumper]

You certainly imply that saving criminal Trump will be a longshot.

I did not.

Faulty inference.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Aileen Cannon, if she decides she wants to get Trump off the hook, has any number of means of doing so. It’s a risk for her career to be so brazenly corrupt, but if protecting Trump is that important to her, there’s very little anybody can do about it.

She could play it straight until jeopardy is in play, then tank the case such that it cannot be appealed.

a lot of Trump appointees in general haven't been loyal to him. Just saying.

Then again the Cuomo appointed judges in NY weren't loyal to Hochul last year. So it's a crapshoot game of Survivor. You don't know who is loyal or who is a snake in the grass anymore. I'm in favor of abolishing all courts and judges and having a simple vote of the people if a case cannot be solved by concrete evidence by the police.

[baseline bum]

a lot of Trump appointees in general haven't been loyal to him. Just saying.

Aileen Cannon has.

[ElNono]

Aileen Cannon, if she decides she wants to get Trump off the hook, has any number of means of doing so. It’s a risk for her career to be so brazenly corrupt, but if protecting Trump is that important to her, there’s very little anybody can do about it.

She could play it straight until jeopardy is in play, then tank the case such that it cannot be appealed.

Not really true, tbh... she can, however, delay the trial enough to get close to one year from now, when the primaries are done, and if he ends up being the GOP nominee, the trial itself might have to be postponed until after the elections.

[ElNono]

Why is Andy ing and arguing? We all here knows that if Trump is the nominee, he's going to line up and vote for that criminal...

[ChumpDumper]

Bump.....

indeed

[Millennial_Messiah]

If he goes to prison, sure he can "run" as a fully self-funded independent campaign from prison, but no way in will he get the Republican nomination. He may not even be allowed to run as a Republican by the GOP committees. They may formally remove him from the party. Of course he can always run as an independent and get about the amount of vote that Jo Joegersen got.

People way over estimate the amount of "MAGA Crazies" there are. 98% of everyone who voted for Trump voted for him because he's the Republican nominee and they're not Democrat / they believe the Democrats are simply a worse choice. Especially in the case of Hillary. Even with Biden for the most part.

[Ef-man]

So you think they've got Trump right where they want him, eh? Wait till you hear what this former federal prosecutor turned high-end defense attorney has to say

https://www.yahoo.com/news/think-the...221112415.html

Who is this high-end Yam s' defense attorney that you speak of and what has he said, besides him saying that your wife has sorry, saggy s?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If he goes to prison, sure he can "run" as a fully self-funded independent campaign from prison, but no way in will he get the Republican nomination. He may not even be allowed to run as a Republican by the GOP committees. They may formally remove him from the party. Of course he can always run as an independent and get about the amount of vote that Jo Joegersen got.

People way over estimate the amount of "MAGA Crazies" there are. 98% of everyone who voted for Trump voted for him because he's the Republican nominee and they're not Democrat / they believe the Democrats are simply a worse choice. Especially in the case of Hillary. Even with Biden for the most part.

Sorry but there is a well do ented segment of people that comes out for Trump that do not come out for the GOP.

[scott]

a lot of Trump appointees in general haven't been loyal to him. Just saying.

Then again the Cuomo appointed judges in NY weren't loyal to Hochul last year. So it's a crapshoot game of Survivor. You don't know who is loyal or who is a snake in the grass anymore. I'm in favor of abolishing all courts and judges and having a simple vote of the people if a case cannot be solved by concrete evidence by the police.

lolwut? Libertarians and their fantasy land ideas.

"Alright, everyone, make sure to cast your vote in the civil contract dispute between these two companies none of you have ever heard of or is qualified to evaluate"

[scott]

If he goes to prison, sure he can "run" as a fully self-funded independent campaign from prison, but no way in will he get the Republican nomination. He may not even be allowed to run as a Republican by the GOP committees. They may formally remove him from the party. Of course he can always run as an independent and get about the amount of vote that Jo Joegersen got.

People way over estimate the amount of "MAGA Crazies" there are. 98% of everyone who voted for Trump voted for him because he's the Republican nominee and they're not Democrat / they believe the Democrats are simply a worse choice. Especially in the case of Hillary. Even with Biden for the most part.

You must be living under the same rock that all the Trump bridge trolls emerged from over the last 8 years.

[ElNono]

Doubtful his case will be done by the time the election rolls around...

[FrostKing]

Multiple threads?