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    Back in like '06 I bought the NBA 25 years of champions DVD set and by far the best videos they did were from 95-96 through 99-00. Those five videos were the best the NBA ever produced. Then they got cheap as with production after that.
    Those were great times for the NBA. I picked up a basketball in organized ball for the first time.

    I really liked how compared to other sports, i was able to improve quickly. Focus and effort takes you far.

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    MJ to Kerr & Paxson

    You walked into this one amigo
    What are you talking about. It was Pippen to grant then to Paxson. Then grant blocked KJ to preserve the win. The camera just kept on jordan as if he did something.

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    LOL Boston had homecourt in that series and were 56-26 vs Milwaukee's 51-31, but I know facts don't matter to the right. Everyone knows why you don't like LeBron, same way every other right winger on this site hates him.
    He is disliked because he is a whiney biznitch who builds his own teams, then b!tches and bails out when his roster implodes.

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    I've never seen a superstar who seems so unrelatable in my lifetime of watching sports....as in so robotic to the point he doesn't even seem like an actual human being. A-Rod is probably the only one who comes kinda close. Like absolutely nothing Lebron does comes across as genuine...even when he tries to go into " " mode cutting it up at the barbershop, it seems completely scripted and fake. Even on the court, it's like he's half showman/half player. When he goes on a magical run in a big playoff game, he breaks out pre-scripted dances with emotion that just comes across as forced. Not hating, just find it really weird...and it wasn't always this way IMO. It felt different his first go round in Cleveland, and even early on in Miami. But it feels like at some point during his time in Miami, somebody planted a microchip in him and he turned into a robot or something. Even the fact that he's played this long and never gets injured is weird to me.

    Maybe he's just a George Soros plant designed to distract us all from the inevitable Zionist takeover tbh imho

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    He is disliked because he is a whiney biznitch who builds his own teams, then b!tches and bails out when his roster implodes.
    If Lebron is disliked it's because he opts out and goes elsewhere. If he was Patty Mills doing that, no one would care. Since you know he takes any winning chances you have with him, you get pretty upset about it. It really has nothing to do with his demeanor.

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    He is disliked because he is a whiney biznitch who builds his own teams, then b!tches and bails out when his roster implodes.
    crofl Jordan tried to recruit players and publicly threw his FO under the bus….
    Magic said he would have played 1 more year in college if the Bulls drafted him instead of the Lakers, because he wanted to play with Kareem…
    He was also a coach killer…
    Barkley forced trades twice for a ring


    All whiny es


    but yeah nostalgia

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    Idk. It’s more of a collection of things why LeBron is disliked, even hated.

    The Decision in and of itself is one of the things that turned a lot of people off. It was so disingenuously self-aggrandizing under the guise of “doing it for the kids.” But it’s also having the “Chosen One” tattooed on his back before playing a minute in the NBA. The fact that he’s pretty much lived up to the hype doesn’t absolve him of that pretty egregiously arrogant tattoo. And to play off that, the whole Nike “Witness” campaign when he was just a rookie, as if we were watching the actual second coming of Christ. Unless you were a Cleveland fan, it was pretty obvious why some people hated on him very early on. Then there was a period early on in his career where as a 6’9, 250 pound sculpted Greek god physical specimen that he’d flop and fall down like his legs were made of toothpicks. That’s very hatable. Oh, and of course, “not 1... not 2... not 3... not 4...” but actually, yeah, only just 2.

    LeBron has brought on plenty of critics and haters for more than just him beating their teams and taking away opportunities for fans of other teams to watch their teams win. Honestly, it’s not just him going from team to team and GMing moves in order to win.

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    I've never seen a superstar who seems so unrelatable in my lifetime of watching sports....as in so robotic to the point he doesn't even seem like an actual human being. A-Rod is probably the only one who comes kinda close. Like absolutely nothing Lebron does comes across as genuine...even when he tries to go into " " mode cutting it up at the barbershop, it seems completely scripted and fake. Even on the court, it's like he's half showman/half player. When he goes on a magical run in a big playoff game, he breaks out pre-scripted dances with emotion that just comes across as forced. Not hating, just find it really weird...and it wasn't always this way IMO. It felt different his first go round in Cleveland, and even early on in Miami. But it feels like at some point during his time in Miami, somebody planted a microchip in him and he turned into a robot or something. Even the fact that he's played this long and never gets injured is weird to me.
    A-Rod does come across that way too.

    Also thought of Tiger Woods, Pete Sampras. Especially, pre-scandals Tiger. The with his wife and sex addition kind of humanized Tiger a little bit. But in interviews and post golf pressers, he often seemed fake and pretentious to me.

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    I've never seen a superstar who seems so unrelatable in my lifetime of watching sports....as in so robotic to the point he doesn't even seem like an actual human being. A-Rod is probably the only one who comes kinda close. Like absolutely nothing Lebron does comes across as genuine...even when he tries to go into " " mode cutting it up at the barbershop, it seems completely scripted and fake. Even on the court, it's like he's half showman/half player. When he goes on a magical run in a big playoff game, he breaks out pre-scripted dances with emotion that just comes across as forced. Not hating, just find it really weird...and it wasn't always this way IMO. It felt different his first go round in Cleveland, and even early on in Miami. But it feels like at some point during his time in Miami, somebody planted a microchip in him and he turned into a robot or something. Even the fact that he's played this long and never gets injured is weird to me.

    Maybe he's just a George Soros plant designed to distract us all from the inevitable Zionist takeover tbh imho
    Man its almost like every person ever has been on dude's since he was 13 years old and he doesn't know how to act like a normal every day human. And despite this he has remained scandal free. And has lived up to a more insane amount of hype than i've ever seen put on a young person besides Tiger.

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    crofl Jordan tried to recruit players and publicly threw his FO under the bus….
    Magic said he would have played 1 more year in college if the Bulls drafted him instead of the Lakers, because he wanted to play with Kareem…
    He was also a coach killer…
    Barkley forced trades twice for a ring


    All whiny es


    but yeah nostalgia
    LeBron is the only guy out of all those mentioned who actually builds his own rosters. GM's have to let him do it or he crs and leaves.
    Last edited by Dirks_Finale; 02-12-2023 at 02:20 PM.

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    Man its almost like every person ever has been on dude's since he was 13 years old and he doesn't know how to act like a normal every day human. And despite this he has remained scandal free. And has lived up to a more insane amount of hype than i've ever seen put on a young person besides Tiger.
    I didn't say it was a bad thing. I get it, he was one of the most hyped/scrutinized athletes of all time (maybe THE most) so obviously protecting your image is important which means going 'robot' mode to the press is mandatory. But it's just weird that he comes across as a robot all the time in all settings....on the court mic'd up, trash talking, even when celebrating it seems scripted etc. If he actually is that meticulous in protecting his image in that everything is planned out, 24/7 all the time, then I'm actually really impressed

    Maybe he'll loosen up after retirement cause I'd like to hear an actual, candid interview at some point where we hear who the 'real' Lebron actually is on one of those 'All the Smoke' podcasts or something imho

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    LeBron is the only guy out of all those mentioned who actually builds his own rosters. GM's have to let him do it or he crs and leaves.
    That’s because his generation has more power, back in the days the white slave owners made sure things like that wouldn’t happen

    You can bet your ass they would have been GM’ing if they could

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    I didn't say it was a bad thing. I get it, he was one of the most hyped/scrutinized athletes of all time (maybe THE most) so obviously protecting your image is important which means going 'robot' mode to the press is mandatory. But it's just weird that he comes across as a robot all the time in all settings....on the court mic'd up, trash talking, even when celebrating it seems scripted etc. If he actually is that meticulous in protecting his image in that everything is planned out, 24/7 all the time, then I'm actually really impressed

    Maybe he'll loosen up after retirement cause I'd like to hear an actual, candid interview at some point where we hear who the 'real' Lebron actually is on one of those 'All the Smoke' podcasts or something imho
    I think Lebron just doesn’t have « it » when it comes to PR’ing, doing pre-game speeches (oh gawd, he really sucks at that lol)

    That’s who he is, dude is a computer, just listen to his post game interviews, he remembers every single play with such detail it’s impressive tbh

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    I've never seen a superstar who seems so unrelatable in my lifetime of watching sports....as in so robotic to the point he doesn't even seem like an actual human being. A-Rod is probably the only one who comes kinda close. Like absolutely nothing Lebron does comes across as genuine...even when he tries to go into " " mode cutting it up at the barbershop, it seems completely scripted and fake. Even on the court, it's like he's half showman/half player. When he goes on a magical run in a big playoff game, he breaks out pre-scripted dances with emotion that just comes across as forced. Not hating, just find it really weird...and it wasn't always this way IMO. It felt different his first go round in Cleveland, and even early on in Miami. But it feels like at some point during his time in Miami, somebody planted a microchip in him and he turned into a robot or something. Even the fact that he's played this long and never gets injured is weird to me.

    Maybe he's just a George Soros plant designed to distract us all from the inevitable Zionist takeover tbh imho
    And you are fine with jordan and kobe?

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    And you are fine with jordan and kobe?

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    Jordan was an egomaniac who had serious gambling and rumored infidelity issues but he had that smile and shoe. I don't love him but respect his game and legacy.

    Kobe had Colorado, was a bad teammate, and was so over-hyped (29th all time PER) as an all time great, but then tragically died so hard to keep the hate

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    i guess i'd put him in the top 10 now
    yeah i guess

    what a clown take

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    You kinda forgot All-Stars Kyrie and Kevin Love... And why use JR as something bad. The guy was at that time one of the best role players in the league, same goes for Thompson. Anyone that thinks that Cleveland team was bad, is pretty stupid.
    in the 2015 finals they lost in 6 in a series where love didnt play at all and kyrie only played 1 game. the next highest scorer for the cavs in the finals was mozgov. JR Smith shot under 30% from 3. and they went 6

    in 2016 when they won, kevin love averaged 8.5 points and 7 rebounds in the finals. JR Smith shot like 35-36% from 3. kyrie was awesome. but lmao these were not super teams by any stretch

    in his first stint with cleveland he took a team to the finals where their 2nd leading scorer in the series was drew gooden. and dont forget that was the same playoff run where he had his legendary game against the pistons scoring 29 of their last 31 points or whatever it was. 25 straight. all as a 22 year old. just insane.
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    Idk. It’s more of a collection of things why LeBron is disliked, even hated.

    The Decision in and of itself is one of the things that turned a lot of people off. It was so disingenuously self-aggrandizing under the guise of “doing it for the kids.” But it’s also having the “Chosen One” tattooed on his back before playing a minute in the NBA. The fact that he’s pretty much lived up to the hype doesn’t absolve him of that pretty egregiously arrogant tattoo. And to play off that, the whole Nike “Witness” campaign when he was just a rookie, as if we were watching the actual second coming of Christ. Unless you were a Cleveland fan, it was pretty obvious why some people hated on him very early on. Then there was a period early on in his career where as a 6’9, 250 pound sculpted Greek god physical specimen that he’d flop and fall down like his legs were made of toothpicks. That’s very hatable. Oh, and of course, “not 1... not 2... not 3... not 4...” but actually, yeah, only just 2.

    LeBron has brought on plenty of critics and haters for more than just him beating their teams and taking away opportunities for fans of other teams to watch their teams win. Honestly, it’s not just him going from team to team and GMing moves in order to win.
    in NBA terms, we pretty much were

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    Jordan was an egomaniac who had serious gambling and rumored infidelity issues but he had that smile and shoe. I don't love him but respect his game and legacy.

    Kobe had Colorado, was a bad teammate, and was so over-hyped (29th all time PER) as an all time great, but then tragically died so hard to keep the hate
    Ah, so by that rationale, if Lebron had died tragically, he would cease to be unrelatable. Is that true?

  21. #146
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    The goat doing goat thangs

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    The goat doing goat thangs
    How much of that $10M will go to children who got cancer from inhaling fumes and other chemicals while making his signature shoes in countries with no labour laws?

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    The goat doing goat thangs

    MJ felt bad about abusing his opponents at the SG position, some of them are make-a-wish kids

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    Ah, so by that rationale, if Lebron had died tragically, he would cease to be unrelatable. Is that true?
    /

    No in LBJ case as he call himself king without a true rationale, likely had a career on PPDs, and refuses to criticize foreign business interests due to $ he would forever remain unrelatable.

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    It’s a fantastic gesture. A really great thing to do. Hopefully, he’s been doing things like that for decades, because he didn’t just all of a sudden become rich recently. And while it’s a ton of money, $10 million to a guy like him is probably the equivalent of something like $10-15k to an average person. Big picture, it’s not a big dent to Mike’s pocketbook. I was more impressed that Mackenzie Scott since her divorce from Besos has donated something around $14 billion, or more than half her worth. Now that’s something.

    And aside from that perspective, the main criticism I would have is that I question when something like this gets highly publicized by the media, as if there’s a question whether he did it for the pure, altruistic philanthropy of doing it, or did he do it for the attention and praise for doing it.



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