Scoot Henderson - 2023 NBA Draft Prospect

[Chinook]

If we are lucky enough to land Wemby, the team will probably improve by 10 - 15 games or so, putting us at about roughly 35 wins, still out of the play in. If we draft anyone else (even Scoot) we probably end up at about 30 wins. Any other team improvement in the way of wins will have to come from trades, new signings or current player improvement. Either way it will still be an improvement over this past year.

A lot is riding on this draft, but we should also look at other sources of improvement as well.

I don't think we should expect Wemby to improve the Spurs much at all right away. Tim Duncan is the rare prospect who comes in and plays like a legit MVP dark horse right away. Wemby very well may not be physically ready for the NBA, and he is very unlikely to be ready to dominate it from a physical perspective. No, he's not likely to be better than Kevin Durant was, and the Sonics/Thunder still have two more years of high draft picks after landing KD. What would add 10 wins is the Spurs shifting to a win-now posture, not resting guys so much and acquiring and playing established talent over middling prospects. I don't expect the team to switch posture by default next year. If they look to be a playoff contender despite not changing posture, I could see them dabbling in some win-now moves. But I think their intention is for this to be one of a short string of top-five picks on their way to reconstructing their roster.

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im gonna lmao when the Spurs end up drafting Scoot with the #2 pick and Mrs Body is inevitably sucking him off once he has a few good games for us like he hasnt been ting on him constantly for the last year or more

Two way street, my man. If and when he becomes exactly what several of us are saying, will you be sucking us off, or at least the guy who replaces him?

[Joseph Kony]

Two way street, my man. If and when he becomes exactly what several of us are saying, will you be sucking us off, or at least the guy who replaces him?

I don't pretend to be some know it all whose opinion means more than anyone elses here, nor have i spent the last year taking a dump on the Ignite and anyone who has played for them, so no I also never proclaimed he would be a star or anything. It's just tiresome constantly reading some who spends endless hours here posting his thoughts about prospects and pretends his some vast repository of knowledge and we should all take his opinions on Scoot or anyone more seriously than the national consensus

The reality is none of you s' opinions hold more weight than anyone elses, nor do any of you truly know wtf you're talking about when it comes to evaluating pre-draft talent to begin with so y'all should quit talking as if any of your opinions about whether a draftee will bust or not mean jack

[Ocotillo]

I don't think we should expect Wemby to improve the Spurs much at all right away. Tim Duncan is the rare prospect who comes in and plays like a legit MVP dark horse right away.

I think those days are over. TD came into this league after 4 years in college. Nowadays, most guys are 19, maybe 20 that are picked top 3 and I don't see teenagers coming in and turning a team around like Tim or DRob were able to. Lebron, KD and Kobe were amazing players their first seasons but they still had a lot of growth ahead of them and adjusting to playing with grown men.

[duncan2150]

IMO He's a way more mature player than the average players of his age, he's a player who needs the ball a lot to be effective and he needs to work on the off ball part of his game ( on D and O).

[jjspur]

I think those days are over. TD came into this league after 4 years in college. Nowadays, most guys are 19, maybe 20 that are picked top 3 and I don't see teenagers coming in and turning a team around like Tim or DRob were able to. Lebron, KD and Kobe were amazing players their first seasons but they still had a lot of growth ahead of them and adjusting to playing with grown men.

Agree Wemby is no TD or DRobb , but unless we do another obvious tank job like this past year, most anyone we draft in the top 7 plus our 2 2nd rounders should help us win even just a few more games. The front office may not care about wins over development, but I don't think spurs owners and investors want another repeat of this year. Remember the sours are also a business.

[rascal]

The Spurs need a floor general pg and if they are drafting second it's going to be Scoot.

[TD 21]

There are really maybe 3-5 superstars in the league at any time, so, no, Fox and Ja aren't. You have to at least make All NBA 1st or 2nd team, and win something, maybe a playoff series or two.

Unassailable superstars: Jokic, Embiid, Antetokounmpo, Doncic

Superstar caliber with health related caveat: Durant, Curry, Davis, James, S bag

Nebulous zone between superstar and star: Butler, Tatum, Lillard, Gilgeous-Alexander, Williamson, Morant

[rascal]

Two way street, my man. If and when he becomes exactly what several of us are saying, will you be sucking us off, or at least the guy who replaces him?

Then who do you take second?

Let's see if that player ends up better than Scoot.

[JPB]

I think those days are over. TD came into this league after 4 years in college. Nowadays, most guys are 19, maybe 20 that are picked top 3 and I don't see teenagers coming in and turning a team around like Tim or DRob were able to. Lebron, KD and Kobe were amazing players their first seasons but they still had a lot of growth ahead of them and adjusting to playing with grown men.

I already posted this in another thread, but Wemby will have played about ahundred pro games vs. adults when he'll enter the NBA. DRob and Tim had none. Forget his age, Wemby will actually have more pro experience than them against tougher compe ion. He ridiculously destroyed G league compe ion last summer and will be ready from day 1...

And I'm not sure everyone realize how good he is, that will probably shock some, but he'll certainly have a better career than DRob and as much, if not more, impact his first year than Drob or even Duncan. He'll easily be a 20/10 player, with a bunch of blocks his first season.

[exstatic]

Then who do you take second?

Let's see if that player ends up better than Scoot.

There’s a very good chance that Cason Wallace ends up a better NBA player than Scoot.

[spurraider21]

I think those days are over. TD came into this league after 4 years in college. Nowadays, most guys are 19, maybe 20 that are picked top 3 and I don't see teenagers coming in and turning a team around like Tim or DRob were able to. Lebron, KD and Kobe were amazing players their first seasons but they still had a lot of growth ahead of them and adjusting to playing with grown men.

kove averaged 7.6ppg on 41.7% shooting as a rookie

[TD 21]

I already posted this in another thread, but Wemby will have played about ahundred pro games vs. adults when he'll enter the NBA. DRob and Tim had none. Forget his age, Wemby will actually have more pro experience than them against tougher compe ion. He ridiculously destroyed G league compe ion last summer and will be ready from day 1...

And I'm not sure everyone realize how good he is, that will probably shock some, but he'll certainly have a better career than DRob and as much, if not more, impact his first year than Drob or even Duncan. He'll easily be a 20/10 player, with a bunch of blocks his first season.

Robinson is a consensus top 25ish player of all time (with a good case to be considered higher).

Wembanyama arguably (James) has the highest ceiling ever for someone his age, but still, the amount that has to go right to definitively have a better career than someone of that caliber is far too much to assume anything.

The odds of him having the immediate impact of Robinson or Duncan are microscopic considering they were significantly older and essentially day one top five players.

[Mr. Body]

There’s a very good chance that Cason Wallace ends up a better NBA player than Scoot.

I would say that he and Keyonte George are pretty similar. Questionable defense, mixed results with scoring, similar size and athleticism...

Not comparing like to like (in terms of league): https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...coot-henderson

[Dejounte]

There sure is a lot of imaginary that people are pulling out of their ass in this thread. Where’s the Willy Wonka meme when I need it. “A very good chance” this, “a very good chance that”. Man, give me a ing break. Some serious fortune telling on here from people who’ve been ridiculously wrong in the past.

[Dejounte]

Oh where to start?

Hit a nerve much on a player you like?

Edgy? Nope, just observant, IMO.

Yes I have stated that I've done next to no film study this year. I think I've said I've only done the most basic of research on them, aside from a couple hours watching the top guys and looking topically at their stats. It's Wembanyama or bust for me because I think it's not even questionable who I want. But...

I've definitely watched highlight tape of the top 5 or 6 guys however. As it relates to Scoot: He is explosively quick. And a fantastic ball handler. And finishes at above average level. But, as the numbers bear out, he's also just average or a tad below at assisting for a guard. And he's below average at shooting the 3, shooting percentage, is turnover prone, and is a below average defender And he's ball dominant, which added together do not make for the kind of player the Spurs should draft.

If you'll recall, I was also pointing out some of these same shortcomings about Primo before it was cool around here and was also probably the first to highlight that Primo could not finish and could not get easy buckets and was increasingly being asked to carry the rock more. Scoot is not Primo. He's far superior in finishing and handling but has enough other red flags in his game as to not be worthy of the 2nd overall pick.

Someone like Bilal? Yes. Have you seen any of his tape and measurable and stats? Compared to Scoot: Better 3. Better defender (more blocks and steals) and rebounder. Same age. More than competent handle. Incredible leaper. Huge wingspan. And plays against better talent.

And more than anything, this kid's game is just starting to explode.

You like bets evidently. I'll be happy to do a bet on who is the better draft pick 2 or 3 yrs down the road.

All in good fun man. It's perfectly OK to have different views on these guys.

Bro, I’m fine with people not in favor of Scoot. The only thing I took issue with is your claim that the people who like Scoot are in some sort of group think when there are a few like me who actually spend time (a lot of time) to watch these guys.

[Mr. Body]

There sure is a lot of imaginary that people are pulling out of their ass in this thread. Where’s the Willy Wonka meme when I need it. “A very good chance” this, “a very good chance that”. Man, give me a ing break. Some serious fortune telling on here from people who’ve been ridiculously wrong in the past.

Exactly! I agree we should slow the hype on Scoot Henderson. You got that right.

[Dejounte]

Exactly! I agree we should slow the hype on Scoot Henderson. You got that right.

Spend your energy making good threads vs having extremely antagonistic views about players’ path choices to the NBA. Right now this is a waste of your energy.

[Dejounte]

I’m confident Scoot will be good but I don’t know if he will be good. Is it really HARD to have the kind of humility to admit that you can dislike a player but not pretend-know how they’ll be in the NBA? Like seriously, man.

[Mr. Body]

I’m confident Scoot will be good but I don’t know if he will be good. Is it really HARD to have the kind of humility to admit that you can dislike a player but not pretend-know how they’ll be in the NBA? Like seriously, man.

You seem to be having a mental breakdown. First you imply anybody who thinks Scoot Henderson may not be Russell Westbrook with incredible decision making a terrific jump shot are delusional and "pulling imaginary ." Then you say you don't know if he'll be good. Who do you think the delusional people are here? If you want to be delusional, lean into it.

Are you having a stroke?

[Dejounte]

LMAAAAAOOOOO This is pure comedy that Body is calling me out for a meltdown. Look at yourself in the mirror and check out the many, many, many rants you have on here. Jesus Christ dude.

[Dejounte]

And I never implied anything close to what you just said. So, nice attempt at gaslighting. You’re bat crazy dude and you spend too much time and energy having a hissy fit on these forums. The sooner you realize it, the better. But maybe this is your way to relieve stress, because you sound like you would be an extremely unhinged individual in person.

[rascal]

There’s a very good chance that Cason Wallace ends up a better NBA player than Scoot.

What's a very good chance? 90%? 75%?

[BacktoBasics]

I already posted this in another thread, but Wemby will have played about ahundred pro games vs. adults when he'll enter the NBA. DRob and Tim had none. Forget his age, Wemby will actually have more pro experience than them against tougher compe ion. He ridiculously destroyed G league compe ion last summer and will be ready from day 1...

And I'm not sure everyone realize how good he is, that will probably shock some, but he'll certainly have a better career than DRob and as much, if not more, impact his first year than Drob or even Duncan. He'll easily be a 20/10 player, with a bunch of blocks his first season.

I wouldn’t put so much emphasis on stats when referencing impact.

Robinson took 26-56 to 56-26.

Obviously there were other trades but that would be the bar for impact.

I do think Wemby very well could take a lotto team to the playoffs. So I’m not completely dismissive of your point.

[mo7888]

There sure is a lot of imaginary that people are pulling out of their ass in this thread. Where’s the Willy Wonka meme when I need it. “A very good chance” this, “a very good chance that”. Man, give me a ing break. Some serious fortune telling on here from people who’ve been ridiculously wrong in the past.

It feels like alot of people are just trolling to kill time waiting on the draft... Scoot is going #2... if he were in any draft 2020 through last years draft he'd have gone #1... (ahead of Paolo, Cunningham, and Edwards)...