The Search for a Second Star

[exstatic]

Anfernee Simons. Trade whatever outside of Sochan and Wemby. That’s your trio. Go win playoff games.

Tiny no defense guard? Nope.

The league is moving towards what is known as jumbo creators, guys 6’7” and above with handles and court vision.

[spursince#99]

Tiny no defense guard? Nope.

The league is moving towards what is known as jumbo creators, guys 6’7” and above with handles and court vision.

Good luck with finding that any time soon.

[Mr. Body]

Good luck with finding that any time soon.

Spurs already have two possibilities on the team already. Actually, three.

[exstatic]

Good luck with finding that any time soon.

We have one already in Sochan, and a couple of mini models in Vassell and Malaki.

[spursince#99]

Spurs already have two possibilities on the team already. Actually, three.

This is homer bias. Neither have the necessary handles or first step to consistently break down a defense.

[Mr. Body]

This is homer bias. Neither have the necessary handles or first step to consistently break down a defense.

Guessing you didn't watch any games. Sochan got into the lane any time he wanted. That's kind of his thing.

And facilitating is not really dribbling into the lane anyway. The point of a big facilitator is seeing over the defense. Mamu and Wembanyama already do this, too.

[exstatic]

This is homer bias. Neither have the necessary handles or first step to consistently break down a defense.

Chris Paul hasn’t had burst in a decade. Kyle Anderson has never had it, and yet neither has a problem getting where they want to go. You don’t have to have burst, you have to have a difference in speed. Kyle Anderson has made a living out of slowing players down to his speed, and then taking one of those giant giraffe sized strides to get past them. A really good change of pace move/dribble is as effective as elite burst.

[kht]

Anfernee Simons. Trade whatever outside of Sochan and Wemby. That’s your trio. Go win playoff games.

that would be a lateral move if you include vassell/kj...

its gotta be our rookies last week (minus sochan) and future picks

[spursince#99]

that would be a lateral move if you include vassell/kj...

its gotta be our rookies last week (minus sochan) and future picks

You are severely underrating just how good he is, while simultaneously overrating Keldon and Vassell.

[CorrectCrusader]

Like, you could teleport Isiah Thomas onto this team from 1989 and most of SpursTalk would be like, NOPE, HE'S 6'1" and SHOOTS UNDEr 30% FROM DEEP.

Surprisingly the league has changed since 1989

[Mr. Body]

Surprisingly the league has changed since 1989

Wait... you think Isiah Thomas wouldn't be great in 2023? Oh Lord.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wait... you think Isiah Thomas wouldn't be great in 2023? Oh Lord.

Where did I say that lol

[BacktoBasics]

This is homer bias. Neither have the necessary handles or first step to consistently break down a defense.

With DDR gone we have a team predominantly built on ball movement and team ball. Not to say iso breakdowns aren’t important but I’ll take high level ball movement and team oriented play that stat padding iso guys any day.

[KobesAchilles]

I think for our team we have a lot of holes filled except a second star

I think Vassell is a solid 3rd option. I think Tre is a very good back up PG. Wemby is obviously our one. Sochan is our elite defender that is switchable. KJ is a solid option as a 6th man. And we will eventually fill out our bench with vets who know how to win.

Dejounte is right though. We need a 2 guy. And anyone bringing up 14 is wrong for the simple fact that the big 3 (although not in their prime) were all battle tested to the extreme. They as a core had won 3 rings and been to 4 finals before 2014. You can’t fake that kinda experience. And nobody on our team is as smart as Manu, Tim, and Tony, nor as experienced.

Our team as constructed maybe makes the 6th-8th seed and that gets us one round in the playoffs. That’s not a bad thing but they aren’t going to magically transform and get deep postseason play without adding to this roster talent. A seasoned vet would be nice. I’m hoping we get PG13. I don’t care about the money bc we have it. But we have picks, we have cap space, we have young talent and our franchise guy. PG13 maybe never won a ring but he’s been to 3 CFs and is battle tested.

[Extra Stout]

What’s the point of getting PG13 if he’s injured all the time

[Ariel]

@ calling Shaq a "second fiddle" & putting him in the same level of a Paul Pierce and Scottie Pippen. Salinas, you done lost your friggin' mind. Dude is arguably the most physically dominant center to ever play the game. How many MVP's did Pippen or Pierce ever win? Shaq won 3 consecutive Finals MVP's and was practically unstoppable. But go on..

Yeah, if anything Kobe was second fiddle, Shaq was a beastly no. 1 even going back to his Orlando years.

[Ariel]

What’s the point of getting PG13 if he’s injured all the time

PG13 is the answer...
to the question: "how do we burn our assets as quick as possible and screw our future at the same time?"

[Ariel]

Anfernee Simons. Trade whatever outside of Sochan and Wemby. That’s your trio. Go win playoff games.

Portland probably already is thinking about moving him (can't have Lillard, Simons and Scoot on your roster, even 2 of them might be a stretch), you wouldn't have to pay all that much to get him (no way do I give up a core piece for him, for sure not Vassell and Keldon, and not a high pick). His contract is bad (26M a year on average for 3 years) and he's an undersized combo guard with bad defense, hardly the backbone of a contender.

[Joseph Kony]

Wait... you think Isiah Thomas wouldn't be great in 2023? Oh Lord.

ing clown always twisting peoples words what an idiot

[Dejounte]

I think a few things are clear:

-The Spurs are not going to have a losing season with Wemby on board, so relying on future drafts with their own picks to find the second guy is unlikely
-They are hitching their wagon on the current group of young guys. The young core might be here for a long time. I think the Spurs will want to show Wemby how different they are from the rest of the NBA, and keeping continuity or big parts of their roster intact is the “Spurs way” vs other teams where they’re constantly shifting things around. Wemby loves the Spurs for a reason, and it isn’t only because they won championships. Anyone who is a fan of the Spurs know the Spurs are the Spurs because of the unique things they do.


Tbh, the bar isn’t high anymore for a second guy to rise up. Jamal Murray isn’t a spectacular player compared to big time second fiddles like Shaq, Pippen, Paul Pierce. Who was second fiddle to Butler? Jalen Brown is about to be an overpaid player because he’s overrated. Anthony Davis is probably the only “second” star that qualifies as one who is better than or equal to the primary star on the Lakers (LeBron).

and finding the second star doesn’t always have to be through a top 5 pick in the lottery. There are a lot more ways a second star can be found, and most oftentimes, they can be homegrown. It’s not out of the question yet for most guys on the current roster. Someone may rise up and surprise us. Or it could be a guy we draft with the 20th pick in coming years.

There’s always an option of signing or trading for an established player, similar to what they did to get Aldridge. I’m sort of not a fan of this route because of what we could potentially give up and the chance they might bring their own ego to the team that the team wouldn’t be able to control. I think this path is more suited to when we have our 1 and 2 already.

Wow what is OP doing here trying to spark a conversation and providing his opinions on different matters? Travesty