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Tbh, Brian Wrong master plan is coming together.
Minnesota crumbles in a couple of years due to Gobert's age and their cap situation, Ant asks out and those two picks put us in the best position to get him.
Or at least Naz Reid...I guess...
I would have been more happy with this trade if we got Minnesota's 27th pick this year also.
Don't think they own their own first round pick until 2028 after this draft.
Think they are really banking on maybe Edwards wanting out of Minny by that time.
KAT will be 35 at that time and Gobert will be 39 if they are even still there.
Tbh, Brian Wrong master plan is coming together.
Minnesota crumbles in a couple of years due to Gobert's age and their cap situation, Ant asks out and those two picks put us in the best position to get him.
Or at least Naz Reid...I guess...
*takes balls for a GM to trade 8 for a pick 6-7 years down the road. This to me is a strong signal that the GM is making decisions in the best interest of the team versus worrying about his job
*Wemby will be 26 or 27 when these picks come up. Prime of his career.
*Minny is not a destination city. Good chance that team is crap by then.
*Im sure this has been discussed elsewhere. Kentucky had the 4th and 8th picks coming off their bench last year and still got bounced in the first round by Oakland. Now we think Dilly is the second coming?
*This very easily could be a massively uneven trade in our favor.
I'm high on this trade. I understand as fans, leading up to two lottery picks, you read, watch, listen to other people's opinion. You grow to like the idea of these players. Truth is, look back early, we didn't like any of these guys.
It is not soo much that #8 was Dilly, I think its the better upshot with other players still available like Williams, Carter, Buzelis. But I also agree they are not that exciting picks for lottery level salary.
My issue was just that they could have gotten more from trading out myself personally. Lets see how the rest of the off-season pans out.
Also on trade night, Raptors call and say we can have 8 for Poeltl. Twolves and offer that deal, you so take wolves deal.
Wake me up from this ing nightmare
It won't actually, two words "second apron"
I haven't done a scientific analysis on the Time Value of Picks, but absolutely the value diminishes over time, and quite rapidly, honestly. For example, a Top-5 protected FRP a year later was only worth the difference between #3 and #5 in 2018 (See: Doncic-Trae trade). The number 11 pick in 2022 was worth multiple protected FRPs (Osmaine Dienge trade).
Even with the 2031 pick being unprotected, this is atrocious value back for the Spurs. If this were 8 for 27 + the 2030 swap + 2031 FRP, I think it would still be poor value for the Spurs. I'd equate a 2031 FRP, especially once that can be reasonable projected to not be a lotto pick (based on best available information), to late 20s pick in this draft.
We know the value of a 2030 swap, since we already have one. It's worth taking on Reggie Bullock in a salary dump.
The more I analyze this trade, the worse it looks on value. If it ends up being the #1 pick in 2031 it will look like a genius move, but that is confusing process for outcomes (something Brian Wright himself cautioned against in his pre-draft comments). The analytical process that lead to this trade is a complete fail, even if the outcome works out.
This was a good trade
I would take the Raptors offer, in that case.
The 2030 swap doesn't add much value here. We saw last offseason what a 2030 swap is worth: a salary dump of Reggie Bullock.
We traded an FRP in 2024 for one in 2031. Let's ignore the fact that 2024 was #8 and 2031 projects higher just on odds alone, and say that the picks are equal.
This is like being offered $100 right now or $100 7 years from now. You take the $100 today every time. Maybe the Spurs don't understand the time value of money and that is the problem.
Since it is a swap it is not something you could give up in a trade. It would be giving up the spurs pick in which case the team would get the best of ours mavs and wolves pick. Wolves pick in swap is also protected. We can just give some other team to swap with the wolves.
Great trade. When was the last time a team won with a 6' PG?
I feel sick. Welp, I'll take a 2031 pick over Salaun I guess.
It makes no sense to make a move for a Paul Gerge or a Jimmy Butler. They are old and the Spurs are nowhere close to contention. The only moves that would make sense would be for you star-ish players such as Markkanen and Cunningham. Please no Garland or Young.
Just had to log back in to comment on this atrocity.
This is all-time bad. I don’t believe the defenders, you all are coping so hard.
Sure it was a weak draft but if their best offer is 2 picks 7 years away, you say no.
A team in desperate need of shooting gets a guy who could be averaging 15ppg out the gate, and immediately trades him to a conference opponent for picks that are essentially useless right now.
Don’t fool yourselves, this isn’t gathering assets for a trade. I’d love to eat my words but this isn’t a grand plan to get trae, it might however help send Wemby to LA
Point Castle seems to be the route we'll try to take.
Until (and if) it fails, I don't want to waste assets on any guards.
Needs to be all about wing shooters.
Blow the load on Markkanen, tbh.
But then again, Utah has 15 FRPs up until 2030 and we got no useful players to offer.
Just get a few wings like Cam Johnson so the team is functional and Castle/Wemby can develop.
We literally traded #8 for nothing to show for the next 6 years.
This is like loaning 500 K to someone and getting paid back in 6 years with minimal to no interest.
to play devils advocate, we have no clue what the 2031 draft looks like. But we know 2024 is historically weak. Odds are it wouldn’t get much worse than this one.
devils advocate over
problem is that wolves pick may end up in the mid or late 20s for all we know. I’ll take #8 now over the randomness of that. Especially on a team devoid of talent.
i also have no clue what happens now with the mavs swap in 2030. Should have swapped a different year at the very least
My biggest problems with the trade are returning value, and getting a guard in early that can grow with Wemby and build that TP/TD chemistry
To those saying these picks are to be used for a trade.... If those picks are so valuable, why would a playoff team like Minnesota use them to draft a prospect and not use them in a trade for a player who can contribute now when they are trying to win?
Ok then draft somebody you believe in like Devin Carter, Cody Williams, etc.
He'll be here as long as Pop is. That's his guy. They sit around, drink wine, and about Trump 24-7. He's got job security as long as the senile old F is around.
The only thing Wright has proven he can do is tear down a roster and get assets like Hinkie did. Once we landed wemby we were supposed to move on from that stage.
ok, you spend last offseason waiting and seeing and stacking some more future assets… fine. You declined to trade back up into the first? Fine. You punted your good second rounder for crap future second rounders and then use a late second rounder on a guy who isn’t two-way eligible… urgh… fine
but come the on. It’s time to nut up and actually build a team. Continually punting picks because you’re too scared you might get one wrong tells me you aren’t qualified to be a gm
Not gonna pretend etc. etc. but yupp, it looks like Brian Wright fking sucks. I wouldn't be surprised if he was even tempted to not take Wemby. Fking idiot.
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