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Not that DJ is a better player. That and value are two different things. He makes half the money, and is under team control twice as long. He’s better than 50% of the player that Trae is, probably 80-85%, so there’s the value disparity.
No way Dejounte holds more trade value than Trae, I don't believe that for a second. Hawks could have easily pried Reaves and a first from the Lakers last year for Young.
Not that DJ is a better player. That and value are two different things. He makes half the money, and is under team control twice as long. He’s better than 50% of the player that Trae is, probably 80-85%, so there’s the value disparity.
I’d offer the Bulls pick, the most favorable pick in 2027 and 2030 and the 2031 T-Wolves pick for Lauri right now.
Any word on if Dejounte waived his trade kicker?
Or because the trade might happen during the 23-24 league year does it not kick in until July 1?
Listening to some annoying ass Twitter Live, and Tynan says he doesn't think the Spurs are in the Young conversation.
Side note, whoever is hosting this Twitter Spaces (or whatever the its called) is the most annoying "host" I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. K-Dot the Chemist. If you read this message board, you are horrible and need to learn how to shut the up while your "guests" are talking.
Trae Young is good and a net positive with the right team around him. Offensively not too much to argue about. Defensively, well.. there’s the problem.
No guards on the Spurs play defense, either. Might as well have someone who can score points while they're busy not defending.
Nobody probably wanted Dillingham on this team more than I did, so reading this thread I've had to ask myself if I am still opposed to trading for Trae Young... The answer is yes. The situations are barely equivalent, despite whatever parallels you want to draw between them as players. Personally I think the similarities don't extend much further than their size and defensive impact, but it's not really the point. The most obvious and glaring difference is the cost -- getting Trae is putting a huge portion of your eggs in the shrimpy guard basket, with a much more challenging path to building a real team once he'd be here. And besides, I mostly agree with Mr. Body and others who say Trae sucks. He is painful to watch sometimes. Of the two, I would rather have Garland, but if the Spurs rejected Dillingham I hope it's due to a general move towards putting size and defensive skill at every position and that they aren't looking to compromise that.
My faith in the Spurs' ability to build through the draft has wavered a bit, but they aren't going to punt every year and they are bound to stumble upon a few more ideal pieces with all the picks they have coming up, or to find a better player in trade. Stay the course, build a true juggernaut.
Pay him no mind. Just know, if you’re on the opposite side of one of his takes - you’re probably on the right side of that debate.
please no Trae Young
DJM posted those eyeball emojis on his media a few days ago just like when SA traded him. In fact on the same date of that Spurs trade.
Turns out he had good info again.
Wonder what the Hawks' next moves are. Hoping to see them trade more rotation players out for picks. They get worse here but there's a large drop off between 9/10 and the rest of the teams in the East. Can't see this improving the owed pick to the Spurs by much especially with the Nets leaning into the tank and Bulls ready to blow it up.
Want to see them embrace a rebuild around Trae or even trade him... as long as it's not to the Spurs. Not sure if I oppose a Trae/Wemby pairing as I think the offense is there to outweigh Trae's defensive liabilities but it would be far better for the Hawks to trade Trae and the Spurs retain their pick.
Trae is the new Derozan with the era of mismatch hunting in the playoffs and crack down on foul baiting.
Albeit 5 million Trae posts on here is there any solid intel on how the PATFO value Trae? 25yoa, essentially a 25&10 career guy? Could we absorb him on D in a workable system?If the Spurs trade for Trae Young after drafting Stephon Castle and skipping Dilly, I'm out
Castle is our PG so why fantasize about Trae still? Overall good news, ATL does not improve and seems more oriented towards a rebuild approach.
thank god you aint the gm LM is trash
Would have to know he'd be willing to re-sign first, so Spurs would have to commit to a 5 year $270 million max contract offer. I think that's pretty rich for him even factoring in the 10% annual cap increases from the TV/streaming deal, but that's what he would cost.
No way Spurs ownership pay that -- the final year of LM's contract would include the pay hike Wemby is going to get and Castle's second contract. We'd have no cap space available for anyone else like Vassell, Sochan, etc.
Yeah I'm cooling on Lauri
loved his effort on Finland national team, won me over
But his premium makes him kinda cost prohibitive
Lauri has become slightly overrated the last year or two.
Trade for Trae? "Yeah, I don't know about all that!" Laughs nervously.
I was on team trade for Trae. But a combination of being convinced here and seeing how the team is being built, I am against the trading for Trae.
He's only hit 68 games once in his career, but last season he was close to a 50/40/90 guy (on 8 3PA and 5FTA a game, mind you). 23PPG, 8REB, about half of his FGA were 3's. If his cost was more reasonable, he'd be literally the perfect fit next to Wemby - a guy who can rebound, defend, make strong moves off the ball and actually nail the out of 3s. I heard rumblings here that Utah tanked and put him away early, but at face his games played per season seems low and inconsistent. He'd be perfect here, but only if he wants to be second banana and take a big paycut. I don't see it happening at all.
It isn't a great return for Murray which is good news for Spurs.
Young has publicly put some pressure on Hawks FO. If Hawks don't get better, he might ask to be traded. With that in mind, Hawks have mostly two options:
- Use these picks to do another trade to improve their team.
- Trade Young and rebuild around Jalen Johnson and Risacher. They can't do that without their picks back, Spurs will have to be involved directly or indirectly in a Young trade.
After having draft Castle, I don't see Spurs going after Trae young. Question is what team is interested in Young and what they might offer to Spurs to give Hawks their picks back?
Hawks not done yet, they gonna use those assets to bring a win now player who is better fit next to Young than DJM
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