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    How dare customers have this sense of en lement, wanting to know about the products they financially sustain!
    The product's unveiling is somewhere within a four month window.

    Enjoy.

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    Man, looking over the hire dates of NBA coaches -- you guys may want to take it easy.
    IMO, they need to have someone in place, b y at least 1-2 weeks before the draft.

    Just my opinion.

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    IMO, they need to have someone in place, b y at least 1-2 weeks before the draft.

    Just my opinion.
    Oh I think the sooner the better given the good names available. I'm just saying the expectation to be informed about a choice yesterday might be a little unrealistic.

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    wtf I just logged in today after a long week end and that...

    Thank you spurstalk tbh... unbelievable that the news has not been reported on traditional sport media. Hopefully Pop will recover quickly of this second alert.

    As for the future, I'm sure Spurs will manage it respectfully. Pop is a legend and should be treated as one.

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    any sports organization faced with this situation have plan A (Pop comes back) and start with plan B (Pop doesn't come back) as soon as the stroke happened, he could die the next day. To think they haven't started with plan B and are "waiting for Pop's decision" is asinine. Knowing the Spurs this is being executed by a small group in a total media blackout, at a minimum the all candidates have had virtual interviews but most likely the decision has been made, and the announcement will happen on a Friday night at the last moment possible when nobody is paying attention that Pop is being replaced by new head coach X. What is not asinine is to think coach X will be the wrong decision.

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    any sports organization faced with this situation have plan A (Pop comes back) and start with plan B (Pop doesn't come back) as soon as the stroke happened, he could die the next day. To think they haven't started with plan B and are "waiting for Pop's decision" is asinine. Knowing the Spurs this is being executed by a small group in a total media blackout, at a minimum the all candidates have had virtual interviews but most likely the decision has been made, and the announcement will happen on a Friday night at the last moment possible when nobody is paying attention that Pop is being replaced by new head coach X. What is not asinine is to think coach X will be the wrong decision.
    I think this is the reason the Spurs haven't had a customary end of season press conference. They don't want to be pressed on answering questions about this situation before they are ready, they'll likely working pretty diligently on hammering out the path forward behind the scenes.

    Whether or not the make the right move is yet to be seen, as you allude to!

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    Turns out the Mavericks are the second stupidest NBA franchise in Texas.

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    Turns out the Mavericks are the second stupidest NBA franchise in Texas.
    That’s not even remotely true. Sending Pop out to lead the Hype Squad cheerleaders would be less stupid than trading Luka.

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    I think this is the reason the Spurs haven't had a customary end of season press conference.
    Did they do one last season? All I've been able to find so far are Brian Wright pressers during the draft.
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    Did they do one last season? They don't want to be pressed on answering questions about this situation before they are ready, they'll likely working pretty diligently on hammering out the path forward behind the scenes.


    All I've been able to find so far are Brian Wright pressers during the draft.
    They've been kind of sporadic, so I honestly don't know what is "customary" for the Spurs. For example, Wright did some (or maybe just one?) at the trade deadline in the past but didn't do one after we acquired Fox that I can recall (I remember the one where him getting a call from an agent that showed up on his Apple Watch caused some speculation).

    I kind of get a general vibe that they just want to control the media narrative via their media contacts these days as opposed to an open press conference where they can't predict what questions they'll get. Maybe it's something Wright just hates doing and appreciated that Pop would largely do this for him since the Head Coach has regular media availability and Pop was also the POBO? Or maybe now that there are more faces in the media room that they don't have as close relationships with gives them pause? Who knows.

    I think their general approach to the media and sharing of info has been kind of weird as of late (even by their standards), but it's not a huge deal at the end of the day.

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    That’s not even remotely true. Sending Pop out to lead the Hype Squad cheerleaders would be less stupid than trading Luka.
    Agree to disagree. Nothing is more stupid than holding up yet another year of a generational talent while you pass up good coaching candidates for a septuagenarian with serious health issues.

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    it's impossible to say any candidate has been passed up until that candidate is hired by some other team. Since there are like four-ish good candidates, I guess I'll start panicking when 2 are off the board.

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    There could also be some additional, unexpected, candidates still to come. I'm sure no one would have predicted Jenkins or Malone to be available... who knows who else will become available as the playoffs play out.

    I'm hoping the Spurs have taken the route that would be the most logical approach just looking at the cir stances: they've made the decision to move on, Pop is aware of this decision (may have even been part of it), they are having back channel communications with the candidates they like (perhaps even "secret" interviews) but they're not going to say anything until they can announce a complete and comprehensive plan. My speculation would be that they don't want the circus of announcing Pop not returning and a HC search and have to deal with media questions, speculation, etc. They want to do this all behind close doors and just unveil the outcome. This is consistent with how they have generally approached most things as of late: out of the public eye.

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    As long as there are names on the board, waiting and speculating is all anyone can do. I agree it would be out of character and also fairly stupid for the Spurs to broadcast their plans and actions when all that could really be happening at this point are interviews with one or more candidates, if it's even gotten that far. It would be very surprising for the Spurs to have narrowed everything down to one person given all the options. Conversely, I'm not completely convinced they could lock up every potential coach they have in mind while a Denver job just sits in limbo as well, for example.
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    This is a bit of a tangent, but relevant to the Spurs approach with the media...

    They are in a bit of an interesting position right now, trying to get public funding for a new arena (a proposition which appears to be losing public support). Strategically, I don't think being secretive or aloof with the plans for the team (in general, not just related to Pop) is necessarily the best way to go about things. This is a pretty pivotal summer for the Spurs with potentially a new coach, (hopefully) the last Top 10 picks for the foreseeable future, potentially their first ever modern max contract extension, and a looming public vote for a new arena. It's interesting to see their public facing approach given all of that happening... landing Cooper Flagg would be a huge boost for them if we get so lucky.

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    I‘m totally expecting to see Pop being pushed around by Mitch on the sidelines in a wheelchair next season

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    If they don't get public funding for an arena, they'll just leave for some city that will give it to them -- that will be a pretty open declaration from them at least. Plenty of media access to that and PATFO won't have to be involved in any of it.

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    This is a bit of a tangent, but relevant to the Spurs approach with the media...

    They are in a bit of an interesting position right now, trying to get public funding for a new arena (a proposition which appears to be losing public support). Strategically, I don't think being secretive or aloof with the plans for the team (in general, not just related to Pop) is necessarily the best way to go about things. This is a pretty pivotal summer for the Spurs with potentially a new coach, (hopefully) the last Top 10 picks for the foreseeable future, potentially their first ever modern max contract extension, and a looming public vote for a new arena. It's interesting to see their public facing approach given all of that happening... landing Cooper Flagg would be a huge boost for them if we get so lucky.
    Not so quick. Spurs have the 2030 Dallas and 2031 Sacramento unprotected swaps, along with a 2030 top 1 protected swap from Minnesota. Gotta think one of those will be top 10 after the way the Mavs have wrecked their roster and traded all their picks away and well Sac just being Sac. Wouldn't surprise me to see the 26 or 27 ATL become a top 10 either after they were morons and fired a GM who did an amazing job salvaging Murray into something useful.

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    Sounds like SS&E are perhaps the ones who have a sense of en lement.

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    If they don't get public funding for an arena, they'll just leave for some city that will give it to them -- that will be a pretty open declaration from them at least. Plenty of media access to that and PATFO won't have to be involved in any of it.
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    Sounds like SS&E are perhaps the ones who have a sense of en lement.
    I think all major league sports owners do for the most part. As long as the municipalities keep paying up, why would they not feel this?

    I haven't seen much of anything about public sentiment against Project Marvel and my gut feeling is it passes fairly easily. This isn't Austin we're talking about and if they can soak the tourists for the money again I figure most San Antonians would conclude why not?

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    I think all major league sports owners do for the most part. As long as the municipalities keep paying up, why would they not feel this?

    I haven't seen much of anything about public sentiment against Project Marvel and my gut feeling is it passes fairly easily. This isn't Austin we're talking about and if they can soak the tourists for the money again I figure most San Antonians would conclude why not?
    I'm too far removed from San Antonio these days to have any kind of feel on public support, so I just have to go by what I read... but apparently the project is polling underwater and trending the wrong direction: https://sanantonioreport.org/latest-...roject-marvel/

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    Apparently one of the concerns that people have is around transparency. Recall, that Spurs had the city sign NDAs and do much of the initial planning in secret. This is consistent with the Spurs MO, but at least when it comes to a massive, publicly funded project - I think this rubs people the wrong way, especially in light of the current political environment.

    If the Spurs want Project Marvel to pass, my outsider view is that they're taking the wrong approach... but I'm just a random text bot on the internet, for all intents and purposes.

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    Wait until the PR campaign starts and likely will be no organized opposition. The numbers will reverse. San Antonians will never risk losing the Spurs.

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    Thanks for the link. Yeah the early cloak and dagger stuff was just unnecessary and paternalistic but that's the way governments are these days. We'll see how the public gets sold on this since the alternative seems to be a bunch of slag heaps around Hemisfair Tower.

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