The Truth About Nazr

[E20]

Nazr shoots 80% from the line while Malik shoots 71% from the line in the 2005-2006 season.

[Melmart1]

Nazrs stats STARTING against Det as a Spur: 5pts 6reb

Rashos stats STARTING against Det as a Spur: 2.5pts 2rebs

If the Spurs made decisions based on stats alone, then Bruce Bowen would not be on this team.

Stats do not lie, but they are deceptive. THEY DO NOT TELL THE WHOLE STORY. If there were a stat for number of pump fakes that led to turnovers or botched defensive assignments, then maybe we could have a stat-only argument. But since there is no such thing, we must talk of things other than numbers, such as defensive prowess and rotations. Rasho trumps Nazr in both, EASILY. And doesn't defense win championships?

[leemajors]

they actually didnt because we WON...YEA!

they did, we barely won. do you not remember games 3-7 where ben wallace was all over nazr's pump fakes?

[TDMGTP]

yea I do...so whats your point WE STILL WON, barely or whatever, this year we are 0-2 with rasho starting vs detroit during the playoffs we were 4-3 w/ nazr ANSWER THIS IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS WHICH RECORD WOULD YOU TAKE???. He gave us enough to win. Now do you remember what he did before that?...you can see the first page of the thread.

Thanks for pointing games 3-7 out...next time tell me something I didnt know k.

[MrChug]

It seems to be almost sacrelige, but Pop is bombing on this decision. Did he start Fin one or even TWO too many games? Yes. But Rasho is NOT making his time work. Should Pop feel some affinity for Rasho because he speaks fluent Serbian? NONONONONO! So his stubbornness and his ego are keeping Rasho in the starting lineup. Is Nazr truly is a difference maker? Not really, but next Nestairballovic he looks like Hakeem ing Olajuwan!!!

[leemajors]

we were 0-2 vs detroit last year, one of those games nazr started. you need to simmer down. answering questions has nothing to do with balls. if nazr had started both of those games, we still would have lost. nazr alone is not gonna plug the . he is not the magic answer to our problems vs. detroit, so shut your pie hole already.

[TDMGTP]

yea and he produced more that 2pts 4rebs...okay he is 4-4 as a starter vs pistons.

[TDMGTP]

shut your pie hole already...good one.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

we were 0-2 vs detroit last year, one of those games nazr started.

Hmm, I could be wrong, but the only time it mattered he came out ahead 4-3...

[Dre_7]

0-2 against Det last year??

I thought it was 1-1 (In the loss, Timmy got hurt).

[MrChug]

God I hate Rasho Nesterovic...I really do. I wanted to like this guy but .

[hussker]

Hmm, I could be wrong, but the only time it mattered he came out ahead 4-3...

WHOOP!

[leemajors]

you like nazr's defensive performance tonight? letting gasol dunk twice in a row to take the lead at the half? with rasho and duncan on the bench the grizz erase a 9 point lead quickly.

[Dre_7]

I like his D overall tonight. What can SA's bigs do about the foul trouble. Other than that, Nazr has been playing great tonight.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

you like nazr's defensive performance tonight? letting gasol dunk twice in a row to take the lead at the half?

Nazr's having to pick up the slack for the whole team on defense.

Don't see you ing about Duncan letting Gasol dunk it twice, including the first play of the game.

Little bit hypocritical, don't you think?

[TDMGTP]

nazr and rasho both suck, but rasho is better as sucking.

[leemajors]

not really. duncan wasn't in the game, so the defense sucked anyway. but nazr left gasol twice and he dunked twice in a row. it looked like nazr thought they were switching, and left gasol. you can't sit there and say nazr looked even passable on d tonight. gasol wa scoring on everyone, but nazr's brain farts at the end of the first half were god awful.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody with a lick of sense could defend Nazr's performance tonight. Nazr lost track of his man, didn't rotate, backed off of Gasol and completely failed to get position or box out. A nine point lead quickly turned into a one point defecit with him on the floor.

[TexasAggie2005]

Why stop there? Kerr has five rings, more than Manu and Parker combined, so he's obviously a better player than both.

I'm the one trying to point out that having more rings doesn't mean you're better. Thanks for proving yourself wrong for me.

Look, Nazr played the majority of the minutes at center for the Spurs last year in the playoffs. They won a ring.

Rasho played the majority of minutes the prior year, we lost.

So you're basing your entire argument on the fact that we won in 2005 with Nazr and not in 2004 when Rasho was starting. This might be a valid argument if the rest of the team was exactly the same, the rest of the teams we played were exactly the same, and every cir stance came out exactly the same. Otherwise you're comparing unequal situations. I don't see how you managed to deduce that the single deciding factor was who our starting center was. Maybe we won in 2005 (and not in 2004) because Tony and Manu were playing better. I don't know, call that one a wild-ass guess, but I think they probably had more to do with it than Nazr's 20-30 minutes a game.

And this will probably go over your head given the great KG analogy you sprung on me, but Detroit is a physical team. That style of play (physical) is something Nazr is better at dealing with than Rasho, bar none. It's not even a comparison.

Oooohhh, you called me stupid. Great argument, I'm totally convinced you're right now that you've insulted me properly.

Let me spell it out for you. KG plays on a different team than Nazr played on when he won the le last year. Not surprisingly, Nazr also played on a different team in 2005 than Rasho did in 2004. Obviously KG's team was more different from Nazr's than Nazr's was from Rasho's, but it's an analogy (and obviously a bit of a stretch intended to illustrate how ridiculous your comparison was).

[Obstructed_View]

I'm confused, Aggie. What does Rasho have to do with Hedo Turkoglu's inability to make a wide open jump shot?

[travis2]

Nazr sucks. Last night was no different than any other Nazr horror flick.

Only thing I can figure why some people here are drooling all over this stiff is Malik nostalgia. Same hands, same pump-fakes, same happy feet.

[Obstructed_View]

Nazr sucks. Last night was no different than any other Nazr horror flick.

Only thing I can figure why some people here are drooling all over this stiff is Malik nostalgia. Same hands, same pump-fakes, same happy feet.

Although he was great in the first quarter. If only both centers could become consistent. Wouldn't that be nice?

[E20]

The game against the Grizzlies can't be an assesment. All of our F/C's played like rat crap.

[Rasho Fan 88]

if yall are all sayin nazr is better, how come he is playing such less minutes, yet hes only one turnover down from Rasho. .....Who makes more mistakes? Rasho for president.

[Obstructed_View]

People that quote stats to support or condemn a center on this team need to just plead idiocy and bow out of the conversation. There are no stats for rotating, intimidating a shot or setting screens. Rebounds, blocks and points are gravy in the Spurs' system.