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  1. #126
    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    Truthfully, it's not a rivalry until each team wins a series...

  2. #127
    More Power to Me Despot's Avatar
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    I was kinda hoping sheed would start bringing out the belt again soon. This will probably make him think twice.

  3. #128
    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    I'm gonna take the high road here. As big a Spurs fan as I am, I'll readily admit to anyone that I don't like our chances against the Pistons at all without HCA. So I'll enjoy the Pistons' loss, and the fact that we only need to go three games better than them the rest of the way and let's leave it that, okay?


    We don't need to get into petty fan rivalries here in February, imo. Let's wait until we both make it to the Finals before we act like it's the 00s version of Lakers-Celtics here. I, for one, am not assuming it's gonna be a runaway through the first three rounds of the playoffs. We're not playing well at all right now. Our offense is sluggish as , we can't get a rotation, and nobody on our bench is playing well except for the 12th and 13th men. The Mavs are playing much better than us, at the moment. And the Suns with Amare should be quite a load, now that they actually have a bit of a bench. I don't think it's going to be a 12-0 formality for the Pistons either. Both the Cavs and the Heat should give them a series. So let's wait til June until this becomes an official rivalry, okay?

    I'm gonna take the low road here

    Fuk detroit
    Fu$% it's fans
    Fu$% Kid Rock
    Fu$% Hillary Duff
    Fu$% the hot dog vendors at the palace.
    Fu$% the Steelers
    Fu$% that guy who invented cheese wiz.

    In fact as the great Tom Brady says while riding his segway, "Everyone sucks but me"



    Go Trainwreck Go Trainwreck, It's your birthday, insulted everybody, 'cept Tom Brady.

    Actually, on second thought go to Tom Brady.
    Last edited by Trainwreck2100; 02-08-2006 at 12:25 AM.

  4. #129
    Since 1979 Das Texan's Avatar
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    Yea, the bench was what did it

    Bench stats:
    56 Minutes, 21 points (56% FG), 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals

    The bench was decent. They didn't get a whole lot of touches. Only 12 shots. But that's a problem with the starters. They tend to forget they're on the floor out there at times.

    This was a Chauncey/Sheed loss. Both played ty. IMO, We need to say screw HCA and just worry about staying healthy and developing the bench. The starters look "out of it" right now. And it's tough to beat teams when your biggest strength is negated like that.

    Watch out for a trade. I can almost guarantee you're going to see Dumars deal Darko and Arroyo for a good backup PG and maybe a pick or something.

    so basically you rip me on my comments.

    then you confirm them in the same post.

    how awesome!

    look bottom line, the pistons are wearing out their starters, which is going to come back and bite their asses when the playoffs roll around.

    bad for them. good for us.

    buy a bench. or develop one. similar concept. same result.

  5. #130
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    look bottom line, the pistons are wearing out their starters, which is going to come back and bite their asses when the playoffs roll around.

    bad for them. good for us.

    buy a bench. or develop one. similar concept. same result.


    Rip Hamilton 37.2 mpg, played all 47 games
    Ben Wallace 36.5 mpg, played all 47 games
    Chauncey Billups 36.3 mpg, played all 47 games
    Tayshaun Prince 36.0 mpg, played all 47 games
    Rasheed Wallace 35.5 mpg, played all 47 games

    Tim Duncan 35.7 mpg, played all 47 games
    Tony Parker 34.8 mpg, played all 47 games
    Bruce Bowen 34.0 mpg, played all 47 games

    Dirk Nowitzki 37.8 mpg, played in all 48 games
    Shawn Marion 41.7 mpg, played in all 48 games
    Raja Bell 38.0 mpg, played in 47 of 48 games
    Steve Nash 37.1 mpg, played in all 48 games
    Richard Jefferson 39.3 mpg, played in 43 of 46 games
    Jason Kidd 37.4 mpg, played in all 46 games
    Vince Carter 36.9 mpg, played in 44 of 46 games
    Dwyane Wade 39.0 mpg, played in 47 of 49 games
    Pau Gasol 39.6 mpg, played in all 46 games


    If the Pistons starters are worn down in the playoffs, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Bruce Bowen will be worn down in the playoffs. The majority of the "star" players on top playoff teams will be worn out. Seriously, stop talking about how the Pistons starters are going to be more fatigued than any other star players on other NBA teams. It's such an overused and unjustifiable argument.

    Having five guys play about the same long minutes does not make them more fatigued than one guy who plays just as many minutes or more on another team simply because there are five of them. In fact, if a player logs 35-40 mpg and is the only one on his team that plays that much, he probably is double and triple teamed a lot, gets hacked more, and has to deal with the pressures of being the #1 guy more, which would make that player even more fatigued as opposed to five guys who share the burdens and responsibilities at both ends fairly equally. Having five guys play those minutes means the burden is spread out more among them.

    If the Pistons starters are playing too many minutes, then almost every top team has at least two or three players that are playing way too many minutes. Look at the Nets. Kidd, Carter and Jefferson have to do EVERYTHING for that team at both ends of the floor. Both Kidd and Jefferson play more minutes than any Pistons starter. Why don't we hear much about how Kidd, Jefferson, and Carter are going to break down? Same with Marion, Nash, and Bell.

    The argument is tired. It is foolish. It is reaching. It simply carries very little merit. Will the Pistons starters be fatigued at some point in the regular season and maybe even in the playoffs? Sure, probably, but not more than any other NBA starter who log just about as many minutes, and many times even more minutes. Revelation ... NBA starters get tired at some point in the regular season. Who knew?

    Stop with the "Pistons starters' fatigue" argument already.

  6. #131
    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Okay Jam. Add those extra few minutes, times 82, and see what number you get.

    Makes a difference.

  7. #132
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    Pistons this season:

    http://www.nba.com/pistons/stats/

    ... are playing effectively same MPG as last season:

    http://www.nba.com/pistons/stats/2004/index.html

    The Pistons didn't look exhausted in the Finals last June.
    Don't count on them being exhausted next June.

  8. #133
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    I'm gonna take the low road here

    Fuk detroit
    Fu$% it's fans
    Fu$% Kid Rock
    Fu$% Hillary Duff
    Fu$% the hot dog vendors at the palace.
    Fu$% the Steelers
    Fu$% that guy who invented cheese wiz.

    In fact as the great Tom Brady says while riding his segway, "Everyone sucks but me"



    Go Trainwreck Go Trainwreck, It's your birthday, insulted everybody, 'cept Tom Brady.

    Actually, on second thought go to Tom Brady.



  9. #134
    Snow falling off bamboo bdubya's Avatar
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    Okay Jam. Add those extra few minutes, times 82, and see what number you get.

    Makes a difference.
    Let's see...the spread between the average of the Spurs listed and the Pistons is about a minute and a half, or 123 minutes, or maybe 5 extra minutes each week.

    OH MY GOD THEY'RE GONNA DIE OUT THERE!!!!!

  10. #135
    Hey Bruce... Lebron is the Rock Sec24Row7's Avatar
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    They beat us twice convincingly.

    I'm not going to talk any trash about the pistons like some Phil Jackson wannabe.

    They have a great team, and whoever wins the finals this year is going to have earned it.

  11. #136
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Okay Jam. Add those extra few minutes, times 82, and see what number you get.

    Makes a difference.

    Okay Brutalis. And, as such, I guess Rasheed Wallace (35.5 mpg) will be much fresher than Tim Duncan (35.7 mpg) come the playoffs. Well, that's good, since Tim Duncan is the player the Pistons must worry about most.

  12. #137
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    Pistons lost to the Hawks
    How easily the bandwaggoners forget....

    Saturday December 10, 2005

    Atlanta 94
    San Antonio 84



  13. #138
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Okay Jam. Add those extra few minutes, times 82, and see what number you get.

    Makes a difference.

    (Chauncey Billups' minutes (36.3) - Tony Parker's minutes (34.8)) x 82 = 123 minutes

    So, over a SIX MONTH PERIOD, Chauncey will have played about 120 more minutes (2 hours) than Tony Parker, or approximately the length of a major motion pictures ... OVER A SIX MONTH PERIOD.


    Tayshaun Prince will have played about 160 more minutes than Bruce Bowen, approximately 4 and a half NBA games worth for a regular starter who plays about 35 minutes per game. Tayshaun Prince is NINE YEARS younger than Bruce Bowen. Five extra regular seasons games do not seem to be completely unreasonable. And, with more playing time for Delfino and Evans, Tayshaun's average minutes will start to decrease.


    Rasheed will have played 16 fewer minutes than Tim Duncan over the course of the regular season, even though Rasheed is relatively healthy and Duncan has been hobbled with his plantar fasciitis. Does that make a difference?

    Ben Wallace will have logged many more minutes than either Rasho or Nazr. I don't think that's much of a concern though.

    Manu will have played many fewer games and minutes than Rip Hamilton. I would guess if Manu had been healthy this year, he would be averaging close to 34-35 mpg, even with Michael Finley. But, if Manu can stay healthy, he will probably be fresher than Rip Hamilton in the playoffs ... IF MANU IS HEALTHY. Who knows?


    So, BRUTALIS, how much difference does it really make?

  14. #139
    Veteran himat's Avatar
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    Pistons lost to the Hawks
    come on so did you guys. i hope these losses in the last 5 games get these guys to play there best, and not to come into games overconfident.

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  16. #141
    Manure Ginobili Mixability's Avatar
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    come on so did you guys. i hope these losses in the last 5 games get these guys to play there best, and not to come into games overconfident.
    I hereby apologize for our rare moron fans....

  17. #142
    In Manu we STILL trust! rayray2k8's Avatar
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    I think this thread should be killed already

  18. #143
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Bah, Pistons have their trolls as well.

    No need for apologies.

    I cant say it enough...

    Thank GOD the 70 win crap is over.

    Back to your regular scheduled programming...

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