i predict a mind altering event in your future.
Wrong.![]()
I belong in the " Blessed Assurance' forum.
Also, "will be proven right in the end" and " loves you guys anyway" forums.![]()
i predict a mind altering event in your future.
ing bull . Rationalism and the scientific method owe jack to your false messiah.
ugh
that sounds like my 4th grade Sunday School teacher
Sounds more like the fourth grader than the teacher.
Potentially mind altering events happen to me on a weekly, if not daily basis.
I live in this world right along with the rest of you.
Thankfully, Jesus is true to His promise that I am safe in Him and that my faith will not be shaken, in spite of the cir stances around me.
John 10: 28-29- And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Luke 22:32- But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
you won't be able to fathom the amount of betrayal you will feel.
Son of God, er, um, doggone it, Son of Dog
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That's just a simple matter of perspective. If you believe that a creator made the universe, than of course science owes that creator for providing the material to study, etc. If not, then not.
See, I never understood this kind of thing. Statements like these actively seek to destroy someone's faith. Why would you want to? There's no reason to try and destroy someone's faith in God. If someone is happy believing, they should be allowed to be happy instead of trying to detroy a cornerstone in their life and turning them into miserable wretches.
you were saying?
You cant honestly believe that. You just cant. Thats so incredibly false on every level of pseudo-logic you just tried to apply.
Do you go out of your way when posting in these topics to look like a mindless drone? Worse than that, you seem to revel in your ignorance as if this is the way we should all be (or in this case, scientists should be your way).
Did you go to school? Have you read a book of science ever? A vast majority of scientific research has ZERO to do with how we got here and how it all started.
When I calcuate Force, I multiply Mass by Acceleration. That has NOTHING to do with God.
Chrimeny, I mean, do you walk around your life in this world just looking for God in every corner?
You must be routinely disappointed.
Not if she finds Him!
No need to get aggressive.
And that relates how?
A fear was stated, big deal. Even though I certainly disagree, does it harm me to allow the fear/belief to exist?
Does it harm religious people to allow athiests to exist? No. Does it harm athiests to allow religious people to exist? No. The harm comes not from the beliefs, but how they are acted upon. Trying to rip religion from people who embrace it or trying to force religion upon someone who doesn't want it are both intollerable bigotted actions.
That's all I'm saying.
Unless God created the universe, in which case he's the reason you calculate force by multiplying mass times acceleration.
If I build a house and someone else moves in, the house still exists because of me. That's the concept that was being discussed.
The there isn't. Angel Luv came and posted some garbage about science and rationalism owing itself to her religion when her religion is the one constantly trying to subvert and quiet it.
I agree with the first part.. but it's impossible to be a good moral teacher and a mere man? lol
The lord, lunatic or liar argument is an old one, and not very effective.
Does someone need to bust out a shamrock? lol
Also not considered is the possibility that Jesus is who he said he was, but not who the writers of the bible said he said he was.
So if I wrote down, "Give me a hundred dollars" in the footnotes of your Bible with my address?Surely, God led you to that passage and allowed me to write in it, therefore you should obey?
Smoking the hashish huh?![]()
because they congregate in groups, with children, and the desperate, and attempt to plant the seeds of the anti-christ as being a certain, living, leading person.
and spread, like a virus.A fear was stated, big deal.
mentally, yes.Does it harm religious people to allow athiests to exist?
you're goddamn right it could!Does it harm athiests to allow religious people to exist?
yeah, thats what is usually said after someone acts.The harm comes not from the beliefs, but how they are acted upon.
i'm not trying to rip anything. i'm just asking them to keep their lunacy to themselves.Trying to rip religion from people who embrace it or trying to force religion upon someone who doesn't want it are both intollerable bigotted actions.
you left alot of out.That's all I'm saying.
That's a fringe element, and if you really want to stop beliefs like that, research the theories surrounding the anti-christ and show them they're wrong. Assaulting someone's beliefs in a manner that doesn't accept any portion of it only makes a person defensive and cling tighter to their beliefs.
The statements you've made do not address anything constructively and accomplish nothing but ferment more strife and anger.
BS. The existence of the other does not cause harm. The feelings of intolerance and irrational actions is what causes the harm. If everyone showed respect and acceptance of other beliefs, there is no harm.
If you believe what you just said, then you MUST accept that sexuality, and allowing gay marraige would cause harm to those who object to it. Or any number of other situations in the current world. There are many things that follow the same pattern.
No, you're not. You're attacking fundamental beliefs, not asking them to keep it to themselves. When religious people come to my door, I explain I'm not a Christian and ask them to leave. They do. I do not tell them they are wrong in their beliefs or that they should expect a rude wake-up call, or "you won't be able to fathom the amount of betrayal you will feel."
Also, since this is a public forum, you have no right to stop them from speaking. You have every right to calmly argue against them to show they are wrong to prevent what you believe is wrong from spreading, but that's not what was happening. You could also just plain ignore it.
Nothing intrinsic to the point.
yeah, right, why don't i spend all my time explaining to radicals where they are wrong. i'm sure that would be fruitful.
but the poor kids caught up in looney tunes is sad, don't you think?
yeah, trying to explain to idiots that obama is not the anti-christ is no easy business. maybe i should bring cookies.The statements you've made do not address anything constructively and accomplish nothing but ferment more strife and anger.
you've convinced me! Obama is the anti-christ! this is me playing along with idiots. are you happier now?BS. The existence of the other does not cause harm. The feelings of intolerance and irrational actions is what causes the harm. If everyone showed respect and acceptance of other beliefs, there is no harm.
i'm so glad you asked! how does same sex marriage cause harm to them?If you believe what you just said, then you MUST accept that sexuality, and allowing gay marraige would cause harm to those who object to it.
if "Obama is the anti-christ" is a fundamental belief.No, you're not. You're attacking fundamental beliefs,
if thats what they believe, i ask them to go themselves.not asking them to keep it to themselves.
did they say "obama is the anti-christ"?When religious people come to my door, I explain I'm not a Christian and ask them to leave. They do. I do not tell them they are wrong in their beliefs
finally, the needle that went in a little too deep?or that they should expect a rude wake-up call, or "you won't be able to fathom the amount of betrayal you will feel."
i never completely ignore anything that might have an adverse affect on mankind.Also, since this is a public forum, you have no right to stop them from speaking. You have every right to calmly argue against them to show they are wrong to prevent what you believe is wrong from spreading, but that's not what was happening. You could also just plain ignore it.
i didn't say it was essential. i said it's a radical inclusion.Nothing intrinsic to the point.
that thought happens to exist.
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