All Aboard The Reggie Evans Express

[Slinkyman]

Reggie Evans is a smaller version of Nazr Mohammad that rebounds better, he'll have the big game like Nazr but like Nazr it won't last. He also is a turnover machine, remember last year in the playoffs against seattle? remember the guy missing lay up after lay up? that was reggie evans. This guy had 7 TOs in a game last year, how does a guy with no offensive game find a way to turn the ball over 7 times in one game? How about block shots? 5! he had 5 block shots for the entire year! Evans does one thing well, rebound. He sucks at everything else.

TIMVP was right about rebounding hurting us the postseason, but he's wrong in thinking a post player would help. Bonzi wells avg. 12 boards a game, reggie evans can't guard wells therefore won't be on him to block him out to prevent him from crashing the glass. Josh howard avg. over 7 boards a game, once again evans wouldn't help keep him or any other perimeter player off the boards. IMO a guy like Jared Jeffries fits the bill, he's big enough to box out a guy like Bonzi or Josh Howard but at the same time is quick enough to stay in front of him on defense.


EDIT: Przybilla sucks, Rasho could put up the same numbers on a horrible team like portland. Rasho > Przybilla

[Bruno]

Przybilla sucks, Rasho could put up the same numbers on a horrible team like portland. Rasho > Przybilla

Quite agree, even if i take Pryzbilla over Rasho because Pryzbilla is a good rebounder. Peyzbilla is very injury-prone, if he gets more than the MLE, it will be one more proof of the lack of "good" centers in the nba.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Reggie will get the full MLE from a team next season. Alot of people are saying you could use half the MLE for him, that wont get it done

Im hoping the Nuggets resign him, his play makes up for the nut incident

crotch grab incident and all, the guy is worth the MLE

[baseline bum]

I think the Spurs don't need to retool to guard Dirk. When you're able to guard Dirk with Bowen you're ok. The problems arose when they put Bowen on him and Jason Terry and Josh Howard got to the rim at will. Our real problem was in that series had nothing to do with stopping Dirk but with stopping penetration and grabbing rebounds.

I can be convinced that a rebounder will put the Spurs over a "hump" because that was the biggest weakness in both series this year. We got murdered on the glass.

I think we lost this series because we had no one who could block-out Nowitzki. It lost us game 3, and almost lost us game 5. The Spurs were destroyed by Detroit in the season because they could not hang with the Wallace's on the glass. I have worries about Evans though. Why can't this guy get minutes on the floor? You can say he'd average 24 in 48 minutes, but there's gotta be a reason he's only playing 14 minutes a game in the playoffs with no Nene and no K-Mart.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think we lost this series because we had no one who could block-out Nowitzki. It lost us game 3, and almost lost us game 5. The Spurs were destroyed by Detroit in the season because they could not hang with the Wallace's on the glass. I have worries about Evans though. Why can't this guy get minutes on the floor? You can say he'd average 24 in 48 minutes, but there's gotta be a reason he's only playing 14 minutes a game in the playoffs with no Nene and no K-Mart.

I agree with BB. I'm having a hard time jumping on this train. I hope something better emerges in the weeks ahead.

[ducks]

george karl is stupid or does he pick up fouls to much

[baseline bum]

Paxson would get hung if his big offseason acquisition was Rasho.

Hey... it didn't happen to RC in 2003.

[strangeweather]

george karl is stupid or does he pick up fouls to much

Evans never had more than 3 fouls in any of their playoff games.

[nbascribe]

Hmmm......I don't know. I'm like some others here. If he goes for the money, we're screwed. I also don't think he's worth a starting position either. He could definitely solve the rebounding issue but you know how Pop is; he's gotta produce some points to.

[Ginofan]

hey timvp .... how about a sign and trade with nazir and tyson chandler .... tyson chandler has the potential to be a great defender, hes extremely mobile, HE IS THE BEST REBOUNDER IN THE NBA PERIOD cuz he is number 1 in rebounds per 48 minutes and hes a lot younger then Reggie Evans ....i dont know whats tysons contract but it must be huge ... no problem there just add brent barry and beno to the mix .. or even robert horry or oberto and we can match his contract get him here to SA and win the next 3 championships ..... Oh yeah and Tyson Chandler can block shots ...

what do u guys think of this ?

and someone plz give me details on Tyson Chandler's contract

Yeah right.

[T Park]

No thanks on Tyson Chandler.

[timvp]

Hopefully, Pop won't read any of this and get the idea that our fans have figured out what went wrong and we now have the answer. There is no Reggie Evans on the Suns Roster and they are doing just fine against the Mavs, thank you.

Have you heard of Shawn Marion? The best rebounding small forward in the league?

Even the Suns' frontcourt of Marion, Thomas and Diaw would dominate the Spurs' small ball lineup on the boards. And don't think there's anyway the Spurs wouldn't go small on them.

IMO we have two rebounders who will do just fine when healthy. One is TD.

Ok.

The other Rasho.

Rasho? Rasho's a horrible rebounder. Robert Horry gets more rebounds per 48 minutes than Rasho. Rasho had two games this season where he had double-digit in rebounds.

Thanks for the laughs.

When we have to play 4 bigs and the rest small, and with TD over his plascitus condition, we have the horses to beat anyone.

Welcome to small ball. There's not going to be four centers playing.

None of this had anything to do with rebounding.

Spurs got outrebounded in 11 of their last 12 playoff games. That wasn't a factor in the Spurs losing?

The Spurs will be back. Experience is a uva a teacher.

The Spurs had a lot more experience than the Mavs and still lost. Experience doesn't grab rebounds.

[timvp]

The offseason is officially here. timvp is pushing out a wacky idea.

Reggie Evans is an interesting thought, but the Spurs #1 priority should be to try to get this guy:



Joel Przybilla, the Fan Thrilla.

Why sign Rasho's brother?

So that Pop can have another overpaid player on the bench getting no minutes when the Spurs play Dallas and Phoenix next year in the postseason?

[timvp]

Another thing that I don't like with the Evans/Duncan is that Evans can't hit a jumpshot.
Miami play too with a dominant center (Shaq) and a garbage player at PF(Haslem), it works so well because Haslem can hit open midrange jumpshots. Teams that double Shaq are punished by Haslem.
With Evans, the opposite team can double Duncan with its two bigs without taking too much risks.

That isn't much of a problem if you spread the floor. Look at what the Mavs did to the Spurs. If Duncan would ever trap or double off of their bigs, they'd have them flash to the paint for easy layups.

As long as the spacing is there and you have shooters on the court, it'd be pretty easy to handle a big man coming off of Evans to double team. Plus, if Evans is alone to rebound if his man is roaming, that's an automatic rebound right there. Same thing happened with Rodman because if you left him, it didn't do much good because he'd be getting the offensive rebound.

[tlongII]

EDIT: Przybilla sucks, Rasho could put up the same numbers on a horrible team like portland. Rasho > Przybilla

Ridiculous. Przybilla would have better numbers if he played on a better team. Nesterovic can't hold his jock strap.

[Bruno]

That isn't much of a problem if you spread the floor. Look at what the Mavs did to the Spurs. If Duncan would ever trap or double off of their bigs, they'd have them flash to the paint for easy layups.

As long as the spacing is there and you have shooters on the court, it'd be pretty easy to handle a big man coming off of Evans to double team. Plus, if Evans is alone to rebound if his man is roaming, that's an automatic rebound right there. Same thing happened with Rodman because if you left him, it didn't do much good because he'd be getting the offensive rebound.

You don't double Duncan when he is far from the basket.
Evans is a so poor offensive player, that the guy who defend on him can just stay near the basket and defend the paint. It won't help Parker or Ginobili when they drive to the basket.
If you don't defend on rasho he can take some jumpshot (remember the Portland game this year when Pryz hasn't take care of him).

Evans offense is mainly one or two post moves and put back on offensive rebounds. No pick-n-roll, no spot up jumpshot, no drives : I think it will hurt Spurs more than what you think.

[Slinkyman]

Ridiculous. Przybilla would have better numbers if he played on a better team. Nesterovic can't hold his jock strap.

Rasho's best season: 8.7 ppg 7.7 rpg 2.0 bpg

vs.

Przybilla's best season: 6.4 ppg 7.7 rpg 2.1 bpg

hmm...

[timvp]

You don't double Duncan when he is far from the basket.
Evans is a so poor offensive player, that the guy who defend on him can just stay near the basket and defend the paint. It won't help Parker or Ginobili when they drive to the basket.
If you don't defend on rasho he can take some jumpshot (remember the Portland game this year when Pryz hasn't take care of him).

Evans offense is mainly one or two post moves and put back on offensive rebounds. No pick-n-roll, no spot up jumpshot, no drives : I think it will hurt Spurs more than what you think.

Evans isn't any worse of an offensive player than Rasho or Nazr. Plus if you are in a situation where you need to spread the floor, Horry will still be around.

Still waiting on the players you'd want the Spurs to go after. Al Harrington pipe dream doesn't count.

[Kori Ellis]

You don't double Duncan when he is far from the basket.
Evans is a so poor offensive player, that the guy who defend on him can just stay near the basket and defend the paint. It won't help Parker or Ginobili when they drive to the basket.
If you don't defend on rasho he can take some jumpshot (remember the Portland game this year when Pryz hasn't take care of him).

Evans offense is mainly one or two post moves and put back on offensive rebounds. No pick-n-roll, no spot up jumpshot, no drives : I think it will hurt Spurs more than what you think.

You are complaining about his offense so much, but he scores relatively the same as Rasho or Nazr.

I understand he doesn't have a lot of moves, but he averaged about 5.6 ppg in 20 mpg this season. Rasho about 5 in 19mpg. Nazr about 6 in 18mpg. (Estimates)

I think his rebounding will make up for his lack of offense.

(Though I don't want to spend the whole MLE on him.)

[Bruno]

You are complaining about his offense so much, but he scores relatively the same as Rasho or Nazr.

I understand he doesn't have a lot of moves, but he averaged about 5.6 ppg in 20 mpg this season. Rasho about 5 in 19mpg. Nazr about 6 in 18mpg. (Estimates)

I think his rebounding will make up for his lack of offense.

(Though I don't want to spend the whole MLE on him.)

I can complain about his defense : Evans is more focus on getting boards than on defend. I can add if you put him on perimeter player like Dirk, his rebounding ability will be less usefull.

For the offense, it's not about how much you scored : 6 points or 8 points won't change a game but if your opponent can let you alone the team defense will be way better.

Evans Offense and rasho offense aren't structured the same way :

Evans :
Single Covered in the Post (31.47% of his offense)
Offensive Rebounds (29.74% of his offense)
Transition (8.62% of his offense)
Spot Up (6.47% of his offense)
Pick and Roll as Roll Man (4.31% of his offense)
One on One/ISO (3.02% of his offense)
Doubled Covered in the Post (2.59% of his offense)
Turns the ball over (16.67% of the time)
Shots off Screens (0.43% of his offense)
Pick and Roll Ball Handler/Doubled (0% of his offense)
Zone (0% of his offense)
Pick and Roll Ball Handler/Single (0% of his offense)
Hand Offs (0% of his offense)

Rasho :
Single Covered in the Post (22.75% of his offense)
Pick and Roll as Roll Man (19.1% of his offense)
Shots off Cuts (17.42% of his offense)
Offensive Rebounds (13.76% of his offense)
Spot Up (13.2% of his offense)
Transition (4.21% of his offense)
Zone (3.37% of his offense)
Doubled Covered in the Post (1.69% of his offense)
Pick and Roll Ball Handler/Single (0.84% of his offense)
Pick and Roll Ball Handler/Doubled (0.28% of his offense)
Hand Offs (0.28% of his offense)
Shots off Screens (0% of his offense)


Rasho's offense has way more pic-n-roll situation and spot up situation : you had to guard him.

[timvp]

Rasho's offense has way more pic-n-roll situation and spot up situation : you had to guard him.

Teams don't guard Rasho. If he hits his jumper, teams deal with it.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If he hits his jumper, I party like its 1999

[exstatic]

Realistically? With the fouls being called in the playoffs at this ri ulous pace, Reggie Evans would last about 5 minutes against the Mavs.

[Bruno]

Teams don't guard Rasho. If he hits his jumper, teams deal with it.

If you said so, you know BB better than me.
I remember games when he scored 6-8 points in the first quarter on none after but maybe it's because he sucks and not because the opposite team has made an adjsutemetn on him.

[Spurologist]

Does the Reggie Evans Express have a cup I can use?