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The NBA realizes their mistake for knocking the Spurs out to soon.
Even they know a Mavs/Heat Finals will suck.
wow....I can feel better now.
The NBA realizes their mistake for knocking the Spurs out to soon.
Even they know a Mavs/Heat Finals will suck.
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Yeah, just like last years finals.
I do wonder, if the situation had somehow been reversed -- if there had been a phantom technical foul assessed against a Maverick in that situation and the Spurs had won the game -- whether Mavericks fans would still be as self-righteous as they've chosen to be with their newfound "no whining" policy.
It's purely hypothetical, but it's something to ponder.
Mavfans have been whining about Stern and the refs and conspiracies ever since the bandwagon got its wheels. Now that they are actually winning, all of the sudden there never was anyone on the grassy knoll.
I am impressed by their shameless flip-flopping.
You're kidding, right?
The only thing to ponder is how none of the termites would be posting in here.It's purely hypothetical, but it's something to ponder.
Hypothetically, there would be some whinny Dallas es. So does that make it acceptable,respectable, and/or dignified for some of the Spurs fans to act like bleeding s? Seems to me that you would want to act like a fan of a champion, by accepting your defeat with grace and humility. Instead, look at all the undignified ing and complaining going on in a number of these threads. I have seen a lot of credit given to the Mavs, for being the better team and beating you fair and square, but there is a pathetic minority around here that is very vocal and bitter in defeat.
And I've been among those giving the Mavs credit. They deserve it.
But, with the sudden spread of sanctimonious preaching about how fans should deal with complaints about officiating from the group of posters formerly known as whiny Dallas es, I think the question is a fair one, even if posed sarcastically.
Were the tables reversed, I'm sure that there would be a "very vocal and bitter" cadre of Mavericks fans who would be resorting to the old tricks like labelling championships with asterisks and other such nonsense -- in the past, a prevalent effort among many Mavericks fans who've bothered to post here.
It all depends, after all, on whose ox is being gored, right? It always has in the past. (or after Game 1 or Game 6).
How many bleeding Sacramento fans were there in 2002? Or should I ask how many bleeding Sacramento fans weren't there?
Have they rescinded that phantom foul on Bowen too?
If you see how de able it is to make excuses for losing when the Mavs fans have done it in the past, then why are you condoning that behavior from your fellow Spurs fans? Even if you aren't taking part in that behavior, by you making a post that basically says the "Mavs fans would have blamed the loss on the refs, so it is alright for Spurs fans to do the same," you are just ecouraging that type of crap. Really, who cares what the Mavs fans would have done, some Spurs fans need to start acting like they know what the playoffs are all about, because they should, they've been there too many times not to know.
A lot, but I wasn't one of them, I accepted that the Kings lost that series, but there was a lot of blaming of the refs going around.
The same Mavs fans that were whining would still be...
...but I also know that Spurs fans would still be spewing the "No Whining" policy that many of them are violating now...
Next season's matchup Mavs vs Spurs should be interesting, probably now stern wants to capitalize on that rivalry n give them more prime time.....
The same Mavs fans that were whining would still be...
...but I also know that Spurs fans would still be spewing the "No Whining" policy that many of them are violating now...
I don't recall there ever being a "no whining" policy here, this place goes into full mode after a spurs loss.
The same Mavs fans that were whining would still be...
...but I also know that Spurs fans would still be spewing the "No Whining" policy that many of them are violating now...
I never signed on to said policy.
look at you, whinying about Spurs fans
Yes, but the Mavs fans feel they have years of verbal abuse from spurs fans to make up for in one year, so to make their experience more enjoyable, thhey feel they should tell us how to act on our own board.
The same Mavs fans that were whining would still be...
...but I also know that Spurs fans would still be spewing the "No Whining" policy that many of them are violating now...
I haven't whined like this since ".4".
But, there haven't always been good reasons to complain. This year is different. I've witnessed the Spurs get beaten in the playoffs before, but never were the games so close and never were there so many questionable foul calls.
My favorite was Dirk stepping on Tim's foot.
I'm not trying to rationalize any behavior here. What I am trying to point out is that there is a significant degree of hypocrisy in some Mavs fans calling out Spurs fans for being upset by this turn of events. My evidence of that is past behavior when the tables were turned and a credible assumption from that past about how the other side would have responded had they been turned this year.
And I think, in the end, it just goes to show that fans are fans. Fans support a team and don't always act rationally in doing that. It would take a lot of the joy away from watching professional sports if only rational thought were a permitted form of discourse.
I loved that one too...I haven't whined like this since ".4".
But, there haven't always been good reasons to complain. This year is different. I've witnessed the Spurs get beaten in the playoffs before, but never were the games so close and never were there so many questionable foul calls.
My favorite was Dirk stepping on Tim's foot.
Why do these es insist on whining when their team won? You can't stop, can you? Whining is your crack. Keep it on the Mavboard.
Look at it from our perspective:
1) The Mavs were the only team with a convincing win (game 2).
2) The Mavs had one of their top 2-3 healthy players taken away for one of their home games (Terry suspension), likely costing them that game.
3) The call on Ginobili near the end of game 7 HAD to be made. It wasn't a last-second play and Dirk was clearly fouled.
4) Bowen likely fouled Dirk on the final plays of regulation in games 1 and 4. Referees called one of them.
5) Like Duncan on the last play of regulation in game 7 when Dirk probably fouled him from behind, Dirk was fouled by Parker on the last play of regulation in game 5. Both rightly went uncalled.
6) All series long, Duncan got away with his hand-swipe on Mavs' defenders. The league told Cuban during the series that, he was right, that should be an automatic offensive foul and that it would be called. It was never called. Duncan was allowed to continue to do it. It continued to knock Mavs' defenders off balance, even falling into him at times, all while those should have been calls on Duncan (the league admitted). Cuban did some tracking during one of the games and found that when Duncan did the hand-swipe, he shot 70% from the field, when he didn't, he didn't have near the same success and even had his shot blocked by Dampier two times. Many of the fouls Duncan drew were partially a result of his illegal hand-swipe.
You didn't get screwed, you just got outplayed. With all of their healthy players available, the Mavs had 6 games, 4 in SA, and 2 in DAL. The Mavs managed to win 4 of those 6 including a blowout on the Spurs' home court. Without the Terry suspension (which while kind of iffy and weak, but was his fault no doubt), the Spurs probably would have been eliminated in 6. They got a gift from the league and Terry which is all that allowed it to go to 7.
So you can play the "probably" card, but we can't, way to kill the entire basis of your argument.
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