Find where i said anything about detriot beating the heat? like i said the regular season doesn't mean so what happened in november doesn't matter now. If the heat and mavs advance the heat will win in 6 based on match ups.Sorry but you got. By Dub
Also, take a look at the fouls that Josh had (3 and 2) he sure was in foul trouble there.... Wait what happened to the Detriot sweep over Dallas? What happened to Detriot?
Wade averaged 27.2 points a game in the regular season. He's averaging 26.9 points a game in the playoffs.
He averaged 6.7 assists per game in the regular season, he's averaging 7 a game in the playoffs.
You guys are making it way too easy. To save yourselves some time, maybe you should actually look up the numbers before throwing out nonsense that's going to be immediately knocked down with facts.
Wow, before Detriot would be unstoppable if the Mavs played them, since they losing the series now you guys come up with some BS about how we can't win against some else, heck you guys would even and say how we could not win against Portland.....morons.
You didn't mention his other game. I didn't say great. I said well as in decent. Please read. How about playing a team that is not suffering through injuries. Miami seems to be peaking at the right time of the season injury free. If they get past Detroit, they will have Shaq, Mourning, J-Will etc. playing healthy and well. Care to tell me if Shaq or Mourning was missing during the games you played them. It shouldn't be that hard. Just look for the name and read to see if they played. Thanks7 for 19 (36%) on your home court is "good" for a top 8-10 NBA player?
Ok. If you say so.
Matchups? You're right, I suppose James Posey, Udonis Haslem, or Antoine Walker has the potential to slow down Dirk...
I didn't mention his 16 point, under 50% shooting game. You're right. Once we add that into the argument you clearly are correct.
How's this for "please read": Why don't YOU go back and read my original post about Wade, where I said Howard could "slow him down and hold him to 20 or so points a couple times in the series." That statement would imply that the other games he will score 30 or so and have great games. I don't recall saying anywhere that we would stop him, or that we would ever cause him to have a "terrible" game.
Seeing as though he was held to under 50% shooting 2 out of 2 times by Howard in the regular season, I'd say my argument that he can be held to similar numbers 2 or 3 times in a potential finals series is much more substantiated than your completely subjective argument that he'll dominate for 7 games.
Those 3 guys are going to have more success then anybody on the spurs(except bowen) and anybody on PHX especially Posey who's a very good defender. They won't stop him but they will slow him down and Miami has 2 good centers in the middle in Shaq and Zo which means no eazy lay ups for dallas. Dirk will not get 17 boards a game in a series against Miami that's for sure, the x-factor is Shaq IMO and i can see him getting 25 and 12 against Diop and Dampier while doing what SA and PHX couldn't do and that's clog the lane with bigs.Matchups? You're right, I suppose James Posey, Udonis Haslem, or Antoine Walker has the potential to slow down Dirk...
Maybe we should eliminate Phoenix before looking to Miami.
No, my man, you tell me where I said that you said that Detriot beats heat(wow
Marion is just as good a defender as Posey. And neither are even 1/10th as good as Bowen, the only person in the entire NBA really who can semi-consistently knock Dirk off his game a bit.
Dirk will dominate. Wade and Shaq will be awesome. It comes down to the other guys--and Dallas's are much, much better.
why are ing mav s hanging out on a Spurs board to talk about the Mavs/Suns series? how absurd
Agreed, except Marion is such an overrated defender. Great weak side blocker, not a great man-on-man defender. Bowen is amazing at that, and that's why the stats don't show it. On paper, Marion seems as good or better, but it's because his stats are bloated like Ben Wallace's. Weak side blocks and interceptions.
But you are definitely right about our periferals being much better, because they are.
Howard slow him down. Congrats for that. You seem to have ignored my other arguement concerning injuries. This is why they have been up and down all season. They are now getting better and playing well together. Shaq and Lonzo are both healthy and are domesticating the wallace boys right now. Because Shaq is playing well, the focus is a bit off of him. That's my whole ing point. Wade had to jack up every ing shot against Howard who I am not even sure defended him the whole game because the rest his team couldn't do . I wonder why. Injuries. Yes it's legit. They closed out a very good bulls quickly. Wade will have off night of course, but his imprint will be all over that potential series. Points, assists, rebounds, whatever.I didn't mention his 16 point, under 50% shooting game. You're right. Once we add that into the argument you clearly are correct.
How's this for "please read": Why don't YOU go back and read my original post about Wade, where I said Howard could "slow him down and hold him to 20 or so points a couple times in the series." That statement would imply that the other games he will score 30 or so and have great games. I don't recall saying anywhere that we would stop him, or that we would ever cause him to have a "terrible" game.
Seeing as though he was held to under 50% shooting 2 out of 2 times by Howard in the regular season, I'd say my argument that he can be held to similar numbers 2 or 3 times in a potential finals series is much more substantiated than your completely subjective argument that he'll dominate for 7 games.
I agree completely with your point here.
All I said in the first place was that Howard is capable of slowing down Wade from time to time. That's ALL I said. My argument for the Mavs over the heat has absolutely nothing to do with some contingent that Howard will "dominate" Wade.
Like I said before, Dirk, Wade, and Shaq will all be monsters. The difference comes from the fact that Dallas's other players are MUCH better than Miami's other players.
Marion is overrated. But Posey's no better. He's not "overrated" because nobody really talks about Posey's defensive abilities. He's not bad, though.
When I was invited to this site by some very classy Spurs fans I was told it was a site that welcomed all. I guess you would rather have spursreport where any poster Spurs fan or not who says something critical of the team or doesn't praise the team is summarily banned. That is unfortunate. Please don't be offended as I dismiss that as garbage.
Sorry to say this but you got to give some credit to griffin credit for 1 of those games. Griffin was on him all game for one of those, josh never gaurded him. I remember us starting threads on if griffin was are best defender back on our website.Sigh. I love it when people call other people " ing stupid" as they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2005112514 Wade 7/19 for 23 pts
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2006020906 Wade 6/13 for 16 points.
Guess who defended Wade in both those games. Tell me more about how stupid I am, though.
But the point is we can slow him down with griffin, howard and daniels.
no but I dont see the point
isnt there some gay MAvs forum like MavsTalk for you to post in...you need a game comments on a Spurs board? Mav fans can go themselves with an aids infected dildo for all I care. They still act like tools for a team thats never won
You're absolutely right and I apologize for the error.
The mavs have ZERO championship experience. That will be a factor. You don't want players choking in the finals. I'm not sure if I would be confident with players like Harris/Stack/Horn in crunch time.The difference comes from the fact that Dallas's other players are MUCH better than Miami's other players.
Who on the Heat besides Shaq has "championship experience"? I guess you could make a case for Payton. He's never won one but he's definitely a seasoned verteran. Who else? Am I missing someone?
You've gotta start somewhere, in any case. The Lakers had 10x the championship mojo of the Pistons in 2004 didn't they? Now the Pistons themselves are considered a big time "championship tested team."
I agree that the experience can play a big part, but I would still take our bench and role players over guys like Jason Williams and Walker (even though neither of them are bench players) any day.
I didn't seem so much of a factor when the pistons alomst swept the lakers a couple years ago. The lakers had malone payton george kobe shaq fisher and a couple of other guys with championship expirence, it didn't do them much good.
And the back then the pistons had none. At least our coach has some finals expirence.
Marion pulled a casper in this game instead of Barbosa this time. All around poor game from the team in terms of hustle. We were up eleven right before half time and let them get within five points. Came out in the third quarter flat as could be. Seems like since Raja got hurt we have no fire or heart. Frustrating game all around. Thanks for the support anyway. Hope we can come back strong in the next game. Need to play our game not theirs, too much half court and not enough running.
Better talent on the bench? Obviously. That will balance out with the experience of the playing in the finals by the heat. The heat have players the can get them prepared off and on the court like no coach can (Avery is your sole champ experience). Talent won't matter in that series. It will be about desire. It would be a nice final and David Stern
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