The NBA is Rigged....

[LakeShow]

Oh, so the Lakers were getting screwed by the league via the officials, just to avoid sweeps? Does anybody else feel like the Lakers ever got jobbed by the offiating in 2002? You might be the only idiot on the planet that feels that way. Lakers got more than their fare share of calls.

You are living proof that man can live without a brain.

[DirkAB]

You are living proof that man can live without a brain.

You're living proof that a man can have a giant gash between his legs.

[LakeShow]

Yeah, the league didn't like a big market like the Lakers winning so they ins uted the zone defense

It is perfectly all right to have an unexpressed thought. In your case I even recommend it.

[ChumpDumper]

So the league conspired to get rid of the Lakers in favor of the worst-rated finals of all time to that point.

Brilliant.

[awmyplace]

Ya'll is crazy!

[trueD]

I wont dispute that the lakers got the breaks in game 6 of 2002, had nothing to do with the outcome and like I stated, the kings had game 7 in Sacramento. If they did not choke at the freethrow line, they might have won. End of story!

How is it that winning Game 6 didn't have anything to do with the "outcome"? Kings were leading the series 3-2, they win Game 6 and the outcome is much different.

[DirkAB]

So the league conspired to get rid of the Lakers in favor of the worst-rated finals of all time to that point.

Brilliant.

Yeah, that Stern is a sly SOB.

[mabber]

So the league conspired to get rid of the Lakers in favor of the worst-rated finals of all time to that point.

Brilliant.

No doubt...that is one of the dumbest & funniest theories I've ever heard. Thanks for the laugh, Lakeshow1

[Obstructed_View]

I take it you don't believe that Shaq's dominance was one of the reasons for the zone in the NBA?

Who won the le this year, Einstein?

[DirkAB]

Who won the le this year, Einstein?

And in 2002.

[LakeShow]

Who won the le this year, Einstein?

Obviously Shaq and Miami won it, Shaq won it in 2002 as well, your point?

Shaq, single covered was dominating this league like never before. Throw the ball to him down low, slam dunk everytime. The zone slowed him and allowed players to play in front of him and behind him. No where did I say the league did not want the lakers to be in the playoffs or the finals, I said they didn't want them to totally dominate the series like 2001 for reasons I posted.

[DirkAB]

Obviously Shaq and Miami won it, Shaq won it in 2002 as well, your point?

Shaq, single covered was dominating this league like never before. Throw the ball to him down low, slam dunk everytime. The zone slowed him and allowed players to play in front of him and behind him. No where did I say the league did not want the lakers to be in the playoffs or the finals, I said they didn't want them to totally dominate the series like 2001 for reasons I posted.

Is that also why they made the Hack a Shaq rule?

[greywheel]

I wonder how this poll would have turned out if the question was "Is there 'star treatment' in the NBA?" or "Do NBA officials use makeup calls to correct their mistakes?".
I imagine more people would be free to admit to beleiving in either of this two ideas. But don't both these contribute to an "orchestrated" game?

Also, I believe Lakeshow1 is saying (correct me if I am wrong Lakeshow1) that the league prefers longer series and close games, more so than any particular team winning.

[mabber]

I wonder how this poll would have turned out if the question was "Is there 'star treatment' in the NBA?" or "Do NBA officials use makeup calls to correct their mistakes?".
I imagine more people would be free to admit to beleiving in either of this two ideas. But don't both these contribute to an "orchestrated" game?

Also, I believe Lakeshow1 is saying (correct me if I am wrong Lakeshow1) that the league prefers longer series and close games, more so than any particular team winning.

I definitely believe in the "star treatment" and to a small degree "makeup calls", but other than effecting the game both ways while it's being played it has nothing to do with a game being "rigged" nor even "orchestrated".

[DirkAB]

I wonder how this poll would have turned out if the question was "Is there 'star treatment' in the NBA?" or "Do NBA officials use makeup calls to correct their mistakes?".
I imagine more people would be free to admit to beleiving in either of this two ideas. But don't both these contribute to an "orchestrated" game?

But, "orchestrated" would infer that the refs intentially are trying to manipulate the outcome of the game. I don't believe that at all. I think that superstar treatment is unintentional, refs are human and they aren't immune from being influenced by a players star power. They give stars more respect and rookies less respect. I think that the respect level is what determines how many calls a player gets, and I don't think it is a conscious decision.

[ShackO]

But, "orchestrated" would infer that the refs intentially are trying to manipulate the outcome of the game. I don't believe that at all. I think that superstar treatment is unintentional, refs are human and they aren't immune from being influenced by a players star power. They give stars more respect and rookies less respect. I think that the respect level is what determines how many calls a player gets, and I don't think it is a conscious decision.

This imperial (and antagonistic) state of affairs lasted until Garretson retired and Ed T. Rush became the Director of Officiating in 1998.Here's how Rush defined the at ude that a ref should bring to his work: "We see ourselves as choreographing an athletic event and providing the proper setting where the world's greatest athletes can show their skills."

[ShackO]

Obviously Shaq and Miami won it, Shaq won it in 2002 as well, your point?

Shaq, single covered was dominating this league like never before. Throw the ball to him down low, slam dunk everytime. The zone slowed him and allowed players to play in front of him and behind him. No where did I say the league did not want the lakers to be in the playoffs or the finals, I said they didn't want them to totally dominate the series like 2001 for reasons I posted.

I understand your point here and there are several other things the NBA has done over the years but your example seems to imply it was directed @ the show rather than a way "to improve the game"....... A more politically correct term, yet none the less effecting ShaQ prob more than anyone else……..

[DirkAB]

This imperial (and antagonistic) state of affairs lasted until Garretson retired and Ed T. Rush became the Director of Officiating in 1998.Here's how Rush defined the at ude that a ref should bring to his work: "We see ourselves as choreographing an athletic event and providing the proper setting where the world's greatest athletes can show their skills."

You have posted that quote like five times now, and it has yet to sway my opinion. Do you really think that is some sort of admission that the refs are rigging the NBA? Or was it just a horribly bad word choice and a stupid thing to say? That is all I see it as, apparently you too, otherwise you wouldn't have voted no in the poll.

[LakeShow]

Also, I believe Lakeshow1 is saying (correct me if I am wrong Lakeshow1) that the league prefers longer series and close games, more so than any particular team winning.

That is exactly what I have been saying.

[LakeShow]

I understand your point here and there are several other things the NBA has done over the years but your example seems to imply it was directed @ the show rather than a way "to improve the game"....... A more politically correct term, yet none the less effecting ShaQ prob more than anyone else……..

Rule changes for dominate centers are not unusual.

Wilt Chamberlain - Chamberlain was such a force that the NBA changed a few of its rules in direct response to his game. These included widening the lane in an attempt to keep him and his finger-roll farther from the goal, implementing the offensive-goaltending rule and revising the rules regarding inbounding and free throws.

Lew Alcindor - The NCAA outlawed the dunk shot because of his dominance at center for UCLA.

When the NBA implemented the zone, imo it was because of Shaq's dominance in the league. It was directed at Shaq and the Lakers dominance. They didn't mind if the lakers won they just didn't want them to barrel thru the league like that again.

I do not attribute any other rule changes for that purpose.

Maybe it was a coincidence that it came at a time when the NBA lost millions because Shaq was dominating and rolling thru teams with ease.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Rigged is a strong word.

Heavily influenced by Stern and his groupies? I strongly believe so.

[ShackO]

You have posted that quote like five times now, and it has yet to sway my opinion. Do you really think that is some sort of admission that the refs are rigging the NBA? Or was it just a horribly bad word choice and a stupid thing to say? That is all I see it as, apparently you too, otherwise you wouldn't have voted no in the poll.

Well I guess I like that term....... .......lol

Poor choice of words????? I don't know about that, as he never made any attempt to clarify or alter those comments as far as I know, so I guess he was good with it...

I am not much of a believer in conspiracy theories so IMO it would be impossible to fix the NBA or even a game.... DO I think that ppl in corp America cheat, fix, steal, lie and so on? Yea... Would they do any of that to make more money if they could. Yea....

[ShackO]

Rule changes for dominate centers are not unusual.

Wilt Chamberlain - Chamberlain was such a force that the NBA changed a few of its rules in direct response to his game. These included widening the lane in an attempt to keep him and his finger-roll farther from the goal, implementing the offensive-goaltending rule and revising the rules regarding inbounding and free throws.

Lew Alcindor - The NCAA outlawed the dunk shot because of his dominance at center for UCLA.

When the NBA implemented the zone, imo it was because of Shaq's dominance in the league. It was directed at Shaq and the Lakers dominance. They didn't mind if the lakers won they just didn't want them to barrel thru the league like that again.

I do not attribute any other rule changes for that purpose.

Maybe it was a coincidence that it came at a time when the NBA lost millions because Shaq was dominating and rolling thru teams with ease.

Personally I am not much for changing rules but then it would be hard to find a time when some rules were not new or altered….

I really hate some of these dress code rules but you gotta take the good with the bad I guess…………

You watching the draft……. They tearing Isaiah a new one………..

[REDLION#22]

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Was it the comment about being a Pistons hater??? Surely you aren’t going to deny that..

I will make an effort to avoid your Pistons observations as you already seem to have more than you can handle with them………

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ShackO

shackO showing the world his smartass at ude!!! should we feel intimidated???

he thinks im ashamed of hating the pistons
are you kidding me its the REDLION#22 im proud of hating the pistons!!!!!!!

[awmyplace]

shackO showing the world his smartass at ude!!! should we feel intimidated???

he thinks im ashamed of hating the pistons
are you kidding me its the REDLION#22 im proud of hating the pistons!!!!!!!

They just don't understand.