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    He's talented. Tim plays all the time with Horry on the floor. I'd rather have talented players than "the best we can get" at a position of need. Look at Miami who's their 3rd best player? Alonzo Mourning. If you were building that team you wouldn't make it a point to go out and acquire Zo. You already have a center. Talent and depth wins imo. Zo made big contributions to help them win that le. They're a little weak at a couple of individual postiions but have a lot of overall talent. Their 5 best players are a sg, two pfs (Walker and Haslem), and two centers.
    He's talented but you don't know how he'll do in the NBA.

    If the Spurs had a lot of money to spend, then I guess getting Scola would be a no brainer. But they have the ~$5M MLE and the $1.7M LLE. If the LLE is already promised to Javtokas and you give $4M to Scola, then you have only a little over $1M plus minimum contracts left. You still need an athletic swingman and a backup point and you are banking that Scola and/or Javtokas' games will translate well to the NBA. For all we know, they could both bust. Too risky to use up all the money on both.

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    Isn't Sunday the deadline for Scola to tell Tau whether or not he is returning to Spain?

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    I still don't see why the Spurs are inviting all these scrubs to summer camp and no Marcus Fizer. He could be the next poor-man's Malik Rose if he could stay healthy.

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    Isn't Sunday the deadline for Scola to tell Tau whether or not he is returning to Spain?
    That's what I've heard. Dummy is stuck serving for them another season.

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    He's talented but you don't know how he'll do in the NBA.

    If the Spurs had a lot of money to spend, then I guess getting Scola would be a no brainer. But they have the ~$5M MLE and the $1.7M LLE. If the LLE is already promised to Javtokas and you give $4M to Scola, then you have only a little over $1M plus minimum contracts left. You still need an athletic swingman and a backup point and you are banking that Scola and/or Javtokas' games will translate well to the NBA. For all we know, they could both bust. Too risky to use up all the money on both.
    My point is I'd rather we sign a talented player who doesn't fill a need than a weak or average player who fills a need that's all. If we needed an athletic swingman and all that was out there was Melvin Sanders I'd rather we sign Speedy Claxton or Vlad Ramanovic and just add to the overall talent of the team like Miami and many other teams did.

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    I still don't see why the Spurs are inviting all these scrubs to summer camp and no Marcus Fizer. He could be the next poor-man's Malik Rose if he could stay healthy.
    I actually like Eric Hicks to be the next, next Malik. Fizer's a worse rebounder but better shooter, and not quite as short as I thought when I looked back on his draft measurements.

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    My point is I'd rather we sign a talented player who doesn't fill a need than a weak or average player who fills a need that's all. If we needed an athletic swingman and all that was out there was Melvin Sanders I'd rather we sign Speedy Claxton or Vlad Ramanovic and just add to the overall talent of the team like Miami and many other teams did.
    Yeah but we don't know if Scola is NBA talent. We know that Przybilla can get 7 rebounds and 2 blocks a game in the NBA.

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    My point is I'd rather we sign a talented player who doesn't fill a need than a weak or average player who fills a need that's all. If we needed an athletic swingman and all that was out there was Melvin Sanders I'd rather we sign Speedy Claxton or Vlad Ramanovic and just add to the overall talent of the team like Miami and many other teams did.
    This seems to be closer the model the way the league is going. Just get talent - more or less - and let the pieces fall as they may. One thing that kills us is the lack of game-changing talent on the bench. Michael Finley tried his damnedest to be that guy vs. Dallas - monster, pivotal dunks and so.

    That's why Manu's so valuable off the bench in situations. We just don't have those guys there anymore. The rest of the guys seem to be decaying before our very eyes.

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    I'd be very interested to see if Fizer kept off the weight he lost in Seattle.

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    What's scary is Fizer could go to Europe and put up as good of numbers as Scola.

    That's why you can't pay Scola $4M a year.

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    I'd be very interested to see if Fizer kept off the weight he lost in Seattle.
    Well hopefully he did. And hopefully he can stay healthy. He'd been riddled with injuries until this past season.

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    What's scary is Fizer could go to Europe and put up as good of numbers as Scola.

    That's why you can't pay Scola $4M a year.
    But you can pay Oberto $2.5m a year?

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    But you can pay Oberto $2.5m a year?
    Everyone knows paying Oberto 2.5M is overpaying.

    It doesn't mean you have to repeat the mistake.

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    Any information on Maceo Baston? Has this been covered before?

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    Well hopefully he did. And hopefully he can stay healthy. He'd been riddled with injuries until this past season.
    True. If it's just the lighter schedule that made his healthy year possible he should definitely go to Europe. Guess there's only one way to really find out though.

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    Any information on Maceo Baston? Has this been covered before?
    I haven't read anything about him other than he worked out for the Spurs.

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    Any information on Maceo Baston? Has this been covered before?
    I think he went to FA camp, but we'll have to wait to see if he shows up at the RMR.

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    True. If it's just the lighter schedule that made his healthy year possible he should definitely go to Europe. Guess there's only one way to really find out though.
    Yeah, his body might just not be able to take an NBA schedule. But there were even rumors of some problem with his physical in his short stint in Seattle.

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    Judging from this interview of Fizer from the Chicago sun Times, Fizer may be taylor-made for the Spurs..

    What's life like when you're not playing ball? "It's quiet and simple. My basketball career, Bible and my four babies are the three B's that are most precious in my life right now. I have a nice two- bedroom apartment in the Rialto apartment complex owned by Jerry Jones, who also owns the Dallas Cowboys. They say his apartments are like living in paradise. And they're close to right about that. I spend a lot of time reading my Bible in my private time, and I see my kids whenever I can. I'm dating the mother of my first child again, but we're not living together like before. We want to do it right this time, according to our faith."

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    Why do you say Scola doesn't fit a need?

    With him starting at PF it frees up Tim to become the starting Centre (which is a HUGE NEED). Now it's possible Scola isn't good enough to be a starting PF, and signing him is a risk, but to a 3 year deal it would free up time for Mahinmi to develop nicely and allow us to build up Scola's worth for a trade in a year or two's time.

    I'll be upset if we give any of these available players anything more than a 3 year deal, sowing up any ol' big - in a panic - to a long term deal is bad business, and we leave that to the other clubs.

    The long small forward need is one we'll have to either trade or draft for, because the free agent market for those is CRAZY right now, given the way the refs ruled during the playoffs. It's a sellers market for SF's - and we ain't got the cash to buy.

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    Almost off topic ...

    http://www.eurobasket.com/ltu/ltu.asp

    July 2, 2006

    Robertas Javtokas (211-C-80, agency: Interperformances, college: Arizona) won't Join Slanina in Sopot as he Decided to join the NBA side San Antonio Spurs.He rejected to join although he had very good offer from the club.

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    My basketball career, Bible and my four babies are the three B's that are most precious in my life right now.
    Fizer obviously wasn't a math major.

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    What were his SATs?

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    What were his SATs?
    Having four babies means he's probably good at multi-tasking, so I assume at least two times Przybilla.

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    Well, he got the name of the apartment complex wrong too, so....

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