Getting a great center prospect like Javtokas for the LLE is a coup.
Assuming the Spurs hang onto Scola's rights thru next season, what's wrong with bringing him over and permanently moving TD to center with Scola starting at PF? What do you pro-Scola guys think about that? It's probably already been mentioned but I think that tack could work out in the end if we just keep him...
Web Posted: 07/06/2006 09:48 PM CDT
Johnny Ludden
Express-News Staff Writer
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...a.1300a8f.html
One of the agents for Luis Scola accused the Spurs on Thursday of making the Argentine forward a "prisoner" because they don't intend to sign him this summer and have yet to trade his rights.
The Spurs drafted Scola in the second round in 2002. He has hoped to come to the NBA each of the past two seasons but has been unable to work out an agreement with the Spurs, in part because of the large buyout he has with his Spanish team, Tau Ceramica.
Spurs officials made it clear after the season they likely wouldn't sign Scola because they didn't want to invest in another power forward, especially after signing Fabricio Oberto, Scola's friend, last year and trading for Matt Bonner two weeks ago. They also are unsure how well Scola would play next to Tim Duncan, given that both like to work out of the post.
"In the country of liberty, Luis is a prisoner," Claudio Villanueva, one of Scola's three agents, told Argentine newspaper La Nación. "The Spurs do not utilize him, neither do they want to yield him to another team and they impede him to play in the NBA."
Spurs officials declined comment except to say they have not spoken to Villanueva. Instead, they have worked with Scola's U.S. agent, George Bass, for more than a month to find him another team.
Several executives from other NBA teams said the Spurs tried to use Scola's rights to move into the first round of last week's draft. They also have sought to secure a future first-round pick for him.
Cleveland and Memphis expressed some interest, but the talks never yielded an offer.
With Nazr Mohammed signing with Detroit and Rasho Nesterovic traded to Toronto, the Spurs are focused on finding a center to play next to Duncan. The pool of remaining NBA free-agent centers is small, so the Spurs have looked overseas.
Croatian center Nikola Vujcic, who helped lead Israel's Maccabi Tel Aviv to the Euroleague championship game this past season, is one of the best big men in Europe and previously has expressed interest in coming to the NBA.
Bob Myers, the agent for Utah's Jarron Collins — the top NBA free-agent center left on the market — called the Spurs "an attractive option" Thursday but also said Collins is assessing all opportunities. The Jazz have said they hope to re-sign him.
Milwaukee is trying to trade Jamaal Magloire but doesn't like what the Spurs have to offer.
Moving Duncan to center and signing Scola isn't being considered. Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.
Had the Spurs not signed Oberto last summer — when Scola's buyout was nearly four times as much as it is now — or if Scola were in position to sign for the $1.5 million Manu Ginobili drew for his first-year NBA salary, the Spurs would be more willing to gamble on Scola. Other teams also seem hesitant.
Scola has distinguished himself as one of Europe's top players, which, coupled with the success of Ginobili and Chicago forward Andres Nocioni, has made him into a mythical star among Spurs fans, most of whom have seen him play few, if any, games. NBA officials, however, seem split on how Scola would fare in the league.
One Eastern Conference general manager said the Spurs could do a lot worse than signing Scola. Others question whether he is athletic and big enough. A Western Conference executive said his team didn't have much interest in Scola in the 2002 draft and is even less interested now.
With the Spurs unwilling to sign him — and apparently unable to trade him — Scola said he would play for Tau.
"Luis is young; he is 26 years old," Villanueva told La Nación. "He can expect that next year he surely he will fulfill his dream."
I have been hot about Scola for awhile, but I think I'm starting to understand leaving him in Europe. Not just from a financial standpoint either. I think moving Tim to Center as he starts to slow down with age is a good plan, but I think we need someone bigger and more athletic than Scola at PF, if just for the sake of defense. DRob proved that an over the hill big man can still make a huge impact on the defensive end, but only if he has another defensive stud to back him up. Javtokas is more of that type of player than Scola, but we don't really know yet whether either or them will be effective defensively in the NBA. Jav has the size and athleticism that Scola lacks a little bit, and that might be the reason why the Spurs are bringing him over and leaving Scola hanging out to dry. What the Spurs don't need is a big lump of dough in the lane, hence, the Rasho trade.
WTF, Scola only wanted 3 million a year? ing cheap spurs.Moving Duncan to center and signing Scola isn't being considered. Scola is seeking a three-year contract worth between $9 million and $10 million, about a third of which would go to paying the $3.5 million buyout he has with Tau.
They don't think he can play next to Duncan. So to them, he's not worth $3M a year. I don't get why Spurs fans don't get that.
But Oberto who sucks big time and can't play with Tim either is worth 2.5 million?
That's the point.
If Oberto wasn't here or if they could pay Scola 1.5M a year, then they'd be more apt to bring him here. But they don't think he's going to be starter material next to Tim and they already have some backup power forwards, so he's not worth $3M a year to them. They aren't willing to make a $10M gamble.
spurs learned their less paying big money for bench players like rose
to bad for scola
they tried to trade him for a month
cavs and mem never even offered anything for him
cavs would have lost like a 20-28 first round draft pick for him
ferry had alot of info on scola and did not even think he was worth it
Plans seemed to have changed:
The Spurs, for instance, traded away their pick this year to the Knicks (in the Nazr Mohammed deal), believing the draft would indeed be weaker because of a likely age limit. But that's not to say that general manager R.C. Buford won't be active this summer. We could well see a third Argentine on the Spurs' roster next year, as they are very optimistic they can finally sign veteran big man Luis Scola, whose rights they have. Scola, who plays in Spain, was thought to be coming to the Spurs this year, but buyout talks stalled and Argentine Fabricio Oberto was signed in his place (three years, $7.325 million with a player option for Year 3). Now, the Spurs are optimistic that Scola, Oberto, and Manu Ginobili will be on board next fall in what is starting to resemble Buenos Aires North.
I don't know...I prefer to wait till next 12 july!
Then, we'll understand if Javtokas is signed with the MLE or with the LLE.
My take is he's gonna be signed with the MLE...otherwise it will be an absolute bargain for the two years (but, if he explode like a wonderful center...will we be able to keep him ?)
In case he's just signed with the LLE, in my opinion, ther's no more reason to let Scola in Europe...expecially if he wants to be paid just three millions a year for three years (so we have his bird rights).
The less he can be in the NBA game, is the first option for the inside game when TD is not on the floor...and just that is worth the signing at that price, at least just for a try.
And consider that his value could grow up considerably after a good performance in the incoming games!!!
So, if J. is signed with the LLE (wait till 12 July), sign him immediately for three years now at that cheap price...it's just a win win situation.
how about we signed scola, and keep on deferring the offense to him for the first half of teh season till trading deadline, then ship his ass in return for some draft picks
That makes more sense. No other team was willing to trade very much for Scola.Several executives from other NBA teams said the Spurs tried to use Scola's rights to move into the first round of last week's draft. They also have sought to secure a future first-round pick for him.
Cleveland and Memphis expressed some interest, but the talks never yielded an offer.
The way I read it makes this even more puzzling. If the buyout is included in the contract, Scola's contract would only pay him $1.85 million a season over the contract's three years after you take out the $3.5 million buyout. That seems extremely cheap for what is supposed to be the best PF in European. It is almost identical to what Manu got his first couple of seasons.
There must be something else holding this up. The money should not be an issue. The Spurs don't look to have any good options this offseason but they still don't want Scola. And it sounds like enough teams are interested in Scola to talk but are not willing to give the Spurs what they want.
Seems contradictory that the Spurs don't think he is worth $1.85 million a season yet they expect another team to give up their first round draft pick for him. I think the Spurs have added to the problem that Scola created for himself. It sounds like their actions have devalued him as much as his at ude. It is an unfortunate situation, one I suspect the Spurs wish they had handled differently.
Scola being held "prisoner" by Spurs
Scola being held ''prisoner'' by Spurs
Luis Scola - F - SA
One of the agents for Luis Scola accused the Spurs on Thursday of making the Argentine forward a "prisoner" because they don't intend to sign him this summer and have yet to trade his rights.
The Spurs drafted Scola in the second round in 2002. He has hoped to come to the NBA each of the past two seasons but has been unable to work out an agreement with the Spurs, in part because of the large buyout he has with his Spanish team, Tau Ceramica. The Spurs also don't want to lock into another power forward, especially after signing Fabricio Oberto and Matt Bonner. The Spurs are said to be trying to move Scola, but nothing has transpired as of yet. Jul. 7 - 11:49 am et
leeeeet my Scola goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That´s the Reality of the NBA for the Big Guys
If they played in the NBA 10 minutes, they must to sign at least for the MLE
If they played in Europe, they must to sign for the LLE
That´s not correct
Oberto in Europe always was a better Center than Javtokas, and both were good Player in Europe, but not one of the Bests
Yesterday #1 Bargnani score 10 Points in the First Q, and Scola is better player than Bargnani in Europe
The last Scola-Bargnani game was:
http://www.euroleague.net/stats/stat...12&partido=134
Scola: 16 Points (7/10: 70% FG) and 5 Rebounds, 4 Assits and 3 Steal and no TO
Bargnani: 13 Points (5/10 FG, included 1/5 3FG), 3 RB, 1 As, 2 TO
Scola in the Euroleague is a All-Euroleague First Team, and the Best PF of Europe, he was a All OLympics Second Team, only behind TD as PF, but with better numbers
Probably he can be one of the Best PF of the NBA, but he can be a very good PF, probably there aren´t in the NBA 20 PF better than him
I wonder if duncan does not like scola
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