How hard was it to get rid of Rasho and Rose? It took months and months to find anyone attracted to them, only after the Spurs had to eat years combined of their salaries.
Troy Murphy is not that great of a player. He's not bad, he puts up numbers, but he's not great. His contract runs for five more years and while it doesn't look too bad at this point it's going to be a big drag within 3 years, I'm sure. Why do you think GS is getting rid of him?
Yes, and they haven't taken Pietrus as a sweetener to get Murphy. Even that hasn't been eough.
People don't understand the financial philosophy of this Spurs' organization. There is nothing they have done in the past, nothing they've said now, that leads a canny individual to think they'd willingly take on a salary like this.
$8.3 M
$9.2 M
$10.1 M
$11 M
$12 M
For Troy Murphy-- no thanks.
Spurs would shed 2 years of Brent and Fabricio- but those last 3 years at $33M !!
Mr Body continues his spewing of "Mr Knowitall"
" o Folks"- Bullwinkle voice
Yeah for a guy that would average 10 boards a game, knocks down 3s, and is agressive long and perfect for the new age basketballFor Troy Murphy-- no thanks
As if there are better alternatives out there.
Why is he a ing moron?
I don't know. I don't think he knows anything about the Spurs.
But his name is T Park.
I guess. He still doesn't know anything about how this organization acts. I don't think he pays attention very well.
No, he really doesn't.
So he's a ing moron?
Yes. He thinks the Spurs are trading for Troy Murphy just because he says so.
You want to pay Troy Murphy $11 or 12M? And even more importantly, you think the Spurs would?
We don't share the same conviction. I don't find too that Spurs owner is that cheap.
The reason to trade Murphy in the Harrington trade and not in a separate trade is to make work the Harrington trade under the CBA. Don't forget that Warriors can't take more than 125%+100k in salary back and that Harrington starting salary will be around $8M.
GS has more reason too to get rid of Murphy if they get Harrington.
If getting Troy Murphy now gives us a better chance at winning les while we'er in Tim and Manu's prime years, at the cost of overpaying 4-5 years later, I pull the trigger.
If he helps us get 2 more les, heck even 1 more le, I think the penalties down the road will be worth it. I think that's the mistake Detroit made by not keeping Ben. Sure 4 years down the road he'll be a s of what he is, but they still have (or had) a good chance at a le next year and the year after with that nucleus.
Have to post this:
Brent/Fabricio/Beno for Murphy/Pietrus
Spurs trade everyone left from last year who didn't play. GS gets short-term contracts. And we don't have to hear anymore Spurs trade ideas for a while.
The Spurs would never carry 4 players with $10 million plus for a season. No way. I've never liked the guy anyways. I'd rather have Javtokas and Oberto as our center for the comming season then an overpaid, injury prone, center who doesn't like contact.
I agree furry spurry, no thanks. There are cheeper options out there.
I meant simply from the Spurs perspective. If it was Murphy they coveted so much, they could have gotten him already.
I'd probably jump for a Brent/Fabricio/Beno for Murphy/Pietrus trade. Well, leave Beno out, if possible.
I think Murphy and especially Pietrus are nice players that could play well in the Spurs system.
But this thread is less about unicorn wishes and more about speculating what the Spurs FO would actually do.
And, in the end, with Murphy you simply are paying too much for what he gives you.
So now Troy Murphy is the key to winning two more NBA les!! We really are grabbing at straws.
Won't the salary cap fall drastically in '08-'09 after the current TV deal expires? I can't imagine they'll get anywhere near the same rights fees next time.
murphy would be awesome. hes a double-double guy who can hit threes...but wont he be too expensive? how about their center, Andris Biedrins? he has shown flashes of being a decent to good player...and playing along side duncan will help him grow.
I have no idea, but I'd think in the heyday of Wade and LeBron the league would get an excellent contract. TV rights deals don't seem to be going down.
I don't think that he was available in a trade where GS don't get a quality big in return. If they get Harrington (who can play PF), the situation change.
Had to include Beno to make it work- plus it was a "joke" to get rid of everyone Pop didn't play (Nazr and Rasho are already gone) and leave Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, Michael, and Rob.
I know. We both know it would never happen.Had to include Beno to make it work- plus it was a "joke" to get rid of everyone Pop didn't play (Nazr and Rasho are already gone) and leave Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, Michael, and Rob.
The Spurs spend $50+ on four players and spend $12 million on the rest.
Their starting unit will be:
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
Troy Murphy
Tim Duncan
And that's it. They'll play with four and let the $1M scrubs come off the bench.
= CHAMPIONSHIP!!
Remember that Golden State in addition to Foyle, Biedrins, Murphy, Taft and Cabarkapa just drafted Patrick O'Bryant (thier center of the future) and Kosta Perovic. Biedrins may be possible.
Just look at how many teams will spend $50M for their four best players in 2007/2008 before saying thing like that.
And the Luxury Tax will be at something like $65M in 2007/2008 : $15M is enough for a bench and a role player at SF.
Are the Spurs one of those teams? Can you imagine them ever being?Just look at how many teams will spend $50M for their four best players in 2007/2008 before saying thing like that.
In 2007-2008 : TP+Manu+Duncan = $40M
Having a fourth player paid $9.2M (like Murphy) or $7.8M (like Rasho) isn't a big deal.
And if you find that Spurs are one of the cheapest team in the league, just look at the contract they have given in 2003 and 2004.
Bruno, you may be right. It seems if the Spurs wanted Murphy, they would have gotten him by now - he can be had.
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