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    You y piece of .......You really think Tim Duncan is the best player in the world? this spurs homerism thread.
    Obviously you didn't see Duncan sink 32/11/3 during the playoffs on your ass... with an injury.

    Let's also not forget than before the 06 season started, Tim was #1 on everybody's Best Player list.

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    1) Have the Mavs clearly surpassed the Spurs with their transactions this summer?

    2) Is the Spurs' roster as it stands as good as their roster was at the end of last season?

    3) Would you be confident against the Mavs next season if neither team made any more moves? If not, what moves do you think the Spurs need to make?[/COLOR]
    Didn't read the whole five pages, so I don't know when this turned into a Tim v. Dirk thing, but to comment on the original questions...

    1) The Mavs have become the "deeper" team with their off-season transactions, but as someone else said, you can only put five on the floor at one time. Being deeper gives you more options, but it doesn't necessarily make you better. One could argue that the Mavs were deeper than us last year and they pretty much stuck to an 8 man rotation in the playoffs.

    2) This is a tough question, a great one, but tough. It's best if we go by position:

    C: Wash - we added athleticism and upside, but subtracted proven production.

    PF: Upgrade - Tim is healthy, added depth and long range shooting (Bonner); downer is that Big Shot and Oberto are 1yr older

    SF: Downgrade - Bowen is 1 yr older and will play alot this summer, Finley is 1yr older, Williams is most likely IL material

    SG: Wash - Manu is healthy, but will play alot this summer and Barry is 1yr older

    PG: Upgrade - Tony Parker is 1yr older (a positive in this case) and should extend his shooting range out to 3pt line, Beno's growth was stinted by NVE taking minutes, not a problem w/ Vaughn so he should see more time and production

    This assesment is also based on the Current Roster, and I fully expect the Spurs to trade expiring contracts (Williams) and/or duplicate talents (Old shooter Brent Barry) to get younger and more athletic. Either way, our team is still driven by three players and it depends on how they perform...based on Tim's playoff performance, Manu gaining confidence in world play (had stellar season after winning gold), and TP's expected growth I'd say our roster is better.

    3. Another good question.... as even as it was last year, I think it'd be foolish for anyone to say their "confident" the Spurs can beat the Mavs, but I know they haven't taken a step back w/ the current roster.

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    Spurs vs. Mavs -- Current State
    What is Texas, Alex?

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    WGAF how we stack up vs. Mavs??? season hasnt even started. anything could happen

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    Good thread

    I think the Mavs slightly improved...
    I think the Spurs are about the same...
    I think a series next season, barring either team missing either of it's top 3 players will go 7 games again and basically be a coin flip...

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    great, with a small upgrade

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    - lost defensive center, rebounder
    - who will rebound
    - who will guard Nowitzki
    - who will guard Shaq
    Last edited by fonzy16; 07-26-2006 at 12:21 PM.

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    will shaq be a force in the finals if shaq gets there?

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    Nothing's clear until gametime. On paper, the Mavs look very good as an overall team but then again, the Spurs have a better and more experienced trio right now with Duncan/Parker/Ginobili and it looks like Duncan is back judging from the way he played in the playoffs. Regardless of what happens, I'm looking forward to the games, they should be exciting.

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    will shaq be a force in the finals if shaq gets there?
    he will be if they guard him with finley.

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    I am shocked by how well timvp likes Buckner.

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    Can you believe that the Mavs are talking about a Croshere for Martin trade (with a KVH sign and trade to make numbers match)?

    I think this would be a step back for the Mavs.

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    They'd have to wait awhile to do that.

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    If he didn't like the minutes battle in Denver vs Camby, what do you think he will do in Dallas? There is no way that he will take any of Dirks minutes

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    November 2nd - Mavs/Spurs

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    Can you believe that the Mavs are talking about a Croshere for Martin trade (with a KVH sign and trade to make numbers match)?

    I think this would be a step back for the Mavs.
    I've been hearing that it will be Dampier and a KVH sign and trade for KMart.

    I agree though that they shouldn't do it. KMart is both overpaid and overrated.

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    where were you guys the other day to explain this to the other, less intelligent Mavfans?

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    Whottt is a big KMart fan.

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    Kenyon Martin may be over paid and overrated but Dampier is just plain garbage. A healthy Kenyon Martin is 10 times more productive than Erick Dampier.

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    Erick Dampier is a rebounding beast. He also clogs up the middle on defense. He does have weaknesses but Dallas wouldn't have gotten to the finals without Dampier.

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    I heartily endorse this deal. Please do it as quickly as possible.

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    Erick Dampier is a rebounding beast. He also clogs up the middle on defense. He does have weaknesses but Dallas wouldn't have gotten to the finals without Dampier.
    we made the Finals?

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    November 2nd - Mavs/Spurs
    Should be a good one.

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    Croshere / KVH for Martin? Sure...why not...I don't like the guy, but he's better than Croshere and KVH won't be here next season anyway. I don't care about money...Cuban will be fine

    Dampier / KVH for Martin? Nope...don't want to see that...

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    Kenyon Martin may be over paid and overrated but Dampier is just plain garbage. A healthy Kenyon Martin is 10 times more productive than Erick Dampier.
    HAHAHA!....well, at least you qualified your statement by using the word "healthy" which, while not a realistic expectation (look at k-mart's health status history), is a laudable effort at wishful thinking

    btw, k-mart acts like an a-hole, reason enough to forget about this deal

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    Martin isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. Right now his Trade Value is in the toilet after a couple injury-riddled seasons and the Nuggets would be nuts to settle for the expiring contract of Austin Croshere and his twin brother KVH. Most likely, they'll start K-Mart alongside Marcus Camby and bring Nene off the bench. If K-Mart is healthy, he'll produce decent enough numbers that trading him will actually return value and won't be a salary-dumping move. After all, his trade value can't get any lower, so what do the Nuggets have to lose by waiting?

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