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oh yea. my bad.
MJD also had a kick return td, so he did have 16
oh yea. my bad.
...geezus. vy is a QB...MJD split time @ RB. i think its quite apparent who was more impressive in the time they played.
in case you cannot figure it out, its MJD by a landslide.
When your a change of pace back, and you get most of your carries later in the game, its a little easier to get yards and tds, just ask Marion Barber. And a rookie like Addai didnt have another 1000 yard rusher on his team that other teams had to account for. And that Jville oline is great
Yes he played in 16 games but look how many carries he had in some of those games. Ah screw it, I'll show you myself:wrong. MJD had a total of 15 TDs. VY had 19. and MJD played all year. VY didnt. that balances out the "split" excuse.
Vs Dallas: 2 carries
Vs Pit: 2 carries
Vs. Wah: 3 carries
Vs. Hou: 3 carries
Vs. Mia: 5 carries
Vs. Hou: 8 carries
Vs. Ten: 8 carries
Vs. NYG: 9 carries
Vs. Buf: 8 carries
I'm sorry but that doesn't cons ute a season full work load for a runningback in the NFL. That's what I meant when I said he only played in 8-10 games.
Oh, and I'm sorry, but Jacksonville is/was not a good team, nor did it have a lot of overly talented players. , they went through THREE DIFFERENT QB's because of poor play and injury. That's not a good team around him.
I'm writing a letter to someone. MJD for OROY.
By that logic, John Elway had a season where he averaged 9 yards a carry.
You can't use yards per carry for a qb, it's a different type of animal. You can however use total yards rushing for a qb, of which you'll get no argument from me that VY is very good at.
Ordinarily people live and learn. You just live.
Stop that, this is a good debate now.
You trying to argue that Quinn Grays 22 attempts this seaon cons ute 3 DIFFERENT QBS is a weak argument. The Eagles played 3 qbs this year and they are in the playoffs. Im not saying MDJ isnt deserving, I know he is the , Im just saying no one did more with less than Vince.
too bad its too late. VY won OROY. game over.
To me, VY getting rookie of the year was strictly a judgment call not based on statistics. You can't argue that VY's stats were any good, they weren't. They based his award on the fact that he made big plays when they needed him to. But to me, they still only went 8-8 while someone with actual statistics was on an equally bad team.
Everyone says that the ans weren't supposed to be any good though. Well how many of you had Jacksonville winning anything in your pre-season predictions and yet they went 8-8 as well.
Furthermore, with such a dissapointing season from J-ville quarterbacks, I would think that the runningback position was that much more important then.
I'm just saying.
ordinarily teams that have QBs which cannot make the transition into the NFL, move them to another position.
...the ans prefer not, and put up bottom numbers in comp. % and QB rating.
Yeah its impossible to argue ypc with a qb, Vick averaged like 8 and a half, doesnt mean . What does though is when you get those runs, and most of Vinces yards came in the second half when it really mattered. Its easy to argue for many rookies this year, so much so that players like ONeil and Addai didnt even get any votes, but its intangibles as much as stats if not moreso, and Vince is just a winner
they went 8-8... with 5 of those losses being at the hands of Kerry Collins.
If Vince Young wins Super bowls (and he may very well), I'll shut my mouth about the subject.
Until then, my disliking of Vince Young will make me forever and always, a fan of Maurice Jones-Drew.
I'm even thinking of adding another last name for myself.
I don't know what makes you so stupid, but it really works.
no, 8 of those losses in the hands of the ans.
5 of those losses had Kerry Collins starting at QB... not Vince Young.
I'm giving you the wrong buzzer on this one.
Vs. NYJ 3/4
Vs. SD 7/20
Vs. Mia 0/0
Vs. Dal 14/29
Vs. Ind 10/21
That's a lot of playing time for a guy that didn't play in the first five games.
uhh, thats great....but 8 of those losses were at the hands of the ans.
whoops, my bad. i meant the first 3 games, KFC started. and he got the playing time in the SD game because they were getting the beat out of them, mainly due to KFC being so ty early in the game.
indeed they were. but as a starter, KFC went 0-3. VY went 8-5.
McNabb rookie year 49 % pass completions, Palmers 1st year 18 picks, Peytons 1st year 56 % and 28 int, those guys suck too right
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