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    Clips got killed by the Hawks tonight. How embarrassing.
    Hopefully this doesn't have the opposite effect and make the Clippers realize that they need Maggette. For the season, Maggette is their best +/- guy and getting blown out by the Hawks without him might be a wakeup call.

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    Looks like the current problem is a sprained ankle and an arch problem that has been bothering him for 2 weeks. He had been trying to play through it.

    (And yes, I just quoted myself)

    I wonder if the Spurs FO is reluctant to pull the trigger because he is somewhat fragile. But at this point like someone else mentioned a different environment would make all the difference in a players at ude.

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    But doesn't Dunleavy want him out bad?

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    Yeah, if they were willing to let him go for Barry and Beno, they can't really care that much.

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    I dont think anyone can stop Dirk at this point, you can only SLOW him down. But one thing I did notice about the Dallas loss is that Dirk is an absolute horrible defender, theres bad ones out there but we need to completely expose this. I mean for gods sake Oberto was lighting his ass up. Dirk is a huge liability out there. (and yes I know Dirk has been a bad defender for his whole career but I never relized it was that bad)

    Well I think that's also why so many of us were pissed when Dirk had 4 fouls or so and had to guard Duncan, and instead of TD trying to get Dirk his 4th and 5th foul, just kept throwing up weak time and time again.

    It's almost sad when Dirk arguably guarded TD better than TD guarded Dirk

    I think SA needs to exploit Dirk's defensive weakness much like you can with the excellent-yet foul prone Amare Stoudemire

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    Hopefully this doesn't have the opposite effect and make the Clippers realize that they need Maggette. For the season, Maggette is their best +/- guy and getting blown out by the Hawks without him might be a wakeup call.

    Maggette's demand to be traded pretty much nullifies anything the clippers want, unless they give him the starting job beck, and I don't think they are going to do that.

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    Hopefully this doesn't have the opposite effect and make the Clippers realize that they need Maggette. For the season, Maggette is their best +/- guy and getting blown out by the Hawks without him might be a wakeup call.
    Ah, but Maggette claims he'll be elsewhere by the end of the year. The Clips have to know their better option may be to sit on him until summer, but he's a threat to be a distraction. It is a little puzzling how they let the situation sour, but hey.

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    There's no mention of Williams. Why is he the forgotten man. Why won't Pop play him?

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    Right now the Clippers are a lottery team with Maggette playing 90% of the games.

    He wants to leave and they want him gone.

    They need a change and that is a change (not the best one maybe, but trades aren't easy things).

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    Hopefully this doesn't have the opposite effect and make the Clippers realize that they need Maggette. For the season, Maggette is their best +/- guy and getting blown out by the Hawks without him might be a wakeup call.
    Dunleavy will still hate him, even if the Clips are losing. So I don't think anything changes in their desire to trade him.

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    No one in the league can stop Dirk.
    I can

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    Oh yeah, tonight Tim Thomas was the only Clip who even attempted a three pointer.

    Elgin wants shooters.

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    god, if the deal could go down, the hope would be back

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    Well, if the Spurs end up putting Bonner in the rotation, shortening the rotation, playing the Big Three more minutes and looking harder at Maggette, the loss to the Mavs would have been worth it. If the Spurs won, they could have just continued playing a style that was going to get them bounced in the playoffs.

    Tomorrow should be an interesting game.



    P.S.

    In regards to shortening the rotation, is everyone in agreement that it should be Barry over Finley? To me it's close but I give the slight advantage to Barry because he has been shooting better. Although a case can be made that Finley's superior defense makes him the more valuable player.

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    If we get Corey, hope he won't have a major injury

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    In regards to shortening the rotation, is everyone in agreement that it should be Barry over Finley?
    I do.

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    15-Dec-06: Missed 2 games (bruised left knee).
    11-Dec-06: Bruised left knee, inactive list.
    19-Apr-06: Missed 7 games (back spasms).
    09-Apr-06: Back spasms, day-to-day.
    03-Mar-06: Missed 39 games (foot injury).
    07-Dec-05: Foot injury, day-to-day.
    09-Nov-05: Missed 4 games (hamstring).
    05-Nov-05: Hamstring, day-to-day.
    20-Apr-05: Missed 5 games (left wrist injury).
    13-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, injured list.
    12-Apr-05: Left wrist injury, remainder of the regular season.
    09-Feb-05: Missed 5 games (shoulder injury).
    29-Jan-05: Shoulder injury, day-to-day.
    26-Jan-05: Missed 2 games (left foot injury).
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    26-Dec-04: Missed 1 game (groin).
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    01-Dec-04: Missed 2 games (sprained left ankle).
    28-Nov-04: Sprained left ankle, day-to-day.
    Diagnosis based upon the above: Clipperitis.

    Maggette will explode once he leaves. The Spurs tried to get him when he was a restricted FA a couple summers ago. He signed with Utah (I believe) and the Clipps matched. Why they soured on him, I don't know. I don't see all the selfishness that has been discussed.

    But I just don't see the Clipps trading him to the Spurs -- despite his problems, he's got too much talent to be traded for a journeyman (Bonner), a past-his-prime shooter (Barry) and/or a poor man's version of Marco Jaric (when the Clippers already got rid of the genuine article with no regrets.)

    It's great listerning to all this talk, though, even if I can't quite buy it.

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    In regards to shortening the rotation, is everyone in agreement that it should be Barry over Finley? To me it's close but I give the slight advantage to Barry because he has been shooting better. Although a case can be made that Finley's superior defense makes him the more valuable player.
    Finley.

    Finley last night actually made shots, and will drive to the bucket in traffic.

    Barry still does the passive bull , throw it back out, and sotp and shoot that one handed shot.

    barry and bench him again.

    Look how well it worked in game 1

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    Buti f Corey joins SAS, Manu we'll be a 6th man, because Corey doesn't want to come of the bench ; and we need Bowen's D
    And Corey is a little bit selfish too

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    Barry over Finley easily

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    In regards to shortening the rotation, is everyone in agreement that it should be Barry over Finley? To me it's close but I give the slight advantage to Barry because he has been shooting better.
    Not this week, Elgin.

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    Diagnosis based upon the above: Clipperitis.

    Maggette will explode once he leaves. The Spurs tried to get him when he was a restricted FA a couple summers ago. He signed with Utah (I believe) and the Clipps matched. Why they soured on him, I don't know. I don't see all the selfishness that has been discussed.

    But I just don't see the Clipps trading him to the Spurs -- despite his problems, he's got too much talent to be traded for a journeyman (Bonner), a past-his-prime shooter (Barry) and/or a poor man's version of Marco Jaric (when the Clippers already got rid of the genuine article with no regrets.)

    It's great listerning to all this talk, though, even if I can't quite buy it.
    As exciting the prospect is, I agree, just don't see the Clippers handing Maggette over like that.

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    Not this week, Elgin.


    Recent production means nothing. I'm sure the Clippers wanted Bonner two weeks ago.

    They don't get ESPN in LA, right?

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    Buti f Corey joins SAS, Manu we'll be a 6th man, because Corey doesn't want to come of the bench ; and we need Bowen's D
    And Corey is a little bit selfish too

    Even better.

    Its 02 03 again, with a solid shooting, good slashing shooting guard, and an energetic crazy guard coming off the bench.

    If Maggette somewhat improves defensively, he would play critical minutes next to Manu, in the 4th.

    Wich would be fan freakin tastic.


    But again, i doubt the trade happens.

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    What I want to know is this.....


    What if the Maggette trade doesn't happen?

    I mean, even if Pop pulled his head out of his ass when it came to the rotations, we all seem to agree this roster just isn't cutting it.


    So if this fantasy Maggette trade fizzles out, where do we go from here?

    I'm glad to see the team addressing their issues, but with so much hope placed on Maggette, what is our Plan B?

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