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    Pity is fine CBF, but pity doesn't preclude you don't do what is in the best interest of the real victims here: the children. I feel pity and sympathy for anyone who falls into some sort of trouble or anyone who can't seem to make responsible decisions and falls into societies cracks, but thats all it is: pity. Pity doesn't mean that you make special accomodations for the perpetual breakers of these laws.
    Of course not for the law, because law is law, i wasn't asking that these last couple of posts. I was asking more along the lines of social opinion, when that person falls, of course he'll go to jail, but what will we think about it, we being the people who are disgusted by child predators
    What will be the verdict that society gives that person? These type of questions are going to becoming insanely more tangled when genetics starts hashing out Gattica type .

    Or is society supposed to accept all laws as the final word? (l o l)

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    thats the main issue. there is a clear line, in my opinion, that can be drawn between healthy and unhealthy attraction to younger people. if you have a strong sexual attraction to prepubescent girls then everyone can agree that is unhealthy.
    But since everyone develops at a different pace, some young girls (13, 14, 15, etc) can appear and act very mature. Different hormones and pheremones are produced by these girls than their more slowly developing, same-aged counterparts. So, physiologically speaking, attraction in this case is very healthy in my opinion

    But people who are mentally healthy do not try to hook up with these girls over internet chatrooms. Thats what perverts/sexual predators do

    But there are some people with monogomy in mind that are too shy or too much of a (for lack of a better word) loser to meet people in person..

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    But there are some people with monogomy in mind that are too shy or too much of a (for lack of a better word) loser to meet people in person..
    People with monogamy in mind do not contact minors through interent chatrooms for meet for practically anonomyous sex. I don't know of many healthy relationships that start that way for people in the same age bracket much less a situation like this.

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    People with monogamy in mind do not contact minors through interent chatrooms for meet for practically anonomyous sex. I don't know of many healthy relationships that start that way for people in the same age bracket much less a situation like this.

    What? So are you saying each case of sexual predation arose from a chatroom intentionally meant for people to hook up and ?


    I don't watch much of this show so I am in the dark here, I thought they just randomly found these guys through random internet chatrooms

    plus, i doubt the law would care what type of chatroom the meeting arose from

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    I agree. But everyone's self control has a limit.

    Society having no pity for this is wrong imo.
    So maybe this show is perhaps having an unexpected effect on the society that watches it.
    once again im not saying ing little kids is okay and i personally think its sick so please
    if i gave you the impression i thought you thought it was ok i am sorry, i wasn't trying to insinuate that. even if there was a sort of genetic link proven for this "craving" it would have zero effect on popular thought. just like a "fat" gene, the majority would have no sympathy.

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    But there are some people with monogomy in mind that are too shy or too much of a (for lack of a better word) loser to meet people in person..
    you're talking about the small minority of the people who are doing this "online soliciation of minors".

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    if i gave you the impression i thought you thought it was ok i am sorry, i wasn't trying to insinuate that. even if there was a sort of genetic link proven for this "craving" it would have zero effect on popular thought. just like a "fat" gene, the majority would have no sympathy.
    LOLOL no dude that comment was for the forum in general

    but LOL

    fatness is a special case


    but stuff like this will have an effect in all of our lifetimes, just wait, its inevitable. since we've been talking about 'back in the day' in this thread, back in teh day they said global warming would never be thrusted upon the common marriott, but its happening right now

    if we all arent melting in a few decades, the ramifications of genetics research will be an amazing culture shock to modern countries

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    Any man in his right mind knows that regardless of who is the "predator" it is just plain wrong. Period. I don't give a rat's ass who is the agressor. Those damn freakin' punk ass perverts.

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    This thread was an entertaining read. My take is that pervetedjustice and dateline deserve a medal and high ratings because they're doing a great service for the community. Not only are they telling a cautionary tale to all the perverts out there, but they are also educating parents and their children about a potential danger that's out in the world. It's good for everybody.

    Some people bring up the question of a genetic predisposition to pedophelia. I think that's a weak ass excuse. Alcoholism runs in my family. Can I get a break if I ever get a DWI (knock on wood)? Probably not. If you have the pedo-gene, that sucks for you but learn to deal with it.

    These GROWN MEN who drive hundreds miles with a box of condoms and a bag of Taco Bell, all in the hopes of getting laid by a 12 year old, get ZERO sympathy from me.

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    I think we all see the difference, but I am playing devils advocate here because I was watching a prison special on msnbc and the dude was in tears and flat out said "I am attracted to younger women. I don't know why. I just am. If I could fix it I would. But its just the way I am."
    And what happens when the 14 year old gets older and starts looking more like 25? The attraction dissipates and the pedophile gets back online to find someone who looks more like "what he's attracted to". Pedophilia may be a valid disorder, but the actions it provokes are not socially or ethically acceptable.

    With regards to marrying a 14 year old, that usually only happens if the 14 year old is pregnant, and it still takes a lot to convince the courts it's a good idea then.

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    Cover yourself with mud, but whatever you do, don't use a flashlight.

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    hahahaha, good one trainwreck, it only took someone 6 pages to bust that out

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    New Dateline coming up.

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    Hmm.. to watch this or Idol in S.A.?

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    is it to catch a predator?

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    is it a new to catch a perv?

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    Long Beach, if that helps.

    Laser sights on the guns are a nice touch.

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    is it a new to catch a perv?
    yes.

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    The decoy looks pretty old this time around.

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    quick, someone send us two AAA batteries so we can switch back and forth to catch a perv and american idol

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    Haha, those guys are goddamn morons.

    "Hmm if I tell her I'm coming in a SUV, and rent a car instead, I'll somehow throw the police off even though I'm the only one who knows the girl will be in the park"

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    These guys need to be killed, end of story.

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    hahahaha, good one trainwreck, it only took someone 6 pages to bust that out

    It's nearly impossible because they have those nukes strapped to their arms.
    It got buried

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    From The Smoking Gun:

    NBC's "Perverted" Justice?
    Axed "Dateline" producer slams popular "Predator" series as unethical

    MAY 29--In a scathing broadside at NBC's popular "To Catch a Predator" series, a former producer charges that she was canned last year after complaining that the show violated "numerous journalistic ethical standards" and many of the network's own "policies and guidelines."

    In a breach of contract lawsuit, Marsha Bartel, 49, alleges that her 21-year career at NBC ended months after her August 2006 appointment as "sole producer" of "To Catch a Predator," which conducts sting operations targeting men seeking illicit liaisons with children they've met online. According to her complaint, which was filed last week in U.S. District Court in Chicago, Bartel charges that many of the program's ethical lapses stem from its relationship with Perverted Justice, a shadowy vigilante group that the show uses to "troll for and lure targets into its sting." A copy of Bartel's lawsuit can be found below.

    According to Bartel, by paying Perverted Justice, NBC has given the group a "financial incentive to lie to trick targets of its sting." The iden ies of the group's 50-plus volunteers were kept secret from her, Bartel says, adding that Perverted Justice does not provide "complete transcripts from its trolling operations," so network officials "cannot independently verify the accuracy" of the group's transcripts. In some instances, Bartel claims, sting targets are "led into additional acts of humiliation (such as being encouraged to remove their clothes) in order to enhance the comedic effect of the public exposure of these persons." She also charges that NBC has unethically covered up the fact that law enforcement officials have acted improperly while working in conjunction with the "To Catch a Predator" crew, such as "goofing off by waving rubber chickens in the faces of sting targets while forcing them to the ground and handcuffing them." Bartel says that when she "raised concerns" about controversial comments made by Perverted Justice's founder, David Corvo, executive producer of the newsmagazine "Dateline," responded, "We all know they're nuts."

    Bartel, who signed a four-year contract in March 2006, contends that soon after reporting her concerns about "To Catch a Predator" to NBC management, she was terminated effective December 24, 2006. While NBC told her she was part of a "mass layoff precipitated by general business factors," Bartel alleges that she was canned in retaliation for insistence on "ethical and accurate reporting on the Predator series." NBC, she adds, was "more interested in sensationalizing and dramatizing the Predator series for profit than news reporting."

    Bartel is seeking at least $1 million in damages from NBC. In a statement, NBC said it has been "transparent about our reporting" on the Predator series, for which audience reaction has been "overwhelmingly positive. NBC News is proud of its reporting and we believe this lawsuit is without merit." (10 pages)

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l?link=rssfeed

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    According to Bartel, by paying Perverted Justice, NBC has given the group a "financial incentive to lie to trick targets of its sting."
    Ummm, that's the whole point of a sting, dear.

    As the father of an 8-year old daughter, I say more power to 'em.

    Get these heads off the streets by any means necessary.

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