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    Interesting that the deal is coming about so soon. We may not hear alot about it for awhile; since Charlotte is the only team with any available cap space, several other teams may be trying to jump in on the deal.
    Think it's going down today.

    Or has already gone down.

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    Hoopshype has the Charlotte Observer article front page. Don't know whether submitter got it there or they got it from here or the paper.
    I'm sure they got it from the Observer, just like I did ...
    http://www.woai.com/content/sports/s...2-e80e8413fee7

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    Could they get Knight in the deal... It's getting more and more exciting
    they could...but as of now it looks like a small move

    I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Knight being in the deal...

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    If this does happen,

    Good luck to Finley. He simply hasn't been a good fit with San Antonio.
    Shooting a terrible 38% for the year. Most of them were WIDE OPEN, UNCONTESTED shots.

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    Hoopshype has the Charlotte Observer article front page. Don't know whether submitter got it there or they got it from here or the paper.
    it's on the charlotteobserver.com web site too. it's legit but it may be part of a bigger deal since the bobcats have a load of caproom

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    Another thing to note is that Ely has to okay the trade. He signed a one-year contract that will give him bird rights, so he can refuse any trade.
    His agent may tell him look at what sucking it up and doing it right did for Stephen Jackson and Speedy Claxton.

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    Another thing to note is that Ely has to okay the trade. He signed a one-year contract that will give him bird rights, so he can refuse any trade.
    He would have to be insane not to want to come here and play next to Timmy.

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    Butler's work ethic with the Spurs has been fine.

    Where do you get that its bad?
    From this Ludden mailbag from the Express News:

    What is the deal with Jackie Butler? Why isn't he getting more minutes for everyone to see what he can do?
    – Wes, Denton

    The Spurs have seen what he can do in practice, and it isn’t much.

    He also didn’t help his cause last week in Chicago. Pop put him in for the final minute, the Bulls missed a shot, the rebound bounced right to him and he didn’t move a half-foot to get it. One of Chicago’s players went around him, grabbed the ball and put it back up for a layup.


    I know one minute of playing time isn’t going to produce a fair assessment of someone’s skills. But that someone should at least pretend to do something.

    If nothing else, Jackie recently received a lesson in inactive-list etiquette.

    After Matt Bonner injured his knee and couldn’t walk off the court, Tim and athletic trainer Will Sevening started to carry him. Michael Finley and Eric Williams quickly ran over to take their place. As Finley and Williams started to haul Bonner off, Tim yelled at Jackie – the only player not in uniform – to go help.

    No one knew how long it was going to take to get Bonner to the locker room, so what would have happened during that time if Pop wanted to put Finley or Williams in the game?

    Jackie just stared blankly at Tim. Tim yelled again while pointing toward Bonner: “Go help!” Jackie nodded and trudged off after the players.

    Here’s the problem: He’s 21 years old, he showed up out of shape and his work ethic has been questionable at best. It also didn’t help that he came from a chaotic situation in New York where he probably didn’t have much structure.


    This doesn’t mean Jackie won’t ever develop into a rotation-worthy player. I just don’t expect it to happen this season.

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    Think it's going down today.

    Or has already gone down.
    Ok, that's just out of character for this team. More deals to come?

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    If this does happen,

    Good luck to Finley. He simply hasn't been a good fit with San Antonio.
    Shooting a terrible 38% for the year. Most of them were WIDE OPEN, UNCONTESTED shots.
    X 10000000000000

    What would getting a big man have to do with Finley?

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    Brevin Knight averages 11 ppg and 7 apg...they want to give that up??
    Jason Hart averaged 5 apg in that offense as a backup. Knight isn't nearly as good as his numbers are, but he's still worth 4 Benos plus 3 Vaughns.

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    Ok, that's just out of character for this team. More deals to come?
    Yes.

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    Sigh.

    Ya know.

    Its tough to do, but, if were ing about wasting Duncan's years not winning, that trade makes you a contender again.

    I dont know on giving up on Butler though.


    God that would be a gut wrencher being offered that.
    It would be tough to give up on Butler so soon, but if the Spurs could get out of this deal with a legit backup PG and a rebounding big w/o sacraficing a single role player...that'd be huge

    Plus one thing the Spurs aren't short on is PF/C prospects

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    Here’s the problem: He’s 21 years old, he showed up out of shape and his work ethic has been questionable at best. It also didn’t help that he came from a chaotic situation in New York where he probably didn’t have much structure.
    Thats when he showed up.


    Butler's work ethic is fine now...

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    It would be tough to give up on Butler so soon, but if the Spurs could get out of this deal with a legit backup PG and a rebounding big w/o sacraficing a single role player...that'd be huge
    I know but still, Butlers 21.

    I mean, its hard to give up on a good talent that young, when he hasn't had a chance too flourish yet.

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    If there are more deals to come, that would be more suprising than the Ely trade itself.

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    With any luck, we'll be giving them Scola so we'll never have to hear about the buyout again.

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    That smiley smokin gives me hope.


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    I know but still, Butlers 21.

    I mean, its hard to give up on a good talent that young, when he hasn't had a chance too flourish yet.
    Of course it's speculation on including Knight in the deal....all we know for know is that Ely is the piece being moved....

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    NJN reportedly couldn't get him without a first round pick (also mentioned upthread). How could this guy possibly be worth any first, especially with an expiring contract? I truly hope they don't drop a decent pick on him. If it's James White, I'm fine with that.
    I don't want the Spurs to part with J. White. Let's see if the guy can contribute next year. It would be a mistake to give up on him now.

    IMO, the Spurs still need an athletic swingman of a reasonable age (26-30...i.e. Maggette) that can come in and play NOW.

    They address this and they'll have good balance at that spot.

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    Knight isn't nearly as good as his numbers are, but he's still worth 4 Benos plus 3 Vaughns.

    Claxton > Knight > Udrih


    Wich puts you BACK into le contention IMO.

    But talking about knight is false hope, theres no indication he would be coming from the Cats.

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    What if, just what if, Gerald Wallace somehow is in on this deal. What if!!!!








    Nah, it won't happen.

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    I know but still, Butlers 21.

    I mean, its hard to give up on a good talent that young, when he hasn't had a chance too flourish yet.
    My point exactly with J. White

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    i hope there are more deals to come. time to see if we can get anything of value for the scrubs....er, role players that we have now.

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    Expect to hear something confirmed with an hour or so.

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