But -- wait -- I thought what happened last season was irrelevant to this sesaon? Are you now saying that it's irrelevant, unless you think it's relevant? Or is there some other dizzying bit of logic that informs your apparent hypocrisy.
Other than being the current Western Conference Champs because of last season, there isnt much to say. The Mavs/Spurs series wasn't a blow out and could have been won easily by either team. Its not like we dominated, but we did win, thus as of right now, we are considered the current Western Conference Champs. And no, I don't think that is a grand accomplishment.
"we"?
yes..."you" did win the series but if Spurs fans shouldn't bring up past les (something I think is pretty lame when talking about the present) then same rules should apply for everyone regardless of team.
You + Logic dont add up. Ok bud, the way it works is that when any team, in any sport wins a championship, they are considered the "defending champions" Last season plays no part, nor did I ever say it did, in determining anything other than a le, or given name. So saying that the Mavs are Defending Western Conference Champs is not proclaiming anything. Regardless of the exact wording, that type of le is used in every sport to as a way to describe the particular team that earned the le. A year from now I won't be saying that the Mavs are the "once removed defending Western Conference Champions".
What difference does it make if a team is a defending champion, though? After all, what happened the year before is wholly irrelevant -- that's what Mavs fans told me last year, after all. I just want to be sure that I'm in line with the unassailable kings of logic (remarkably, all Mavericks' fans) so that I know whether it's kosher to brag about what a team did last year or not, and whether the things that happened last year might have any relevance whatsoever to what will happen in the current year.
I have never said anything about the 05 spurs, or the 99 spurs, Or the 95-96 bulls, or any Celtics teams. This year, the Mavs, which have never won a championship, are currently playing the best bball in the NBA, and would be considered by many experts, except Hollinger, to be favorites, as of this very second, to win the Championship. I could care less about the previous le.
Mavs Are Champs doesn't like being included in blanket statements about Mavs fans.
Even though he does the same thing to Spurs fans.
At the first of the season Mavs fans were talking about last year, and what the Mavs accomplished. This year, With 2/3rds of the NBA season said and done and the MAvs holding a commanding lead while playing solid almost every night leading to a 49-9 record is what most Mavs fans are talking about. Come playoff time, we will be talking about the playoffs. And come the start of next season, hopefully we can hold our bragging rights, until the season is fully underway.
touche, you got me there and you are completely right about that, I dont like being included in blanket statements, and I have, hopefully, up until now, been hypocritical about that. My bad
What the ? It's ing March Mavs fans. I would shut my mouth, if I were a Mavs fan, because obviously your team failed to live up to last year's NBA Finals expectations. Wait until they actually win it!
Wow now buddy!!! Not once have I trashed the spurs or said that we were a lock to win it. I think we have a of a chance, and the way we are playing right now, I would find it hard to believe that even Spurs fans arent at least a little concerned about facing this team in the playoffs. when youve gone 49-9 you have a little somthing to cheer for. Now if, and hopefully when, we win the championship I will definitely give you a reason to tell me to shut up
Wow now buddy!!! Not once have I trashed the spurs or said that we were a lock to win it. I think we have a of a chance, and the way we are playing right now, I would find it hard to believe that even Spurs fans arent at least a little concerned about facing this team in the playoffs. when youve gone 49-9 you have a little somthing to cheer for. Now if, and hopefully when, we win the championship I will definitely give you a reason to tell me to shut up
Look at your screename dumbass. And not to mention Bump's thread. I think the Mavs are the favorites, but to go about proclaiming that you guys are the champs makes you guys look like idiots.
already addressed that, but thanks for pointing it out again,, and Im not BumpI thought my screen name was pretty clever too. I didnt catch the meaning of your question because other than the Screen name being a wishful thinking proclamation, I use the word "Champ" to describe a badass, or someone I think is just all around great.
As far as calling Stern goes, Im sure that Cuban has already looked into that.
As far as Mavs fans being ridiculed by everyone, I think thats kind of harsh
And Im not disputing that the Championship is the ultimate goal of every team that is in contention this year. Neither are the Mav fans, and most importantly, neither are the Mavs
and to encapsulate the one point that a few of you have about my badass, better than yours, name I will include the following:
I've been told time and time again, that I like a champ.
Let me guess why you only have one season recorded in your TiVo. You always delete the whole previous season out of frustration for another non championship season?
No, I have to have room for Lost and HeroesLet me guess why you only have one season recorded in your TiVo. You always delete the whole previous season out of frustration for another non championship season?
There is one intangible that no one speak about when discussing the Mavs and the Spurs: Jerry Stackhouse.
There is a reason he has been shopped around from team to team for years. He shines when his team is blowing out another team, and he appears to be dead-on with his threes.
Put him in a tense, do-or-die situation and he is a choker. His "chokerness" settled on the entire team last year in Miami.
Then again, now that he is on a "championship" team, perhaps this trend can be reversed. Still, this could depend on exactly what championship the Mavericks have won of late. Just what did they win last year? Oh yes, the right to PLAY for a championship.
"That doesn't make sense".
I have read this thread and find this to be the most absurd defense of the Spurs by a Spur's fan.A business associate and friend of mine in Miami, and season ticket holder to the Heat, told me on Saturday after I offered my condolensces regarding Wade's injury, meaning that our agreed on plan of attending together each Heat vs. Spurs Finals game, should they end up facing each other, was up in smoke.
I'm more humble in my expectations, but it was funny how he said that Dallas is a regular season winner, but playoff soft choker. He said he thinks San Antonio is basically gonna win it all. I was like "but Dallas has Avery at the helm, has a deep roster...." He was like "I repeat, they are regular season winners, playoff chokers."
Now, this is just one fan's opinion, but it is a diehard Heat fan who also contributes to various Heat charities, so he knows intimately ownership and most of the players worth knowing. Its not like he's some teenaged scrub blowing out smack just to get a rise.
I thought that was pretty harsh and funny. I told him I'd post his comments a Spurs fan forum. So here it is. Heat it up, serve it and eat it Mavs fans.
So some guy you know who is a Heat groupie, and hangs out with them because of charity events he participates in, thinks Dallas is a choker.
Well, ain't that amazing.
He has a point.
Last year.
But until your friend suits up and steps on the court and finds out himself, I'd say this is merely a fan's perspective.
And not much more than some teenager talking smack.
Could it be true?
Sure.
But it appears this is where you are putting your faith by your comments. Because some fan of the Heat, and acquaintance of yours, says the Spurs are better, then it must be so.
I read here alot and seldom comment. But I have noticed that during seasons when your team is far superior in the standings, regular season games and the standings are meaningful.
Here we are with the Mavs holding what would appear to be an insurmountable lead, and this board now thinks regular season standings are meaningless.
It will all play out in the end. But the hope shown on this board - just like every other fan board - is truly inspiring. Even if it is the opposite of the tune normally sung here.
The point of the article, and one that has some foundation in fact, is simple.
It's slipping away from you. Each year you are less than the year before.
And as a Cowboy fan who has experienced this several times.
It ain't easy accepting the truth.
Good luck with the rest of the season. I hope we meet with everyone healthy.
Unlike this board, I think the series will be decided in the favor of the Mavs, and much quicker than you expect.
Again, good luck.
Yes because the entire board thinks the exact same way.Unlike this board, I think the series will be decided in the favor of the Mavs, and much quicker than you expect.
Many on this board, most of whom are Spurs fans, have acknowleged what the Mavs are doing and given them credit accordingly. There is nothing wrong in standing behind one's team and rooting them on regardless of their spot in the standings.
You had told Dave..
But it appears this is where you are putting your faith by your comments. Because some fan of the Heat, and acquaintance of yours, says the Spurs are better, then it must be so.
Well on the same point...because you say the Mavs will beat the Spurs in the playoffs...then it must be so?
You are basically implying that since the Spurs have a worse record then Dallas and since you are saying the Mavericks will make short work of San Antonio if they meet in the playoffs, we Spurs fans should just give up? Or as you put it "accept the truth".
GrandeDavid and his friend (neither of which are teenagers...nice assumption BTW) saying SA is better doesn't make it so just like you saying the Mavs will beat the Spurs in the playoffs doesn't make it so. It might happen either way, but there are no guarantees.
A true fan sticks with their team regardless of wins or losses....You will find a lot of Spurs fans are just that. I would imagine most Mavs fans are the same. Hopefully you are too but to suggest that we should "accept the truth" and give up hope and optimism and cheering on our team suggests the opposite.
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