Yet that doesn't stop you from saying Coyote > Drob in arguments does it...
Link?
Funny...everyone says that to me...and no one knows why...
LOL!And I don't really care because you've been served enough ownage for one thread.
Thanks...and you know what's funny....even the admin suck ass Buddy seems to understand that quote doesn't mean the Coyote did more...And that above post I wasn't agreeing with either you or BH. I was just posting what I found.
So he's forced to rely on his lies to justify the fact that he wasn't here...
Hilarious...
LMAO...you guys think I was serching for Udoka stuff or something...
I was searching for the Coyote Drob thread...
Oh..timvp, you said Udoka sucks in chat and the Spurs wouldn't do anything in chat...
Link that, Buddy.
Enough ownership for this thread I guess...
Hmmm searching Udoka the only thing of interst I've found yet is that it was Chump that brought him to your attention...
Coyote > Drob
Yeah, no kidding. It has been pretty funny
Just about as hilarious as you dodging my questions for the 11th time.
Meltdown has started . . .
ChumpDumper listing his name back in 2005 or whatever with 10-day contract candidates isn't the same thing as saying you want the Spurs to sign him this summer.
But keep dodging.
Um...what am I supposed to do...you continually claim scoreboard for Bonner and Elson...even though, Bonner's didn't do in the post season and Elson got regular minutes...
Exactly how is that any kind of ownership?
Additionally, saying the Spurs would get Udoka...whether you said it or not, doesn't change the fact that you said the Spurs were not going to do much this offseason...
That's a hedge plain and simple...just becuase you said 2 different things doesn't mean you have a consisten POV.
It's like me saying Cavs in 5 but throwing a, if Bowen keeps LeBron in the realm of mortals Spurs will sweep, qualifier out there...
The difference is...my qualifier was dead on accurate.
Fact...the Spurs have been rumored to be interested in Udoka before any payroll trimming trades were done, before White was waived...
That seems to indicate they were going to add something, whether the trades went through or not...
In contrast to you and MB's claims they wouldn't do anything becuase they'd be too worried about the tax.
Secondly...
I want you to give me a link that they didn't try and aquire a better SF...
Who's better than Udoka that they had the money to sign? Or that they could have gotten in trade?
That's what you need to prove...otherwise, it's just undeserved FO bashing. A FO that consistently outthinks and outmanuevers all the experts on this board....Reggie.
And please do link to the Coyote>Drob stuff in retaliation for Reggie...it'd be nice for you to at least understand why you are saying it...
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I said the Spurs would upgrade inspite of what you guys were saying about them dodging the tax...
All that has to happen for you to be right is for them to stand pat...
Why are you so worried that isn't going to happen? Because you said all year the tax would be the priority? And I said the Spurs FO would outmanuever you and MB?
Like they did last season...
<insert part where TimVP claims vindication on Bonner and Elson, even though Bonner did less than Rasho in the post season and Elson didn't........
And we'll never know how much of an impact Elson would have had against the Mavs...
Link to where I claimed scoreboard over you regarding Elson and Bonner in this thread?
Stop making things up.
Are you trying to own yourself? Who is owning you on those points? This is what I said:
Do you see any mention of Bonner or Elson in there? You must be getting owned by your inner conscious.
For the millionth time, Udoka = "not doing much".
It's the same damn take. Signing a guy for less than half the MLE is "not doing much". What is making you not understand this?
So you are an admitted hedger.
Congrats.
Fact #2. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka before it was reported that the Spurs were going after Udoka.
Fact #3. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka to help preserve The 2008 Plan.
Signing Udoka would have fit into The 2008 Plan.
What indicates they are going to do something is that they have like three open roster spots.
Worried about the tax? Where did you pull that out of? This thread is about salary cap. Not the tax.
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Desmond Mason. Morris Peterson. Matt Barnes.
Need more?
You are an FO sucker. You think they can do no wrong.
Marcus Williams looks like a bust of a pick. They wasted years and years on Melvin Sanders. The Rasho signing cost them at least one championship. They are good but they make mistakes.
You can think that the FO is infallible. I think they are human.
I'll stick with my way of thinking, thanks.
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So for you to be wrong the Spurs would have to have brought back the exact same team?
Oh man, you're good at hedging.
And tax had nothing to do with this thread.
You said they'd make a big splash. Signing a bargain bin guy is not a big splash.
They outmaneuvered me by signing Elson?
Okay.
What would the Spurs ever have done without those one point and one rebound per game by the first player in Spurs championship history to get permanently benched during a playoff run?
I think we got a pretty good idea by watching the other four series.
How can timvp be owning me when he as much admits this thread is about the salary cap...and it's about upgrading the roster?
Nevermind...you can't read anyway.
Everyone has tried to make this thread about the Spurs getting under the cap...and thread has always been about the Spurs coming out of this offseason upgraded...by trade, by FA signing, by getting under the cap etc.
TimVP wants it to be about something else...but it isn't about something else.
And saying he wanted the Spurs to add Udoka doesn't get him out of being owned for saying they wouldn't do anything this offseason.
You claim you were vindicated in ripping Elson and you've jocked Bonner from day 1...
Well, Elson played in the playoffs...Bonner warmed the bench.
Don't you see that?
Do you see any mention of Bonner or Elson in there? You must be getting owned by your inner conscious.
For the millionth time, Udoka = "not doing much".
So wait...you advocated the Spurs not doing much then? Is that what you are saying? Since Udoka = not doing much....and you advocated him?
What part of, it upgrades the team don't you understand?It's the same damn take. Signing a guy for less than half the MLE is "not doing much". What is making you not understand this?
What part of....they had the offer to him for a long time...before they knew the extent of the cap space they'd have...allegedly...if you got a link proving otherwise please provide it.
LMAO...So you are an admitted hedger.
Congrats.
So are you...Mr. I said sign Udoka do nothing.
Fact...you never mentioned them dropping Butler and Scola as part of the 08 plan...Fact #3. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka to help preserve The 2008 Plan.
Signing Udoka would have fit into The 2008 Plan.
Fact...adding a multi year contract of any kind this offseason goes against the 08 plan as you presented it when being critical.
Hey...What indicates they are going to do something is that they have like three open roster spots.![]()
It's not about salary cap for the upteenth time...it's about the upgrading the team this offseason.Worried about the tax? Where did you pull that out of? This thread is about salary cap. Not the tax.
You are an FO sucker. You think they can do no wrong.
Mmm....I was pretty critical of them not signing Jack, going after Kidd etc...
But other than that, yeah I've been happy with them.
, 2 of those years have been les and the one that wasn't was the offseason everyone loved..signing Finley and NVE after winning a championship.
I'll agree on all those points except Rasho...Pop didn't play Rasho in any post season except 04..Marcus Williams looks like a bust of a pick. They wasted years and years on Melvin Sanders. The Rasho signing cost them at least one championship. They are good but they make mistakes.
Ok so he got buttraped by Shaq...who didn't?
The FO isn't infallible...but they consistently outsmart this board...and I don't see how any one can claim otherwise.You can think that the FO is infallible. I think they are human.
I'll stick with my way of thinking, thanks.
I just wait until I see who they get...you prejudged this offseason before it even happened...you are more worried about being over the cap and paying hte tax that actually seeing an upgraded team.
Talk about hedging...
Fact...timvp TimVP probably wanted the Spurs to go after Dwayne Wade this offseason...that doesn't mean if they'd done a trade for him you'd be off the hook for the criticisms you have made all season long of the so called 2008 Master Plan and the Spurs FO for pursuing it.Fact #2. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka before it was reported that the Spurs were going after Udoka.
You saying you wanted them to do something doesn't mean you weren't wrong about their intentions this offseason.
Nor does anything that has transpired yet...
In fact...they did do a major trade this offseason...
Whottt was right.
I never said the plan was to get under the cap...I said the plan was to move this offseason...not next...I said they would upgrade this offseason.
And how does signing Udoka to a multi year help the 2008 master plan more than not signing him?
THe only thing that's been proven this offseason is that teams made stupid offers to some SF we might have been interested in...
I never said the Spurs were going to overpay for someone...
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You're not even making sense anymore. If you want to hold scoreboard for a guy I wanted who hasn't even been signed yet, I guess I can't stop you.
The big splash = potentially signing Udoka. Congrats. Can't get anything by Sonic the Whottt.
whottt: "I totally meant to fart in front of everybody, I swear!"
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And yes...that is what you are essentially saying.
I said they'd move this offseason to upgrade the team..that's what I said...that's what they are doing.
Period.
That's not me getting owned...
Neither is the fact that the Grizzlies drove Noc's price out of a reasonable range and Paxon stupidly wants to have 15 SF on his roster.
No owning has occurred yet...period.
Again, you said you were getting owned due to Elson and Bonner. They weren't even part of this thread.
I advocated him because he was reasonable and fit into what I thought the Spurs would do.
What part of he fit into their long range plans no matter what happened do you not understand?
Trading away two assets and cutting another while signing a bargain bin SF = nothing.
Why would I want that horrible trade on my resume?
And you can't even talk about Butler anymore. He went from "verifiable steal" to "mentally handicap fat ass who can't talk" after the trade.
Actually not. They'd be charged for an empty roster spot anyways so they wouldn't save much money by not signing a cheap bargain bin player like Udoka.
But yeah, I know. You're not a "cap guy"
Giving away three assets and signing a player who fit the 2008 plan is not an upgrade, Sonic.
You also said Nazr hurt their chances at a championship. You cried when they waived Heal. You threw half the team under the bus in this thread.
Don't try to play the homer card now. You've ed as much as anyone.
Well, you've always been wrong about Rasho. I guess it's too late to change now.
If they aren't infallible that means they can make mistakes and that means that someone can point out their mistakes. Thanks for seeing the light
Yeah, because timvp doesn't want the Spurs to get better. WTF are you smoking?
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