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    Like you said, those threads are gone. We'll never know what you did or did not say.

    Yet that doesn't stop you from saying Coyote > Drob in arguments does it...

    Link?

    Funny...everyone says that to me...and no one knows why...



    And I don't really care because you've been served enough ownage for one thread.
    LOL!








    And that above post I wasn't agreeing with either you or BH. I was just posting what I found.
    Thanks...and you know what's funny....even the admin suck ass Buddy seems to understand that quote doesn't mean the Coyote did more...

    So he's forced to rely on his lies to justify the fact that he wasn't here...






    Hilarious...

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    LMAO...you guys think I was serching for Udoka stuff or something...

    I was searching for the Coyote Drob thread...


    Oh..timvp, you said Udoka sucks in chat and the Spurs wouldn't do anything in chat...


    Link that, Buddy.

    Enough ownership for this thread I guess...

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    Hmmm searching Udoka the only thing of interst I've found yet is that it was Chump that brought him to your attention...

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    Yet that doesn't stop you from saying Coyote > Drob in arguments does it...

    Link?

    Funny...everyone says that to me...and no one knows why...
    Coyote > Drob

    Yeah, no kidding. It has been pretty funny



    Thanks...and you know what's funny....even the admin suck ass Buddy seems to understand that quote doesn't mean the Coyote did more...

    So he's forced to rely on his lies to justify the fact that he wasn't here...

    Hilarious...
    Just about as hilarious as you dodging my questions for the 11th time.

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    LMAO...you guys think I was serching for Udoka stuff or something...

    I was searching for the Coyote Drob thread...


    Oh..timvp, you said Udoka sucks in chat and the Spurs wouldn't do anything in chat...


    Link that, Buddy.

    Enough ownership for this thread I guess...
    Meltdown has started . . .

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    Hmmm searching Udoka the only thing of interst I've found yet is that it was Chump that brought him to your attention...


    ChumpDumper listing his name back in 2005 or whatever with 10-day contract candidates isn't the same thing as saying you want the Spurs to sign him this summer.

    But keep dodging.

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    Meltdown has started . . .

    Um...what am I supposed to do...you continually claim scoreboard for Bonner and Elson...even though, Bonner's didn't do in the post season and Elson got regular minutes...

    Exactly how is that any kind of ownership?


    Additionally, saying the Spurs would get Udoka...whether you said it or not, doesn't change the fact that you said the Spurs were not going to do much this offseason...

    That's a hedge plain and simple...just becuase you said 2 different things doesn't mean you have a consisten POV.


    It's like me saying Cavs in 5 but throwing a, if Bowen keeps LeBron in the realm of mortals Spurs will sweep, qualifier out there...


    The difference is...my qualifier was dead on accurate.


    Fact...the Spurs have been rumored to be interested in Udoka before any payroll trimming trades were done, before White was waived...

    That seems to indicate they were going to add something, whether the trades went through or not...

    In contrast to you and MB's claims they wouldn't do anything becuase they'd be too worried about the tax.


    Secondly...

    I want you to give me a link that they didn't try and aquire a better SF...



    Who's better than Udoka that they had the money to sign? Or that they could have gotten in trade?


    That's what you need to prove...otherwise, it's just undeserved FO bashing. A FO that consistently outthinks and outmanuevers all the experts on this board....Reggie.


    And please do link to the Coyote>Drob stuff in retaliation for Reggie...it'd be nice for you to at least understand why you are saying it...

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    ChumpDumper listing his name back in 2005 or whatever with 10-day contract candidates isn't the same thing as saying you want the Spurs to sign him this summer.

    But keep dodging.

    I said the Spurs would upgrade inspite of what you guys were saying about them dodging the tax...


    All that has to happen for you to be right is for them to stand pat...

    Why are you so worried that isn't going to happen? Because you said all year the tax would be the priority? And I said the Spurs FO would outmanuever you and MB?

    Like they did last season...


    <insert part where TimVP claims vindication on Bonner and Elson, even though Bonner did less than Rasho in the post season and Elson didn't........


    And we'll never know how much of an impact Elson would have had against the Mavs...

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    Um...what am I supposed to do...you continually claim scoreboard for Bonner and Elson...even though, Bonner's didn't do in the post season and Elson got regular minutes...
    Link to where I claimed scoreboard over you regarding Elson and Bonner in this thread?

    Stop making things up.

    Exactly how is that any kind of ownership?
    Are you trying to own yourself? Who is owning you on those points? This is what I said:

    You got owned on your changed view of Butler. You got owned on your throwing Bowen, Horry and Oberto under the bus before the playoffs started. You got owned when all along you gave the Spurs no chance to win a championship. You got owned when you said Brent Barry's contract could be opted out on this summer. You got owned when you said that the Spurs would have salary cap space. You got owned when you predicted Cavs in 5.
    Do you see any mention of Bonner or Elson in there? You must be getting owned by your inner conscious.

    Additionally, saying the Spurs would get Udoka...whether you said it or not, doesn't change the fact that you said the Spurs were not going to do much this offseason...

    That's a hedge plain and simple...just becuase you said 2 different things doesn't mean you have a consisten POV.
    For the millionth time, Udoka = "not doing much".

    It's the same damn take. Signing a guy for less than half the MLE is "not doing much". What is making you not understand this?

    It's like me saying Cavs in 5 but throwing a, if Bowen keeps LeBron in the realm of mortals Spurs will sweep, qualifier out there...


    The difference is...my qualifier was dead on accurate.
    So you are an admitted hedger.

    Congrats.

    Fact...the Spurs have been rumored to be interested in Udoka before any payroll trimming trades were done, before White was waived...
    Fact #2. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka before it was reported that the Spurs were going after Udoka.

    Fact #3. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka to help preserve The 2008 Plan.

    Signing Udoka would have fit into The 2008 Plan.

    That seems to indicate they were going to add something, whether the trades went through or not...
    What indicates they are going to do something is that they have like three open roster spots.


    In contrast to you and MB's claims they wouldn't do anything becuase they'd be too worried about the tax.
    Worried about the tax? Where did you pull that out of? This thread is about salary cap. Not the tax.

    Secondly...

    I want you to give me a link that they didn't try and aquire a better SF...
    http://www.google.com


    Who's better than Udoka that they had the money to sign? Or that they could have gotten in trade?
    Desmond Mason. Morris Peterson. Matt Barnes.

    Need more?

    That's what you need to prove...otherwise, it's just undeserved FO bashing. A FO that consistently outthinks and outmanuevers all the experts on this board....Reggie.
    You are an FO sucker. You think they can do no wrong.

    Marcus Williams looks like a bust of a pick. They wasted years and years on Melvin Sanders. The Rasho signing cost them at least one championship. They are good but they make mistakes.

    You can think that the FO is infallible. I think they are human.

    I'll stick with my way of thinking, thanks.


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    timvp served you a nice hot

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    I said the Spurs would upgrade inspite of what you guys were saying about them dodging the tax...

    All that has to happen for you to be right is for them to stand pat...
    So for you to be wrong the Spurs would have to have brought back the exact same team?

    Oh man, you're good at hedging.

    And tax had nothing to do with this thread.

    Why are you so worried that isn't going to happen? Because you said all year the tax would be the priority? And I said the Spurs FO would outmanuever you and MB?
    You said they'd make a big splash. Signing a bargain bin guy is not a big splash.

    Like they did last season...
    They outmaneuvered me by signing Elson?

    Okay.

    <insert part where TimVP claims vindication on Bonner and Elson, even though Bonner did less than Rasho in the post season and Elson didn't........
    What would the Spurs ever have done without those one point and one rebound per game by the first player in Spurs championship history to get permanently benched during a playoff run?

    And we'll never know how much of an impact Elson would have had against the Mavs...
    I think we got a pretty good idea by watching the other four series.

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    How can timvp be owning me when he as much admits this thread is about the salary cap...and it's about upgrading the roster?


    Nevermind...you can't read anyway.





    Everyone has tried to make this thread about the Spurs getting under the cap...and thread has always been about the Spurs coming out of this offseason upgraded...by trade, by FA signing, by getting under the cap etc.

    TimVP wants it to be about something else...but it isn't about something else.

    And saying he wanted the Spurs to add Udoka doesn't get him out of being owned for saying they wouldn't do anything this offseason.

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    Link to where I claimed scoreboard over you regarding Elson and Bonner in this thread?

    Stop making things up.
    You claim you were vindicated in ripping Elson and you've jocked Bonner from day 1...

    Well, Elson played in the playoffs...Bonner warmed the bench.


    Don't you see that?



    Do you see any mention of Bonner or Elson in there? You must be getting owned by your inner conscious.

    For the millionth time, Udoka = "not doing much".

    So wait...you advocated the Spurs not doing much then? Is that what you are saying? Since Udoka = not doing much....and you advocated him?



    It's the same damn take. Signing a guy for less than half the MLE is "not doing much". What is making you not understand this?
    What part of, it upgrades the team don't you understand?

    What part of....they had the offer to him for a long time...before they knew the extent of the cap space they'd have...allegedly...if you got a link proving otherwise please provide it.


    So you are an admitted hedger.

    Congrats.
    LMAO...

    So are you...Mr. I said sign Udoka do nothing.


    Fact #3. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka to help preserve The 2008 Plan.

    Signing Udoka would have fit into The 2008 Plan.
    Fact...you never mentioned them dropping Butler and Scola as part of the 08 plan...

    Fact...adding a multi year contract of any kind this offseason goes against the 08 plan as you presented it when being critical.



    What indicates they are going to do something is that they have like three open roster spots.
    Hey...

    Worried about the tax? Where did you pull that out of? This thread is about salary cap. Not the tax.
    It's not about salary cap for the upteenth time...it's about the upgrading the team this offseason.



    You are an FO sucker. You think they can do no wrong.

    Mmm....I was pretty critical of them not signing Jack, going after Kidd etc...

    But other than that, yeah I've been happy with them.


    , 2 of those years have been les and the one that wasn't was the offseason everyone loved..signing Finley and NVE after winning a championship.

    Marcus Williams looks like a bust of a pick. They wasted years and years on Melvin Sanders. The Rasho signing cost them at least one championship. They are good but they make mistakes.
    I'll agree on all those points except Rasho...Pop didn't play Rasho in any post season except 04..

    Ok so he got buttraped by Shaq...who didn't?

    You can think that the FO is infallible. I think they are human.

    I'll stick with my way of thinking, thanks.
    The FO isn't infallible...but they consistently outsmart this board...and I don't see how any one can claim otherwise.



    I just wait until I see who they get...you prejudged this offseason before it even happened...you are more worried about being over the cap and paying hte tax that actually seeing an upgraded team.

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    Talk about hedging...

    Fact #2. timvp wanted the Spurs to go after Udoka before it was reported that the Spurs were going after Udoka.
    Fact...timvp TimVP probably wanted the Spurs to go after Dwayne Wade this offseason...that doesn't mean if they'd done a trade for him you'd be off the hook for the criticisms you have made all season long of the so called 2008 Master Plan and the Spurs FO for pursuing it.


    You saying you wanted them to do something doesn't mean you weren't wrong about their intentions this offseason.


    Nor does anything that has transpired yet...


    In fact...they did do a major trade this offseason...

    Whottt was right.


    I never said the plan was to get under the cap...I said the plan was to move this offseason...not next...I said they would upgrade this offseason.



    And how does signing Udoka to a multi year help the 2008 master plan more than not signing him?

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    THe only thing that's been proven this offseason is that teams made stupid offers to some SF we might have been interested in...

    I never said the Spurs were going to overpay for someone...

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    How can timvp be owning me when he as much admits this thread is about the salary cap...and it's about upgrading the roster?


    Nevermind...you can't read anyway.





    Everyone has tried to make this thread about the Spurs getting under the cap...and thread has always been about the Spurs coming out of this offseason upgraded...by trade, by FA signing, by getting under the cap etc.

    TimVP wants it to be about something else...but it isn't about something else.

    And saying he wanted the Spurs to add Udoka doesn't get him out of being owned for saying they wouldn't do anything this offseason.


    You're not even making sense anymore. If you want to hold scoreboard for a guy I wanted who hasn't even been signed yet, I guess I can't stop you.

    The big splash = potentially signing Udoka. Congrats. Can't get anything by Sonic the Whottt.

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    I hate the 2008 Master Plan and Holt's cheapness...that said, I've been in favor of it all long and never criticized it.


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    Udoka doesn't upgrade the roster....that said, I wanted them to do it

    x2

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    The Spurs could have traded Butler, Brent Barry and Scola for Noccioni...but they didn't do it because they didn't want to pay the tax and wanted to wait until 08.

    x 3


    And yes...that is what you are essentially saying.


    I said they'd move this offseason to upgrade the team..that's what I said...that's what they are doing.

    Period.

    That's not me getting owned...

    Neither is the fact that the Grizzlies drove Noc's price out of a reasonable range and Paxon stupidly wants to have 15 SF on his roster.



    No owning has occurred yet...period.

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    You claim you were vindicated in ripping Elson and you've jocked Bonner from day 1...

    Well, Elson played in the playoffs...Bonner warmed the bench.


    Don't you see that?
    Again, you said you were getting owned due to Elson and Bonner. They weren't even part of this thread.



    So wait...you advocated the Spurs not doing much then? Is that what you are saying? Since Udoka = not doing much....and you advocated him?
    I advocated him because he was reasonable and fit into what I thought the Spurs would do.


    What part of, it upgrades the team don't you understand?

    What part of....they had the offer to him for a long time...before they knew the extent of the cap space they'd have...allegedly...if you got a link proving otherwise please provide it.
    What part of he fit into their long range plans no matter what happened do you not understand?


    LMAO...

    So are you...Mr. I said sign Udoka do nothing.
    Trading away two assets and cutting another while signing a bargain bin SF = nothing.


    Fact...you never mentioned them dropping Butler and Scola as part of the 08 plan...


    Why would I want that horrible trade on my resume?

    And you can't even talk about Butler anymore. He went from "verifiable steal" to "mentally handicap fat ass who can't talk" after the trade.

    Fact...adding a multi year contract of any kind this offseason goes against the 08 plan as you presented it when being critical.
    Actually not. They'd be charged for an empty roster spot anyways so they wouldn't save much money by not signing a cheap bargain bin player like Udoka.

    But yeah, I know. You're not a "cap guy"

    Hey...

    It's not about salary cap for the upteenth time...it's about the upgrading the team this offseason.
    Giving away three assets and signing a player who fit the 2008 plan is not an upgrade, Sonic.

    Mmm....I was pretty critical of them not signing Jack, going after Kidd etc...

    But other than that, yeah I've been happy with them.
    You also said Nazr hurt their chances at a championship. You cried when they waived Heal. You threw half the team under the bus in this thread.

    , 2 of those years have been les and the one that wasn't was the offseason everyone loved..signing Finley and NVE after winning a championship.
    Don't try to play the homer card now. You've ed as much as anyone.


    I'll agree on all those points except Rasho...Pop didn't play Rasho in any post season except 04..
    Well, you've always been wrong about Rasho. I guess it's too late to change now.


    The FO isn't infallible...but they consistently outsmart this board...and I don't see how any one can claim otherwise.
    If they aren't infallible that means they can make mistakes and that means that someone can point out their mistakes. Thanks for seeing the light

    I just wait until I see who they get...you prejudged this offseason before it even happened...you are more worried about being over the cap and paying hte tax that actually seeing an upgraded team.
    Yeah, because timvp doesn't want the Spurs to get better. WTF are you smoking?

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