It amazes me the lengths people will go to in order to defend OR condemn stupid comments.
This brings out the worst in everybody.
I dont like Stern's show, but someone quoted him, and he said it best...
" you, it was a joke. Get over it."
I dont like the comment(s), but he doesnt hold public office. He wasnt elected. He pulls ratings.
Sorry, but thats all that matters. He'll serve his two week suspension, return, and pull bigger numbers. Congratulations on doing nothing at all.
I just don't know how we can hope for some kind of change as long as "other people have done worse" continues to be seen as a legitimate excuse.
Didn't the "Rev" jesse jackson cheat on his wife? to me that's a little worse than what Imus said
its clear to me racism ain't going away anytime soon.....
QFT.
Every time something like this happens there comes a point (which is about where this one is now) where the media and the talking heads that are throwing themselves in front of the cameras start saying that we can use this opportunity to start a "national dialogue" about this sort of thing. And it never ing happens. The media gets distracted covering who is banging who in Hollywood and other less important crap, the talkers go and find a new issue that they can get on TV for, and the nation as a whole goes back to sleep until another jackass says something stupid in public.
Only one solution to this issue: All-Out Race War.
Racism has existed from time immoral and will continue
to the end of time. Prejudice is a ditto.
Race s will always be there to take advantage of it.
The difference between some years back and now is that
people in yesteryear knew it existed and made fun of it.
Indeed some comedians made a career of it.
And now it is offensive, like it hasn't always, and we can
wipe it out. Not possible. Why? because people are people
and us folks in the US aren't the only people in the world
that displays these traits. I mean have you noticed the
Muslim terrorist lately. Racism exist in all races. That
is a fact, whether you want to admit it or not.
Everyone displays prejudice, not because of race, but
because they just plain don't like some people regardless
of their race.
They are two different issues. But people want to keep
grouping the two into "hate". It is not possible.
And I guess once white people in the U.S. have been thrown into slavery, treated like animals, been used as props for politicians seeking votes, been hanged and dragged by pickup trucks, had firehoses sprayed at them and police dogs attack them, and been told that the only reason they get jobs isn't cuz they're intelligent or qualified enough but rather because of affirmative action, maybe after all that they'll see what the "big deal" is.
Please none of the "were you a slave??!?!" dumb reasoning. First off, i'm white. Second off, the reason like this is a big deal is because it's an extension of the same at ude of the general white public that existed in slavery days and Jim Crow days - that white people are somehow superior to blacks. So if you've got issues with what I have to say, shove it up your ass.
Now this is an example of "prejudice". This is not
racism.
Thank you for the post.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/racism
Main Entry: rac·ism
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
I know a group of white people that were baked alive in ovens, starved to death, and marked for extermination. People have been persecuted for far more things than race, but yet this is the thing society harps on to an obnoxious level.
The racial aspect is just a rouse - a ploy by the Jacksons and Sharptons of the world to once again get themselves in the limelight. At the core of the matter, this is a sexist issue and not a racial one.
Where in American History did that happen? And since when have Jews had a "whites only" policy in their religion?
definitely alot of truth to this.
My biggest problem with the media coverage and the pe ions for his firing is that it's disproportionate to other scandals that have taken place on radio/tv.
For example, Rush Limbaugh went on the air accusing Michael J. Fox of playing up his Parkinson's disease for political reasons...even including a nice little demonstration. He made fun of a man's terminal disease! Yes, he was lambasted in the media, and yes he had to make several apologies and concessions, but he's still on the air today. I'm not saying it's right, but a precedent for overstepping the line has been set, so why should Imus get fired because the topic happened to be racial and gender sensitive? I'll tell you why, because the African American community has a stronger pull in the media and politics through activists like Shartpon, Jackson, and the powerful NAACP. If Imus had joked about nearly any other subject, the calls for his firing and the media backlash wouldn't be nearly as severe....and that's wrong.
I don't excuse what Imus did, but why should there be a double-standard when it comes to racially motivated issues?
1) Where in American History? SEE... World War II
The Jews are not "whites only", but the vast majority of the German Jews that were slaughtered by the SS pre-WWII were white. , the vast majority of European Jews who were persecuted were white, and the majority of American Jews who fought the Nazis were white. You are actually making my point. People are persecuted for far more things besides race, and IMO some relic saying the words "nappy headed" doesn't cons ute a criminal act akin to slavery or the holocaust. The drama queen syndrome is in full effect.
There's definitely alot of truth to this, and there's also a big double-standard even in racial issues. Native Americans have been ed over just as much as blacks in this country, but somehow the only thing they get offered is "hey we'll advise high schools to stop using stereotypical images for their sports mascots"...but whatever.
I don't know if what Imus said is really all that horrible...it was stupid and racist for sure, and he definitely deserves the he's catching for it...and maybe it's being blown out of proportion but whatever. What shocks me is just how many people think he didn't do anything wrong or that this is simply a "PC" issue.
Please read your post. Especially 2. racial prejudice.
Your contention is that that is the only way you can have
a prejudice. Hmmmmm, very strange. You look up
racism to find the definition of prejudice. You mean
you only dislike people because of their race?
Do you like all foods?
Do you like everyone you work with?
Do you like all shows on TV?
Do you like all movies produced?
Do you like everywhere you visit?
No, then maybe you display a prejudice. Or dislike for
some things or people based on personal taste or traits.
Where in America do these places where Jews were baked in ovens exist? We're talking American history and American issues here...I really don't care what Germany is doing.
Again, in my opinion race relations in other countries doesn't apply to what's going on in the U.S. What happened in other countries, whether more or less atrocious than what went on in the States, is their own issue to deal with. This issue here is something exclusive to White Americans and Black Americans and the history between those two groups.
And yeah, it's no criminal act, and there's been far more racist things said in the media (by black and white both)...but he's still definitely wrong for what he said.
what the are you talking about? Prejudice and racism are not synonymous, I don't see where I ever claimed that they were. maybe you're the one that needs to read posts a little more carefully.
He made stupid statements, but what's new. He said no
more than what all the rapers say in damn near every
rap CD they put out. And they are revered. Hey, you
put this stuff out in the public for public consumption and
this is what comes back. I don't approve of it for anyone
rapper or Imus, it is wrong.
I am just listening the announcement that the cases
against three "rich" white guys at Duke are being
dismissed. How do they get their reputation back and
the wealth they have expended.
Where the was the press in this case. Would you
call this racism or prejudice.
You don't see instances from other parts of the world as evidence of human nature that permeates our society as well? That's strange, especially since Imperialism has been thrown out the window for about, well, 100 years or so. I hate to break it to you, but our major problems in this country are with matters pertaining to the rest of the world, not Don Imus.
The fact of the matter is that these issues will never go away. We are a petty race (i.e. human race), as a whole we are selfish and self-serving with not much regard for our surroundings. Our governments are corrupt and people in a position of power will continously oppress those without power. It's been going on for thousands of years, and will until the last human stands on earth. That said, to think Don Imus calling some college kids nappy headed is some kind of huge injustice while the same people crying wolf are perpetrating corruption and falsehood is as ridiculous as it gets. Sure, he shouldn't have said it, but it really isn't that big of a deal.
So family 1 has a husband, wife, and two children. family 2 also has a husband, wife, and two children. therefore, every issue that occurs within family 1 can be resolved in the exact same fashion that issues are resolved within 2.....right?
it doesn't matter that family 1 is upper-class and from upstate New York and family 2 lives in a trailer park in Alabama....because they both have a husband, wife, and 2 children, they're equal and all problems that exist in one family surely exist exactly the same in the other family, and all problems should be resolved in the exact same manner.....right?
sure, there's some "human nature" involved in this. And there's racism all around the world. But the situation and cir stances between White Americans and Black Americans cannot be looked at or resolved in the same manner as issues between Black Canadians and White Canadians, or Jews and Germans, or Muslims and Hindus, or anything else.
And I agree with you here. This shouldn't be made into a huge issue, and it's stupid that it's turned into one. The thing that shocks me is simply that people want to treat this like he did nothing wrong and that the only problem going on here is that America is "too P.C."
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