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    If the Spurs win the Championship this year and the media starts on about an * next year I will simply insert my brand new 2007 Championship DVD and let the good times roll.

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    And was anyone else annoyed at Bernie Fryer's constant "I'll call the foul if the guy misses the layup" routine? Happened twice for the Suns, with Marion receiving benefit in the 1st and Thomas getting the call in 3rd or 4th... then Duncan got the call late in the 4th and drained both FTs before missing the 2 on the play that wasn't really "off-the-ball" no matter what Pop thought.
    I don't mind the late whistle. I don't have a problem with an official deciding that a foul is worth a no-call if the shot goes in and worth a call if it doesn't. It saves the defensive player from an unnecessary foul if the basket goes in and the offensive player doesn't really deserve a three point play.

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    #2 - people elsewhere and on this message board blasted the officials in Game 4 for not calling the touch foul by Finley on Nash that led to this whole Flagrant 2/Suspension mess in the first place, so with the shot clock already off, they were probably ready with a quick whistle
    By the way, I've seen another angle of the play since then. Finley completely whiffed on Nash. The Suns and their fans would have been screaming that the fix was in if they'd called that.

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    By the way, I've seen another angle of the play since then. Finley completely whiffed on Nash. The Suns and their fans would have been screaming that the fix was in if they'd called that.
    Well, I don't know how many of us would have been THAT upset to see Steve going to the FT with under 24 seconds left in the game and a 3 pt lead.

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    I don't mind the late whistle. I don't have a problem with an official deciding that a foul is worth a no-call if the shot goes in and worth a call if it doesn't. It saves the defensive player from an unnecessary foul if the basket goes in and the offensive player doesn't really deserve a three point play.
    Yeah, but they were some weak fouls, nonetheless... for both teams - I see your point and I've employed the same tactic in reffing high school games, but I'm getting paid peanuts compared to what NBA veteran refs are getting paid A LOT. On top of that, high school kids can be stupid sometimes, so you don't want to foul out the whole team... as long as the parents stay off my ass, I usually have a more patient whistle.

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    Yeah, but they were some weak fouls, nonetheless... for both teams - I see your point and I've employed the same tactic in reffing high school games, but I'm getting paid peanuts compared to what NBA veteran refs are getting paid A LOT. On top of that, high school kids can be stupid sometimes, so you don't want to foul out the whole team... as long as the parents stay off my ass, I usually have a more patient whistle.
    It's just that sometimes a guy deserves two points for a shot but not three, so sitting a little longer on the whistle is okay in my opinion. It's funny that the defensive players get angry at the late whistles since it means that they almost got away with it.

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    It's just that sometimes a guy deserves two points for a shot but not three, so sitting a little longer on the whistle is okay in my opinion. It's funny that the defensive players get angry at the late whistles since it means that they almost got away with it.
    Oh, no doubt about it, but there's a sense of cheapness about it. Like when Duncan got the call late in the game, I was already ecstatic that it was coming off the rim. And when the Suns got the calls, I felt a little guilty that they were getting "bailed out" like that.

    However, the defender definitely gets upset because it's like on Christmas morning when you think you're getting a Sega Genesis only to find out it's Encyclopedia Britannica... you're all excited and then the whistle blows and you start pouting on camera...

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    The ESPN Hack says the championship will be forever tainted if the Suns don't advance from this round. This thought, at least at this point in the series, can only come from someone void rational thought or full of alterior motive.

    As NBA Fans we need to insist on a clear statement of fact about this series. If you toss out game 5 all together the Spurs and Suns would be tied 2 - 2. And while I give the Suns credit for the game 4 victory, any who watched the game knows the Spurs had controll of that entire game and should have been up 3 - 1 after 4 games. After a series of phantom calls and no calls and a few bone headed plays by the Spurs kept the game close, the Suns in "NBA Speak" were able to "steal" their play for the entire game demonstrated they did not deserve.

    If the Horry short Spurs manage to beat the Suns in game 6, the Spurs would have beaten the full strenth Suns 3 - 2 and had been a sliver from a 4 - 1 series spanking in games where the Suns were at full strength and the Spurs were missing clutch Horry in the game 6 closeout game.

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    I didn't get how, say Detroit, winning the championship would be labeled with a ?, and how the league staying consistent over the leave the bunch rule is manipulating the rules to fit its own agenda.
    Wouldn't NOT suspending Stoudemire or Diaw be manipulating the rules to benefit superstars? But then again, emotion always trumps logic.

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    And while I give the Suns credit for the game 4 victory, any who watched the game knows the Spurs had controll of that entire game and should have been up 3 - 1 after 4 games.
    And anyone who watched game five knew the Suns had control the entire game, so what is your point?

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