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    I'd much rather make a trade to move up in the draft and roll the dice on a guy like Mike Conley Jr. than use those same trading chips in the hopes that Kidd's body will hold up long enough to maybe win a le.
    Or Acie Law! "That's what I do! That's what I do!"

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    They both had a great series. Neither team had an answer for the other's superstar. I think everybody agrees that Duncan is a better player than Dirk. So what's your point?
    my point is dirk owns no one, nothing, nada...

    not any one team(especially not the spurs), not a ring, and definitely not that spurs/mavs series! if dirk owns anything it's that bunk ass mvp award that he got out of pitty, that bs 2006 wcf banner he got out of pitty, and that hasselhoff album he got from sucking david's .

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    When is Finley's contract with the Spurs up?

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    Kidd is a pretty good defender and a trio of him, Dirk and Howard, with Diop and Dampier to protect the rim is pretty formidable. Harris and Terry telegraph their passes and they don't create good shot opportunities for their teammates. Kidd is a huge upgrade over either of them. Only problem with Terry gone is that now you need an outside shooter, but we can probably get a Steve Kerr type for the MLE. As for Dirk and Nash together, they are both a lot better than when they played together. The Mavs also didn't have any interior defense whatsoever to speak of when Nash was here.

    Even if we left the team alone, I would be fine with that. Phoenix is going to shake things up for financial reasons and it's premature to say that the Warriors are back to being perennial playoff contenders. They have a number of FA's and Nellie may not come back. The Spurs however are going to be there every year and we match up to you guys in the same way that the Warriors match up to us. I'd rather construct a roster to beat San Antonio (which is what we did) as opposed to blowing things up so we can beat a team like Golden State.
    I think Terry was huge in the spurs' demise. His outside shoot killed us. I remember trying to get a lead and he would come back with a 3 or so. For me it was the blueprint of that series.

    On another note, I don't think building a team to beat san antonio is smart. It would only work if you ever get to play with them but statistically that's a 1/3 chance. Look what happened now with GS.

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    my point is dirk owns no one, nothing, nada...

    not any one team(especially not the spurs), not a ring, and definitely not that spurs/mavs series! if dirk owns anything it's that bunk ass mvp award that he got out of pitty, that bs 2006 wcf banner he got out of pitty, and that hasselhoff album he got from sucking david's .
    Okay, so mark you down for the shallow pool and never pay any attention to whatever you say again.

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    On another note, I don't think building a team to beat san antonio is smart. It would only work if you ever get to play with them but statistically that's a 1/3 chance. Look what happened now with GS.
    They're the lone heavyweight in a league full of bantomweights. If you keep advancing, sooner or later you're going to run into them.

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    They're the lone heavyweight in a league full of bantomweights. If you keep advancing, sooner or later you're going to run into them.
    I don't get your logic really, with all due respect. If you can't get to them, why would you build around beating them. You need to get players that can play all styles, not just beat the big favorite. And on that line, very few had the spurs as favorites (from the I-know-it-all press reporters). Spurs play all tempos, all styles if they want. They don't pull out any crazy recipes in the playoffs, they just keep doing what they did during the season just with more determination. Some teams change a lot of what they do during hte season to accomodate, including roster changes, etc. Not that this is Mavs situation.

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    I don't get your logic really, with all due respect. If you can't get to them, why would you build around beating them.
    Because this is only the second time in the Dirk era that the Mavs have gotten bounced in the first round. Because they've faced the Spurs three times and counting in the playoffs.

    You need to get players that can play all styles, not just beat the big favorite.
    And for the most part the Mavs can do that. Dallas speeds up the tempo and tries to run against San Antonio, and they try to slow it down against Phoenix. When it comes to the Warriors, Terry and Harris just get punished repeatedly against B-Diddy and Richardson. And while we're throwing Dirk under the bus, let's make room for Jet and Avery too. Jet for not knocking down shots since he can't distribute to begin with, and Avery for not playing his regular rotation and lineup. There's a balance between adjusting to your opponent because of what they present as far as matchup problems and completely mixing things up.

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    MIke should back only to visit ols friends and show them how a NBA's ring looks like!!!

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    and yeah, i agree, booing finley was classless, i felt so bad for him but then again, i'm not necessarily surprised because there are some asshole fans out there
    Finley's one of my alltime favorite Mavs, I love him and it's time for him to get his ring. But uh yeah, he has $18 million of Mark Cuban's money with which to soothe any hurt feelings.

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    It's good to see Cuban's jealously of the Spurs continues.

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    that! I love the son of a for the work he put in here but sadly he wont be as clutch with us as he is with the spurs. Dirk rubs off on other players in the worst way while Duncan doesnt. It pains me to say that but it is the harsh truth!

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    I thought the booing for Finley was pretty pervasive, which suggests to me one of two possibilities: (1) I happened upon a playoff game that happened to be infiltrated by a lot of bandwagoners who don't have a clue about the NBA; or (2) Mavs' fans, by and large, don't get it. Either possibility casts Mavs fans in a pretty bad light.
    It was wrong but I don't think it's that big a deal. Context is everything. When he came back the first time, he was a reserve and got a very loud and long standing ovation when he checked in for the first time. Dirk had made some comments in jest about booing Finley because it was the playoffs and it got into the newspapers. Why is this relevant?

    I was reading on Golden State of Mind about how the crowds for the second round series against Utah were not as boisterous or loud as the ones against the Mavericks. And so what happened after the plucky Warriors knocked off a 67 win anic on the basketball court? All of the sudden lowerbowl seats at the Oracle for going for much, much more because you guessed it, a bunch of rich bandwagoners decided they'd start going to playoff games. It's very hard to get playoff tickets here in Dallas at something I can afford. Even regular season games against good draws like stars or rivals follow the same dynamic as playoff games. I was able to see Bron Bron this year but I was lucky to find something in my price range. Usually I'd have to go to a game against the Hawks or Grizzlies. And it seems like the seats that are made available at face value by the club go too quick. So as that relates to the AAC, I'm not surprised our playoff crowds suck, or that the fans are clueless and fickle.

    I consider the situations, as a Spurs fan, that I've faced with old Spurs coming back to San Antonio. Almost universally, players who were on our great teams are greeted with loud applause when they return to San Antonio.
    Nash has been welcomed back warmly, Van Exel and others have as well, and even Finley got his nice reception, and it was from a regular season crowd, probably comprised of more diehards, since this was a November regular season contest. In May it's more of a cocaine and boob job group north of 635.

    My sole experience in Dallas was made miserable by boorish behavior
    Ditto my experience at the Alamodome. Have no idea about the Call Center.

    But even in lean years, Spurs fans have been there supporting their team. What looms in the near future -- what are almost certain to be some very lean years -- will be a test. But even if our franchise goes into a Warrior-like swoon, fans will still come to see the Spurs.
    I would be inclined to agree. No other pro franchises, and think Jerry Jones has enough pull to keep central Texas for himself. The only thing that really has to compete with the Spurs in any meaningful way for entertainment dollars and attention is Longhorn football.
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    Whenever I hear or read "San Antone" I just want to slap someone.
    It's nice to know that it sounds like nails on a chalkboard to other people, too.

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    Finley's one of my alltime favorite Mavs, I love him and it's time for him to get his ring. But uh yeah, he has $18 million of Mark Cuban's money with which to soothe any hurt feelings.
    Even though I've never liked Dallas I've always liked Finley.

    And I like the fact that Dallas is paying him to play in San Antonio even more!

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    Even though I've never liked Dallas I've always liked Finley.

    And I like the fact that Dallas is paying him to play in San Antonio even more!
    thats whats so funny about it

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    Why would he bring this up in the middle of our playoffs? At least wait til after the season.

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    It makes sense to me that Cuban would want Finley back.

    The Dirk-Howard-Terry version of the Mavericks are on the decline. Where do they go next? Miami beat you in 2006, Golden State beat you in 2007, still no championship despite having 67 regular season wins and the so-called MVP Dirk Nowitzki. The media builds up expectations for certain teams every year while ignoring the real talent. But smart fans knew all along they can't win a championship. They beat the Spurs in 06. Lost eventually. They won 67 in 2007. Lost again? What's next? Let's say they win 62-67 games again next season, is it really going to matter anymore?

    I still say Dallas needs to get rid of Terry and Howard. Dirk-Stackhouse-Harris would be a more effective big three. THEN you can start comparing them to the elite Spurs.

    Dallas needs to be more young and athletic.

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    It makes sense to me that Cuban would want Finley back.
    Finley in two years is not going to contribute much, sorry. It's just Cueball trying to be an attention now that his team has long since been bounced out of the playoffs.

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    Finley in two years is not going to contribute much, sorry. It's just Cueball trying to be an attention now that his team has long since been bounced out of the playoffs.
    correct, it's so weird that he would even say this although i still feel so much love for finley as an ex-mav. i like all the ex-mavs except for maybe antoine walker and maybe fortson. i think it's probably in reference to the suns/spurs series and there may have been some talk about nash/finley, i don't really see it anywhere else in the media.

    anyway saporvida, damn that's some witty with the old school "bunk" smack and the hasselhoff reference. you must own everyone on the internets.

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    Is this the same Finley that Cuban said was just another guy who formerly wore a Mavs uni last year?

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    So should we count the tampering fine when we calculate how much Cuban is paying Finley to play for us?

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    I don't think Finley could have told the Mavericks to piss off more after they let him go than by him signing with the Spurs. Its akin to Clemens leaving Boston and signing with the Yankees.

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