Suns fans suffering!

[DarrinS]

The SUNS were wrong the rule was upheld and I am Happy about it. Is that what Spurs fans want? Although the two of you are speaking I dont believe even most Spurs fans agree that the SUNS should have been suspended. I know others are reading these posts what are some other Spurs takes on this.

What's there to agree on. The rule is black and white and has ALWAYS been enforced to the letter (ask Barkley).

Was the suspension unfortunate for the Suns? -- yes.
Should they have been suspended? -- yes (unless you think Suns players deserve preferential treatment)

By the way, you have yet to address the question of why Suns players should be exempt from a rule that has been on the books and strictly enforced FOR YEARS.

[phyzik]

The SUNS were wrong the rule was upheld and I am Happy about it. Is that what Spurs fans want? Although the two of you are speaking I dont believe even most Spurs fans agree that the SUNS should have been suspended. I know others are reading these posts what are some other Spurs takes on this.

A rule is a rule.

Some are saying the suns got screwed.... last I checked this isnt some obscure rule that no one knew about... EVERYONE knows the rule.

[wsupkid]

What's there to agree on. The rule is black and white and has ALWAYS been enforced to the letter (ask Barkley).

Was the suspension unfortunate for the Suns? -- yes.
Should they have been suspended? -- yes (unless you think Suns players deserve preferential treatment)

By the way, you have yet to address the question of why Suns players should be exempt from a rule that has been on the books and strictly enforced FOR YEARS.

I never said they should or should not be. Of course they shouldnt. But that is not or was never my argument. This is not what I came here for. I(we) have had many good conversations with Spurs fans at ASFN. I was looking for some here. But I was bombarded with letter of the law crap. Im not looking to start crap.

[clambake]

For the most part, yeah. It takes awhile to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

I think it will forever be oil and water.

I agree. I'm completely satisfied with being right. If anyone came up with a convincing argument to make the Phoenix Suns immune to NBA rules, I'd consider it.

You see, I don't think thats the argument. It has taken on that "Remember the Alamo" flare. Not likely to end anytime soon, maybe never.

[ChumpDumper]

You see, I don't think thats the argument. It has taken on that "Remember the Alamo" flare. Not likely to end anytime soon, maybe never.

That may be possible. It's also a baseless argument. What can be done about that?

[DarrinS]

I(we) have had many good conversations with Spurs fans at ASFN.

Yeah, the ones that agree with your irrational viewpoint and aren't banned.

[FromWayDowntown]

I never said they should or should not be. Of course they shouldnt. But that is not or was never my argument. This is not what I came here for. I(we) have had many good conversations with Spurs fans at ASFN. I was looking for some here. But I was bombarded with letter of the law crap. Im not looking to start crap.

What do you want us to say? Would you be happier if we said, "Oh, it was really unfortunate that Amare and Boris couldn't maintain their poise"? I truly wish that there hadn't been any need to suspend players during that series. But once Amare and Boris made the decision to approach the altercation, the league truly had no choice, in my opinion.

I don't see a logical alternative that wouldn't have exposed the league to even greater ridicule from those who are already willing to believe that there are conspiracies in place.

There was no doubt that an altercation was occurring; there was no doubt that Stouedmire and Diaw left the vicinity of the bench during that altercation. That violates the rule and a violation of that rule compels a one-game suspension. Is any of that truly subject to discussion anymore?


Don't ask me to discuss the feasibility of making special exceptions to a consistently applied rule simply because of who is involved and when the rule is broken. Particularly if you can't provide any reasonable explanation for making such an exception in the first place.

[longrod]

I didn't even bother to read this Suns crap but I do want to say one thing:
Hey Suns fans, YOU and YOUR MOTHERS!!!

[wsupkid]

Yeah, the ones that agree with your irrational viewpoint and aren't banned.

That I have no control over. And I think Chan Mike has agreed that some may have been an issue of wrong place wrong time.

[Arctic]

That I have no control over. And I think Chan Mike has agreed that some may have been an issue of wrong place wrong time.

[DarrinS]

That I have no control over. And I think Chan Mike has agreed that some may have been an issue of wrong place wrong time.

Well, no one is trying to argue the merits of the rule -- it is what it is, but here's some light reading that might convince you (i doubt it) that the suspensions were irrelevant anyway.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68618

[wsupkid]

What do you want us to say? Would you be happier if we said, "Oh, it was really unfortunate that Amare and Boris couldn't maintain their poise"? I truly wish that there hadn't been any need to suspend players during that series. But once Amare and Boris made the decision to approach the altercation, the league truly had no choice, in my opinion.

I don't see a logical alternative that wouldn't have exposed the league to even greater ridicule from those who are already willing to believe that there are conspiracies in place.

There was no doubt that an altercation was occurring; there was no doubt that Stouedmire and Diaw left the vicinity of the bench during that altercation. That violates the rule and a violation of that rule compels a one-game suspension. Is any of that truly subject to discussion anymore?


Don't ask me to discuss the feasibility of making special exceptions to a consistently applied rule simply because of who is involved and when the rule is broken. Particularly if you can't provide any reasonable explanation for making such an exception in the first place.

Would you like SUNS fans off this site? Would most rather not even converse with SUNS fans. If so I can understand that. There is nothing that can be done about the past. So lets just enjoy NBA basketball. the SUNS will get theirs. I dont know when but it will come.

[clambake]

That I have no control over. And I think Chan Mike has agreed that some may have been an issue of wrong place wrong time.

Why would they ban at all? I don't go to any other sites, but it appears to be a common practice. Are you surprised you haven't been banned here?

[wsupkid]

Why would they ban at all? I don't go to any other sites, but it appears to be a common practice. Are you surprised you haven't been banned here?

I dont think I am going at people to cause a problem. So no I am not surprised. Do you think I would have been banned as a Spurs fan at ASFN? I hope not.

[clambake]

I dont think I am going at people to cause a problem. So no I am not surprised. Do you think I would have been banned as a Spurs fan at ASFN? I hope not.

I don't know what ASFN is, but, would you consider spurstalk to be tolerant?

[DarrinS]

The victim mentality seems pervasive in Phoenix. It starts with D'Antoni, spreads to Stoudemire, infects the fanbase, it's just sad. Even Nash, the last person I would think would make excuses, did not exactly take the high road after game 6.


Here's a good self-help article for Suns fan

http://polynate.net/books/freedom/victim.html

[wsupkid]

I don't know what ASFN is, but, would you consider spurstalk to be tolerant?

Very much so with some words used here. Im just not sure If Im wanted or not. I know that 1 poster doesnt speak for all so I will have an open mind.

[wsupkid]

I don't know what ASFN is, but, would you consider spurstalk to be tolerant?

Check it out very informative on the SUNS

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/...isplay.php?f=7

[clambake]

Very much so with some words used here. Im just not sure If Im wanted or not. I know that 1 poster doesnt speak for all so I will have an open mind.

It's not you. You're just a constant reminder of the cloud that will forever hang above this years finals. Everybody understands the rules, but it will never deminish the fact that the suns got screwed.

[wsupkid]

This is for all the Spurs fans out there. I HATE your coach!!! He knows mor than any other how to control the SUNS. So for that I say Damn him!!!

[clambake]

This is for all the Spurs fans out there. I HATE your coach!!! He knows mor than any other how to control the SUNS. So for that I say Damn him!!!

Now, you're in. Too bad about the draft.

[Xylus]

This topic reminds me of that episode of Prison Break where all the convicts escape from A-Block and riots ensue.

[wsupkid]

Now, you're in. Too bad about the draft.

lol, Yes, Now thats all I wanted. I love you guys.

Seriously, Good luck in Utah.

[itzsoweezee]

i really can't stop laughing. AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


i wish there had been a camera on that dantoni when it was clear the hawks were in the top three. i can just imagine that little jumping around throwing a temper tantrum.

[violentkitten]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7OcBQFRIjxM