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    PG Parker/"Draft PG"/Vaughn
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    some thoughts:
    I think this FA or draft FC will more likely take the spot of Bonner. it might be Scola, or maybe a pick like Fazekas or Landry.
    I'm sure Butler will be on the block, same with Elson (I think one of this two will be gone)
    I can see that the Spurs try to aquire a veteran FA center for the min. if PJ doesn't retire, he would be the perfect fit for that role. so the big men rotation would see 2 new players. a new player at PG for Beno is almost a save bet and also at least one in the wing rotation. so this would make it 4 new players (or 5, if Barry is traded).
    two picks, two FA and one via trade.

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    some thoughts:
    I think this FA or draft FC will more likely take the spot of Bonner. it might be Scola, or maybe a pick like Fazekas or Landry.
    I'm sure Butler will be on the block, same with Elson (I think one of this two will be gone)
    I can see that the Spurs try to aquire a veteran FA center for the min. if PJ doesn't retire, he would be the perfect fit for that role. so the big men rotation would see 2 new players. a new player at PG for Beno is almost a save bet and also at least one in the wing rotation. so this would make it 4 new players (or 5, if Barry is traded).
    two picks, two FA and one via trade.
    Though I differ a little bit on who might be here next year to take over certain spots, I think what you suggest could very well happen.

    The main point I was trying to make, however, was that it would take a trade and/or Fin/Oberto opting out to have a serious impact on which role players get the majority of the time, because the primary role guys are all coming back and are not likely to lose out to newbies...

    I was also saying that bench guy #10, #11, and #12 would still only see time during blowouts. Just because Pop wants to rest some of the aging guys, he's not going to expand the in-game rotation, especially when the game is close and he needs his best guys out there. At most, I see him resting guys like Horry and Bowen on the second night of back-to-back games.

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    At most, I see him resting guys like Horry and Bowen on the second night of back-to-back games.
    ie, James "Flight" White Night

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    Flight White Night....I like it!

    But something tells me it's not going to be a common occurence...

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    Sorry but Joe Dumars is resigning Dyess.
    Are you sure he wants to return ? I heard he was extremely pissed off after the ECF and said something to the effect "I'll never win a ring here".

    Was that just a rumor ? I've always liked his game.

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    McDyess has a player option for next year, more than likely he picks it up & becomes a FA next year, I doubt he will be getting $6.3 mil from anyone else. I suppose its a possibility that he opts out hoping to sign another contract like a MLE contract for 3 or 4 years, but I think he wants to stay in Detroit.

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    I know he is not a FA this year, but I think the best player the Spurs could add would be Richard Jefferson of the Nets. I truly hope the Spurs make a run at him when the time comes...

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    I know he is not a FA this year, but I think the best player the Spurs could add would be Richard Jefferson of the Nets. I truly hope the Spurs make a run at him when the time comes...
    That time wont be for along time..a very long time...he is signed through 2010/2011 & is on the books to make over $65 mil in that time period..its safe to say that Jefferson will not be a Spur, while he is a nice player, he is not worth a max contract.

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    Imagine a small ball lineup against the Mavs with Duncan at center and Bruce and Posey at forward, Posey on Dirk and Bruce on Howard, with both spotting up in the corners on offense creating mega-space for the big 3. If we could somehow get Posey here I think he would be a player that could help counter the bad matchup we seem to have with the Mavs.

    Maybe Miami feels like they could use Barry's shooting for a year and would do a sign and trade for Brent and Beno. That's over $7 million, which is more than Posey made last year, and Brent would come off the Heat's books after next year anyway, or they could deal his expiring contract by the deadline. Worth at least a phone call to Pat Riley, I'd say.

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    So, I know it sounds completely ridiculous, but if you're the Spurs, don't you have to do your due diligence and see just how available Ron Artest is? Yes, he's a complete lunatic, but he's a complete lunatic with a good contract who plays like a top-15 player in the right situation.

    After all, Duncan and Robinson were able to keep that lunatic Jackson in check for a few years and a championship. Jermaine O'Neal did a pretty good job keeping Artest in line until Jackson showed up in Indiana. I think Duncan and Horry could keep him in line. For a while.

    Like I said, due diligence.

    And think about this: this year's team with a motivated Artest is the favorite for next year no matter what Phoenix does.

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    Imagine a small ball lineup against the Mavs with Duncan at center and Bruce and Posey at forward, Posey on Dirk and Bruce on Howard, with both spotting up in the corners on offense creating mega-space for the big 3. If we could somehow get Posey here I think he would be a player that could help counter the bad matchup we seem to have with the Mavs.

    Maybe Miami feels like they could use Barry's shooting for a year and would do a sign and trade for Brent and Beno. That's over $7 million, which is more than Posey made last year, and Brent would come off the Heat's books after next year anyway, or they could deal his expiring contract by the deadline. Worth at least a phone call to Pat Riley, I'd say.
    No way the Spurs would be stupid enough to pay Posey $7 mil a year, that is ridiculous. If Posey would come here for the minimum or maybe the LLE, then I'm all for it, but paying Posey anything over the LLE is ridiculous.

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    7 million a year for posey is nuts but he'll get more then the LLE. At 30 his best years are behind him but i wouldn't mind the spurs offering a little more then half the MLE for posey. Something along the lines of what the gave Barry which i think was 4 years 20 mil.

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    Does Miami seem to have any interest in resigning Posey or is he more than likely to leave town? I think Posey is the most realistic and probable outcome for this offseason as far as Bowen's replacement goes. And hes a guy that has championship experience as well as "shutdown Dirk" experience too. He is 30...but hes also ONLY 30. I'd prefer to have Nocioni, but with Posey you also retain Scola's rights.

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    No thanks. He's not worth a $20 mil contract & the Spurs would definitly not offer him a contract worth that much. I would rather spend the whole MLE on Pietrus than give Posey that kind of jack.

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    With Pietrus we could retain Scolas rights as well & bring him over after next season.

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    Sign Pietrus and bring over Scola. I have faith in James White being our Bowen replacement on D.

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    I guess I just don't get the whole Pietrus thing. I wouldn't mind having him but there are much better prospects out there. For a system that generally requires a high basketball IQ to play in, Pietrus seems like a guy that would be on the Elson plan...he'd be thrust into the fray early and would only yield disappointment. Hes a great guy, he just doesn't seem to have the basketball mind that we typically like.

    Sign Pietrus and bring over Scola. I have faith in James White being our Bowen replacement on D.
    Unless you performed a S&T for Pietrus I don't see that happening. We only have one MLE and both of those guys would require it.

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    Whoa, I didn't mean to imply that I'd offer Posey a deal for $7 mil per. I guess I shouldn't have said that $7 mil is more than he made last year, that was misleading. I was just pointing that out. Here's what I was thinking:

    First, if we give $7 mil, we'd only have to take back about $5.5 mil, and not all of that has to be Posey's new contract. IF the Heat wanted Barry for one year, but they are also a team that thinks Beno has potential and wanted him as well, then we might have to compromise and take another small contract. I was thinking that the Heat had someone like that, but on further review, they don't. Still they could sign someone to a small one year contract to make it work, if that was necessary, and we'd just stick him on the roster and in a suit behind the bench. I'm just brainstorming here; the Heat may think Beno sucks for all I know, but maybe they think he has some potential.

    The best scenario would be just trading Barry for Posey's new contract. I'd gladly pay him $20 mil for 4 years, like Slinkyman said. When I look at the Heat's roster I could see them wanting a player like Barry, especially since he's an expiring contract that they could move if it didn't work out. Worst case scenario for Miami is that he's gone by the end of the year.

    Posey is a proven Dirk defender and 3 point shooter. We are going to have to go through Dallas to win les in the coming years, unlike this year. Also we have to face the fact that next year might be Bruce's last in SA unless a takes a large pay cut, but he might do that. Still we need a replacement. I'll take Posey over a draft pick or a younger, mostly unproven free agent like Pietrus, and I like Pietrus. Maybe Posey's best years are behind him, but maybe not. Bruce was about the same age when he got here, maybe older, and his best years were ahead of him.

    Posey is the best player out there that we could reasonably get that will help turn around our current bad matchup against Dallas. We may have been very lucky that this wasn't put to the test this year.
    Last edited by BradLohaus; 06-24-2007 at 12:38 AM.

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    4 years & $20 mil for Posey? No thanks. Posey is a s of his former self. If we could get him for the LLE for 2 years, then I'm all for it, but we need a YOUNG SF..Nocioni, Pietrus etc.

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    The more I look at it, I think Posey might be a possibility. He is a unrestrictet FA, can shoot the 3, is long and a good defender. Of coure I would like a young SF (Nocioni, Pietrus, Brewer) more but I doubt a lot of teams would trade with the Spurs and make them better. I am also not sure that White can fill the role at SF. If course it would have to be for a good price.

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    Toronto has been trying to find backup PG Jose Calderon a new home. Once free agency starts, the Raptors have their mid-level exception set aside for Golden State's Mickael Pietrus, who could start for them next season at small forward.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...nely_wolf.html

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    . To me, he seems like the kind of player that wants to start and since Toronto is open of doing that, that's a good fit for him. But then again that's just me.

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    We can make him the same offer Toronto can with the MLE. If he had to choose between us & Toronto, I would think he would want to play with TP & has said as much in that French radio interview with TP a month or so ago.

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    We can make him the same offer Toronto can with the MLE. If he had to choose between us & Toronto, I would think he would want to play with TP & has said as much in that French radio interview with TP a month or so ago.
    Not to mention Mahinmi...

    That being said though, I'm really not that interested in Mickael.

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