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    Wow. I can't believe they banned Don for not engaging in the whinning. Their mods must be a bunch of sens ive little Nancies.

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    I live in Scottsdale, biyaaatch!!
    ...but your heart is in Podunk.

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    In 1993, the NBA hit a high point. The six-game series between the Bulls and the bombastic Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns averaged a 17.9 rating, a mark that eclipsed the previous record of 15.9.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_television_ratings

    Now let the grown ups talk, junior.
    You are making an ass of yourself and in the process giving the Suns Fans a bad name.

    Go back to your Suns Forums. The level of conversations in them fits your style and your age.

    PS: ES, your post made me choke

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    Because the Suns trainwreck is MUCH more entertaining.

    Nuggets fan: "I hate the Spurs. Damn Spurs. OK, when's the draft? More importantly, when is Broncos minicamp? Crap, I'm late for my bike ride up to Estes Park."

    Jazz fan: "Golly, that was a pleasant and relatively satisfying season! I shall contemplate it at length while hiking Zion!"

    Mavs fan: "67-15 and out in the first round? Crap. When's Cowboys training camp? Where's the grill?"

    Cavs fan: "We never really had a chance. Mike Brown can't coach offense to save his life. Hey, the Indians are good this year!"

    Suns fan: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! We were robbed!!! CONSPIRACY!! Tainted!! ASSTRICK(sic)!!! Stern is the devil!!! WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! We're the real champions!!!!! Start a pe ion!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Senator Kyl, start an investigation!!!!!!! I just lost control of my bladder and it's all Robert Horry's fault!!! And these were new pants!!!! WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! We should get championships because we're entertaining!!! The fate of the the basketball universe depends upon the Suns!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"

    The Phoenix meltdown is entertaining purely because of the spectacle of you people making asses of yourselves. Not only did the Spurs beat the Suns, now the Suns, as well as the people of Phoenix, are demonstrating themsleves to be our eternal es.

    And it's really, really funny.

    ''True dat''

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    Wow. I can't believe they banned Don for not engaging in the whinning. Their mods must be a bunch of sens ive little Nancies.
    I was shocked too. Read for yourself! I was mostly polite and didn't put anyone down. I only made a couple of sarcastic jabs at their vile comments.

    It was nothing compared to what people say here. Our trolls are muy entertaining.

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    In 1993, the NBA hit a high point. The six-game series between the Bulls and the bombastic Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns averaged a 17.9 rating, a mark that eclipsed the previous record of 15.9.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_television_ratings


    Now let the grown ups talk, junior.

    so you're taking credit for michael's ratings...niiiice

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    In 1993, the NBA hit a high point. The six-game series between the Bulls and the bombastic Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns averaged a 17.9 rating, a mark that eclipsed the previous record of 15.9.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_television_ratings
    Let us know when the 1993 ratings championship trophy arrives so we can offer our congrats.

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    In 1993, the NBA hit a high point. The six-game series between the Bulls and the bombastic Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns averaged a 17.9 rating, a mark that eclipsed the previous record of 15.9.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_television_ratings

    Now let the grown ups talk, junior.
    2 main reasons the ratings were bad in this series. 1) Lebron was not nearly the star that the media and the league made him out to be in the eyes of the public. 2) The Series was just not compe ive. Ratings for the 06 finals were an 8.5 mainly because it was a good series. Ratings for the 05 finals with the Spurs and Pistons were a 8.2 and an 11.9 for game 7. Shaq and Kobe star power did not greatly elevate the ratings past the ratings of a year earlier. To me this says that the public right now is more interested in a good series than individual stars. So you guys making the finals and sweeping the Cavs like we did would NOT have made a big impact on the ratings. There is no proof that should indicate to you or anyone else otherwise.

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    Because the Suns trainwreck is MUCH more entertaining.

    Nuggets fan: "I hate the Spurs. Damn Spurs. OK, when's the draft? More importantly, when is Broncos minicamp? Crap, I'm late for my bike ride up to Estes Park."

    Jazz fan: "Golly, that was a pleasant and relatively satisfying season! I shall contemplate it at length while hiking Zion!"

    Mavs fan: "67-15 and out in the first round? Crap. When's Cowboys training camp? Where's the grill?"

    Cavs fan: "We never really had a chance. Mike Brown can't coach offense to save his life. Hey, the Indians are good this year!"

    Suns fan: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! We were robbed!!! CONSPIRACY!! Tainted!! ASSTRICK(sic)!!! Stern is the devil!!! WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! We're the real champions!!!!! Start a pe ion!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Senator Kyl, start an investigation!!!!!!! I just lost control of my bladder and it's all Robert Horry's fault!!! And these were new pants!!!! WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! We should get championships because we're entertaining!!! The fate of the the basketball universe depends upon the Suns!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"

    The Phoenix meltdown is entertaining purely because of the spectacle of you people making asses of yourselves. Not only did the Spurs beat the Suns, now the Suns, as well as the people of Phoenix, are demonstrating themsleves to be our eternal es.

    And it's really, really funny.

    Hi

    larious.

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    I think i found a good word for the Spurs...Lame.

    Its like the WNBA. The product sucks but Stern tries to shove it down your throats.

    "No really....its good basketball....really...see? There's Eva Longoria!!!"

    At times Im actually embarrassed for Spurs fans. Their team is just so un-cool.
    The WNBA cannot suck if I do not watch it.

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    And yet I just easily OWNED every Spurs fan on this board.

    Also, why IN THE WORLD would you bring up "trailer trash" when you live in podunk Texas?

    We should give San Antonio back to Mexico. No one would miss it (or probably even notice).
    When i think of Arizona i think of the movie Raising Arizona.

    White trash trailer people stealing babies and all.

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    Their team is just so un-cool.
    So uncool to you, to us they are the cat's meow! I don't mind others disparaging the Spurs, say all the nasty things you want to say about them, but in the end they still have 4 NBA CHAMPIONS TROPHIES! Sad, your team, along with 28 other professional NBA teams don't! And there is a strong chance that we may win a few more before its all said and done, so get used to it!

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    And yet I just easily OWNED every Spurs fan on this board.

    Also, why IN THE WORLD would you bring up "trailer trash" when you live in podunk Texas?

    We should give San Antonio back to Mexico. No one would miss it (or probably even notice).
    You act as if you're enlighting us on how terrible suns fans feel the spurs franchise is....

    You're really just like every other suns fan that comes here to . You're no different, you're arguments still center on:

    -Boring style

    -TV Ratings

    We don't expect everyone to jump on board and fall in love with our team, because it doesnt matter.... We're all fans of a team that's had more success in the past 10 years than ANY other sports franchise(NHL, NBA, NFL, MLB). You're going to have a hard time convincing spurs fans that they should be embarrassed.

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    Because the Suns trainwreck is MUCH more entertaining.

    Nuggets fan: "I hate the Spurs. Damn Spurs. OK, when's the draft? More importantly, when is Broncos minicamp? Crap, I'm late for my bike ride up to Estes Park."

    Jazz fan: "Golly, that was a pleasant and relatively satisfying season! I shall contemplate it at length while hiking Zion!"

    Mavs fan: "67-15 and out in the first round? Crap. When's Cowboys training camp? Where's the grill?"

    Cavs fan: "We never really had a chance. Mike Brown can't coach offense to save his life. Hey, the Indians are good this year!"

    Suns fan: "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! We were robbed!!! CONSPIRACY!! Tainted!! ASSTRICK(sic)!!! Stern is the devil!!! WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! We're the real champions!!!!! Start a pe ion!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Senator Kyl, start an investigation!!!!!!! I just lost control of my bladder and it's all Robert Horry's fault!!! And these were new pants!!!! WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! We should get championships because we're entertaining!!! The fate of the the basketball universe depends upon the Suns!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"

    The Phoenix meltdown is entertaining purely because of the spectacle of you people making asses of yourselves. Not only did the Spurs beat the Suns, now the Suns, as well as the people of Phoenix, are demonstrating themsleves to be our eternal es.

    And it's really, really funny.
    Best post in the entire thread right here

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    In 1993, the NBA hit a high point. The six-game series between the Bulls and the bombastic Charles Barkley's Phoenix Suns averaged a 17.9 rating, a mark that eclipsed the previous record of 15.9.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_television_ratings

    Now let the grown ups talk, junior.
    Oh yes, my fault, the year the Suns made the finals and was never heard of again. Didn't the Suns made the finals in 1976 with Paul Westphal or something? How did the TV rating go in that finals?

    Of course, I am sure it was the Suns and not the Bulls who pulled in the ratings, unless people wants to come in and see the Suns lose.

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    In some way I understand the Suns fans (posters like lava lamp excluded) are so freaking bitter about losing this year....

    I know a guy here in Portland who is a Suns fan. The fact that he's a stupid bandwagoner that rode the Bulls' jocks in the 90's is neither here nor there.

    He was absolutely convinced that this was the Suns year to win the le. He believed it so deeply that there was no other possible outcome in his mind. It was all "EYES ON THE PRIZE! EYES ON THE PRIZE!". He was completely devastated when the Suns lost and to this day, his only retort is "Tainted. Tainted. Don't want to talk about it. It's tainted." He simply won't accept the fact that the Suns lost.

    I know how that feels. In 2003 when the Cubs were up 3-1 in the NLCS and 5 outs away from the World series, I felt the way he did. I was shocked and devastated when the Cubs lost that series. I spent the next 2 weeks blaming Steve Bartman (foul ball guy) and Dusty Baker for his horrendous pitching management.

    The difference, after about 2 weeks, I let it go. I barely said a word about it. I didn't go on Marlins message boards and & whine, I didn't scream "asterisk" or "tainted" or anything like that.

    Suns fan, I feel your pain. Honestly I do. But how long does it take for you to just put it down and move on?

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    damn these suns trolls are crying ass lil gurls and this is their leader

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    Oh yes, my fault, the year the Suns made the finals and was never heard of again. Didn't the Suns made the finals in 1976 with Paul Westphal or something? How did the TV rating go in that finals?

    Of course, I am sure it was the Suns and not the Bulls who pulled in the ratings, unless people wants to come in and see the Suns lose.
    Actually the ´76 series is pretty famous for the triple OT game six.

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    Actually the ´76 series is pretty famous for the triple OT game six.
    No argument here, and I remember the shot heard around the world (was it that series?), but I would like to see how ratings came about in that series.

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    No argument here, and I remember the shot heard around the world (was it that series?), but I would like to see how ratings came about in that series.
    Yep. Gar Head hit that shot, and it was in game five not six.

    That team is pretty famous for being probably the worst team ever to be in the finals (yes, they were even worse than Cleveland), although unlike Cleveland, that series was very compe ive.

    As for ratings, wasn´t the team still on tape delay back then? I doubt it was any good, probably the same for one of the most entertaining teams ever, the 1977 Blazers.

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    As for ratings, wasn´t the team still on tape delay back then? I doubt it was any good, probably the same for one of the most entertaining teams ever, the 1977 Blazers.
    Yep...I think the 81 finals were the first not to be on tape delay. That had to suck for fans of those teams.

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    yay suns fans.



    This thread go's to prove just how much the suns have become the spurs' proverbial .


    I guess since you guys don't have championships to really worry about, the next best thing is ratings. Most people who are winning championships, could really give a less about ratings and "sports pundits"

    I can undertand though, you guys have a lot of time to kill, so gotta look at something right?


    Ill go back and watch my championship DVD's...ill let you worry about the ratings...ill be sure and check in with you sometime soon to see just how fast the sky is actually falling.

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    Yep. Gar Head hit that shot, and it was in game five not six.

    That team is pretty famous for being probably the worst team ever to be in the finals (yes, they were even worse than Cleveland), although unlike Cleveland, that series was very compe ive.

    As for ratings, wasn´t the team still on tape delay back then? I doubt it was any good, probably the same for one of the most entertaining teams ever, the 1977 Blazers.
    It really goes to show that TV ratings in the finals have more to do with NBA marketing than the involved teams. Some of those 70's teams were a joy to watch, but nobody would ever know because the NBA didn't do a good job in marketing the product.
    Then in the 80s, the NBA marketed sound basketball with two contrasting styles in the Lakers and the Celtics, then the Bad Boys became the team everybody hates, then Jordan came in, who doesn't really need too much marketing from the NBA itself, because Nike and Gatorade already did their share. The strategy of pushing charismatic personalities who has its own personal marketing empire backfired when Jordan retired, even a player like Shaq couldn't keep the ratings high.
    The NBA is expanding for the sake of expansion, and in terms are attracting too many fairweather fans who know little about basketball, and the NBA is not doing enough to educate the public about the beauty of spacing, ball movement, and sound defense. Instead you have these bandwaggoners who doesn't know what an interference is arguing over basketball technicalities, resulting in isolation of knowledgable basketball fans, and having these bandwaggoners only tuning in to the flavour of the month.
    But then again, it's a business, and the more merchandise they sell, the better the league does.

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    It really goes to show that TV ratings in the finals have more to do with NBA marketing than the involved teams. Some of those 70's teams were a joy to watch, but nobody would ever know because the NBA didn't do a good job in marketing the product.
    Then in the 80s, the NBA marketed sound basketball with two contrasting styles in the Lakers and the Celtics, then the Bad Boys became the team everybody hates, then Jordan came in, who doesn't really need too much marketing from the NBA itself, because Nike and Gatorade already did their share. The strategy of pushing charismatic personalities who has its own personal marketing empire backfired when Jordan retired, even a player like Shaq couldn't keep the ratings high.
    The NBA is expanding for the sake of expansion, and in terms are attracting too many fairweather fans who know little about basketball, and the NBA is not doing enough to educate the public about the beauty of spacing, ball movement, and sound defense. Instead you have these bandwaggoners who doesn't know what an interference is arguing over basketball technicalities, resulting in isolation of knowledgable basketball fans, and having these bandwaggoners only tuning in to the flavour of the month.
    But then again, it's a business, and the more merchandise they sell, the better the league does.
    The NBA has never had success marketing anything but big-market teams with identifiable superstars to the casual fan. Never. Unless the Celtics, Sixers, Knicks, Lakers, or Bulls are cometing for les, the NBA is a marginal league, and that always has been true. No casual fan is ever going to care about the nuances of any sport. Ever.

    You are more likely to find casual fans who think the only reason Tim Duncan has four rings to Kevin Garnett's zero, is because of a conspiracy to restrain expressive black people, than you are to find casual fans who have any idea what a "soft double" is.

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    Spurs fans are upset cuz the Spurs are getting absolutely no RESPECT. Instead of getting praised, theyve been scoffed at for their boring play and tainted victories.

    Spurs fans have found NO SOLACE in their championship, so they try to find happiness in Suns fans arguing.

    Why don't we see any links to Mavs boards? Cavs boards? Because in every Spurs article youve read in the past month, a reference to the more likable and more deserving Suns has been included. Usually along the lines of

    "sure, theyre victory over the fast paced/high-flying Suns was tainted, but that doesn't mean they're not a great team...."

    Its never going to go away. Not as long as the Spurs are boring. So Spurs fans better just get used to it.
    keep lying to yourself there buddy............

    Runners-up: Kobe Bryant and Jeff Van Gundy.Coulda-Shoulda-Woulda Award — To the mul ude of Phoenix Suns' partisans, who still believe that David Stern's unjust ruling to suspend Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw was the only reason the Spurs won the series.
    First of all, while Robert Horry's body-check was unnecessary, its severity was considerably enhanced by Steve Nash's arm-flapping-foot-flailing antics. In truth, the impact was nowhere near as dramatic nor as damaging as Nash's histrionics made it appear to be.

    Secondly, all of the blame goes to Stoudemire and Diaw for violating rules and procedures with which they were totally familiar. Besides, even with Stoudemire in the lineup the Spurs beat the Suns 3-2, and Phoenix was much more compe ive in the game Stoudemire missed than in the team's other losses.
    First of all, while Robert Horry's body-check was unnecessary, its severity was considerably enhanced by Steve Nash's arm-flapping-foot-flailing antics. In truth, the impact was nowhere near as dramatic nor as damaging as Nash's histrionics made it appear to be.

    Secondly, all of the blame goes to Stoudemire and Diaw for violating rules and procedures with which they were totally familiar. Besides, even with Stoudemire in the lineup the Spurs beat the Suns 3-2, and Phoenix was much more compe ive in the game Stoudemire missed than in the team's other losses.


    Who else loved the "re-enactment" of Duncan and Popovic's first meeting?
    That was AWESOME! Can we POSSIBLY see a more uninteresting story actually being re-enacted? A surely coach meets a boring player who doesn't even enjoy the game that much. Lets talk about their relationship for ten minutes.
    care to share a story of the suns of es that would be so much fun to watch? can't do that can you, cause there is none, moron.
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