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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    I'd also like to commend Brasil for their sportsmanship. In the past, there have been times where both teams, Brasil and Argentina, have heckled the loser, singing and taunting. I've always found this disgusting and demeaning, from both sides. This Brasil team beat us fairly, and with respect. Respect earns respect, and they have earned mine.

    After sleeping on it, this defeat doesn't seem so bitter now. I mean, sure, its clear now that this team needs a lot more work than what was apparent, what with great performances against Peru and Mexico.

    Fast, athletic teams are our cryptonite, specially if that team is Brasil Our defense needs to go, love Ayala but its time for new blood. We need someone to help Mascherano in the middle, we can't expect the man to deal with 3 or 4 opposing players EVERY time! CHRIST! the man is good, but not THAT good! Our offense got dismantled as well, mainly due to the fact Brasil shut down Riquelme, completely and utterly. I'm surprised people hadn't figured this out before, we run on Riquelme, he's our fuel, he distributes the ball, he organizes our offense, you shut HIM down, and we're practically left at the mercy of Messi's brilliance, or Tevez' grit. I have to say though, its embarrassing how completely Riquelme was shut down, but not really that surprising if one thinks about it. The man doesn't run, period! He's like a 60 year old man out there. I mean sure he distributes the ball very well, he's got great vision of the field, but close his passing lanes and he can't do alone... not like he used to anyway.

    Anyway, I think our boys did well, not great, but well. Had one of a tournament up until coming across a clearly motivated Brasil. I don't really think they are better, just that they match up very well with us, and for some reason, they seem to have wanted it more. Hopefully this will be a good learning experience for us (god knows we haven't learned from the last time Brasil kicked our asses in much the same manner) and we get it through our thick skulls that DEFENSE is a very important part of football, and ours was practically non existent.

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    37fouls commited by bra team .....

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    37fouls commited by bra team .....
    exactly, all argentina had were set pieces and we didnt have the personnel to capitalize them. now if brazil had a player sent off we would have been in great shape with the players we had but that didnt happen.

    brazil's first goal was a great goal that you cant really do much about. the own goal and the counter attack for the 3rd were the result of argentina being too anxious moving up for the equaliser. the "smurfs"- tevez, messi, aimar, riquelme- were never going to win a ball in the air and that forced our defensive players to move further up. it killed us. i think not having crespo and not playing milito was much more of a problem than brasil "shutting down" riquelme by giving him FK. and though ayala is old and i hate the choking hack heinze, the argentina defense wasnt that bad, they were just taken out of position by basile's idiotic changes. we removed veron and cambiasso who help mascherano for aimar and gonzalez who really didnt add anything to the team, in fact it made us smaller and more vulnerable to brazil. this is all on Basile IMO

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    I wonder what the outcome would be if at the semifinal stage the four remaining teams played a round-robin format.

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    Hopefully this will be a good learning experience for us (god knows we haven't learned from the last time Brasil kicked our asses in much the same manner) and we get it through our thick skulls that DEFENSE is a very important part of football, and ours was practically non existent.
    I hope....I've always hated the way the team defends. They concentrate on offense too much, and if they're being defended well by any team, they're screwed.

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    Dunga made Basile his personal .

    Dunga is gonna be the next best coach in the world. He completely picked apart the mighty Argentine defense AND offense.

    Argentina got butt ed ugly. The main problem with Argentine players is they panic when they know its not working out and make the situation much worse. just like when they go to penalty kicks vs. anyone
    Last edited by hater; 07-16-2007 at 02:15 PM.

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    Dunga is gonna be the next best coach in the world. He completely picked apart the mighty Argentine defense
    I stopped reading after that, if you really think Argentina has a mighty defense, you really dont know what the you are talking about... and Dunga plan was to cut Argentina's offense by fouling, what a genius that guy is...lol

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    I stopped reading after that, if you really think Argentina has a mighty defense, you really dont know what the you are talking about... and Dunga plan was to cut Argentina's offense by fouling, what a genius that guy is...lol
    I meant mighty compared to the 9 other contestants in America's Cup.

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    Argentina has always played at the same pace. They have no changes in their tempo. Also, Argentina always makes really forced paces where there is little to no space when attacking, Brazil opens the game up and spreads the field and they all start running at the same time, changing paces, and htat's why they're good.

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