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    How do we know that there is not something bigger at work here?
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    Yeah they don't fit the template so you gift wrap them to the Rockets for nothing.
    That gives me some reassurance, timvp. If there were any doubt about this move, they would never have made it within the division -- especially with the Rockets.

    The potential slowness of a Rockets front line of Ming, Scola and Butler is intriguing.
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    How do we know that there is not something bigger at work here?
    Because Holt is a cheap .
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    I just got back from dinner and now this.
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    That's the long and the short of it. This is like getting kicked in the nuts as a fan.
    Exactly. This trade had no purpose other than making Holt somewhere between $4M and $7M. There is still a roster crunch because now the Spurs will bring in Mahinmi as the 6th big.

    This trade did NOTHING good. No roster spots. No trade exceptions. No quality picks. Nothing except $4M to $7M for Peter Holt.

    And the Spurs are STILL over the luxury tax threshold even after this trade ... meaning they won't sign anyone using the MLE.

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    Well I'll take your word for it.
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    "Your not a fool, are you?"
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    no but Holt is.

    RC too.

    and Pop for not standing up.
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    That gives me some reassurance, timvp. If there were any doubt about this move, they would never have made it within the division -- especially with the Rockets.

    The potential slowness of a Rockets front line of Ming, Scola and Butler is intriguing.
    Scola isn't slow. Yao and Butler are centers.

    When Scola is average 17 and 5 and Butler proves to be a solid backup center, don't look at me.
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    It is what it is
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    Let me see: Unload Butlers contract, let Spanoulis walk away & trade Scola's rights go for a future 2nd pick. Scola's stock hit a bear market. Two somethings for nothing. Seems to me this is a setup for something else that is already in the works. Makes no sense otherwise.
    Yeah, it's called 4 million for Holt to put a moonshine still in his new den.
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    "I've been trying for one month and a half to make them understand. This is crazy. Believe me, he sold everything, his car, his apartment. He is not coming back. I don't understand how they don't understand. He said, 'I cannot live there. I thought I can. I was very happy when I signed the contract. After eight months, 10 months, I don't want a single second more.'

    "It's not about money. It's not about playing time. It's not about anything else. They could trade him to San Antonio and he could be the starting point guard, and he would he would say, 'No, I cannot.' "
    oh ! what a strange tuern of events!! he;s not gogin to be our startign PG .. but still he's NOT playing here.
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    I can't imagine a worse offseason, even after last year's dismal go at it.

    Draft Marcus Williams, sign Bonner for too much money, now this. Splitter was a good pick, but he's not a Spur at the moment, is he? They'll probably trade him next summer plus cash considerations for Michael Doleac and Vin Baker's jaundiced liver.
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    well, I'd bet all my vbookie money against a repeat right now,
    this FO seems intent on going into next year with less talent and more age
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    Haven't seen this much angst from some since the Malik trade two les ago.
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    well this sucks. spanoulis has been saying that he doesn't want to play for the rockets, or maybe even in the US, and the Spurs go out and do something like this. I'm glad we finally got rid of Scola, but we shoulda kept Butler. yeah we have Splitter and Mahinmi stashed away right now, but I don't see them as safe fits with our team right now or in the near future.
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    I can't imagine a worse offseason, even after last year's dismal go at it.
    Haha! Good call.

    This makes last year look awesome!
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    When Mahinmi turns out better than Butler + Scola combined, then y'all will be singing a different tune.
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    Exactly. This trade had no purpose other than making Holt somewhere between $4M and $7M. There is still a roster crunch because now the Spurs will bring in Mahinmi as the 6th big.

    This trade did NOTHING good. No roster spots. No trade exceptions. No quality picks. Nothing except $4M to $7M for Peter Holt.

    And the Spurs are STILL over the luxury tax threshold even after this trade ... meaning they won't sign anyone using the MLE.

    Yet he thanks the fans at every Trophy presentation like he gives a . That should split that $5mil saving and send it to us in checks if he really gives a .
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    well, I'd bet all my vbookie money against a repeat right now,
    this FO seems intent on going into next year with less talent and more age
    It doesn't set out in a right frame of mind to do a -ass move like this.

    Houston was DESPERATE for big man talent. So the Spurs give them what they need for free????
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    My initial reaction is disgust. If Solid D is also against it, I have to go with my initial reaction.

    The Malik trade was much different. That was a salary dump that brought in a decent player. I didn't love it but I wasn't outraged.

    But this trade takes the cake as the worst trade I've ever seen the Spurs do. The cherry on top is they traded these players to the Rockets.
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    When Mahinmi turns out better than Butler + Scola combined, then y'all will be singing a different tune.
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    When Mahinmi turns out better than Butler + Scola combined, then y'all will be singing a different tune.
    See? I knew their was a reason!

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    When Mahinmi turns out better than Butler + Scola combined, then y'all will be singing a different tune.
    Well, it's still a stupid trade. Where's the rule they had to trade Butler and Scola TO A DIVISION RIVAL in order to bring Mahinmi over?

    This is beyond disgraceful and stupid.
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