Is it TD's Team or TP's team in 08

[milkyway21]

This stuff about Tony Parker winning NBA regular-season MVP is just stupid. Don't get me wrong, I love having Tony Parker on the Spurs. He is a terrific player. He is an All-Star. He has become capable of carrying the team for stretches. He has replaced James Silas as the best PG in the history of the franchise, and makes the talk of retiring Avery Johnson's number just the quaint chatter of slack-jawed yokels. But he is NOT an MVP-caliber player.

I don't want to hear any stupid arguments like "Well, he won Finals MVP so it could happen." Chauncey Billups, Joe Dumars, James Worthy, Cedric Maxwell, and Jo Jo White also have won Finals MVP awards, and great players though they were, none of them were the kind of players who were ever going to win regular-season MVP.

I don't know what is wrong with you people. Maybe the boredom and the heat of the summer make you say things like that.

Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward in the history of the game of basketball. Tony Parker is around the 5th-best point guard in the current NBA. Stop claiming that they are anywhere close to equal.

Is it any wonder that the American public ignores Tim Duncan and his achievements, when all it takes is a celebrity wedding and some ESPN love for Parker, for even Spurs fans to lose all perspective?

I salute you Extra Stout!

[dbreiden83080]

His production is getting down every year, what do you call that,, he is over thirty and i would say he has only two good seasons left in him..

That is because Pop plays him less minutes now to save him for the playoffs. Just look at his postseason numbers they are like 25 and 12 every year with his minutes back up again. Duncan was not the MVP of the finals but he was far and away the MVP of the playoffs. He played maybe the best all around game i have ever seen him play in game 6 against the Suns and that is saying an awful lot.

[mathbzh]

Parker still has to work on his consistency though. One night he scores 20 with ease, and the next night he can barley manage 6. Until he masters consistency he won't be considered one of the best in the NBA.

Are you kidding????
TP has scored in double digits in all his playoff games. He scored in single digit 9 time during the last season. Including a 3pts 3ast in 12' game and a 9pt 15 ast in 30'.
He is now a very consistent player.

[v2freak]

Are you kidding????
TP has scored in double digits in all his playoff games. He scored in single digit 9 time during the last season. Including a 3pts 3ast in 12' game and a 9pt 15 ast in 30'.
He is now a very consistent player.

Consistently taking a lot of shots and crowding the paint

[mathbzh]

He will never be as good of a passer or shooter as Steve Nash. NEVER. And he may be a better defender, but he isnt exactly spectacular at that either. Without Duncan and Bowen locking guys and areas up, he would have to focus a LOT more on defense than he does at the moment. I have serious doubts about TPs defense. There is no question that he can penetrate, finish, and score points. Which is great, but thats about all he can do. But I guarantee that he will never be the playmaker that Steve Nash is.

Nash is a once in a lifetime playmaker... Tony can improve his playmaking without being what Nash is.

[spursfan09]

Damn this thread brought out alot of TP haters.

[ginobili fan]

bla bla bla bla bla ........
And we won ...
These are the spurs fans

[milkyway21]

Parker is a ball hog. Another reason why Duncan's numbers were down. You can't score without the ball.,

somebody warned me about starting a post about TP scoring 0 pt in the clinching QTR of the 2007 finals it might come to this->fans arguing about who's the best player on this team or who shld have won the finals MVP.

6 pages already...and still counting... more, more!

[aaronstampler]

This thread is ing stupid. We've got the best player in the league and it ain't Tony Parker.

[ancestron]

Tony's album cover

heard any of the songs? Its actually not bad. Some are a little out there but all in all its a pretty good record. Better than most would expect from an above average NBA player.

It looks like he told the graphics department to enhance his crotch area though.

[spursfan09]

This thread is ing stupid. We've got the best player in the league and it ain't Tony Parker.

The biggest TP hater of them all

[Man In Black]

Look, the OP posed the question...Whose team will it be in 08?

So whether you like TP or not, I Think TP is awesome, whose team will it be?

All right then.

The rest of it is smoke and mirrors. TD provides the foundation work needed to make TP & MG & all the rest go.

[xapatan2]

I would love to end this thread with this little summary :

-1- : one of the dumbest thread ever since the fourth le ( the question does not even need to be debated)

-2- : a thread that had maybe an hidden purpose : to recreate and to refund the hate at Tony Parker ! During these six pages I have been absolutely not at all astonished to find the usual posters coming back with their stupid arguments that Mr Parker has destroyed years after years : defense, consistency, the 5th point guard in the league, etc and etc...( shooting, his french nationality... blah blah blah...)

Oh man !
Guys, Its been a great pleasure ! well in fact i understand you... must be difficult to eat crow years after years...

Xap'

[Man In Black]

Notice you threw in the French dig in there. It doesn't matter that Tony is french. It's his game that gets critiqued here. He absolutely deserved to win the Finals MVP but if it's for the playoffs, then Tim wins...no question.
Again, TP is wonderful and a great fit for the Spurs. I'm just saying that there are others that could provide what he does(Not at the same price though).

[spursfan09]

There are others that could provide what Tony provided. But we will never know. Tony is the one who did it for us. It's okay to be happy with him Spurs fans.

[BIG z]

ok this is only what i think, before the finals started i think TP had his mind set to win the finals MVP, in the 3rd game where he was not doing good, he took that three, he must have thought that his stat line wasn’t great throughout the game, if he would have made that three it would guarantee his chances on winning the MVP, and on the other hand if he would have missed he would have been criticized cuz he is not 3p shooter and there was enough time on the clock to pass it up for a better shot for someone else, he did take the risk and won the hearts of the MVP voter right there, I still think TD should have won the MVP, he rebounded, scored and played amazing defense which only allowed one dunk by Lebron. For some reason the championship felt empty with TD not winning the MVP...

[spursfan09]

When he was taking that 3 I thought he was actually trying to help the Spurs win. Damn I should of realized it was to fill his stat line. Now I wish I wouldn't of celebrated when he made it.

[BIG z]

When he was taking that 3 I thought he was actually trying to help the Spurs win. Damn I should of realized it was to fill his stat line. Now I wish I wouldn't of celebrated when he made it.

What if Oberto took the three..

[spursfan09]

What!!?

[BIG z]

[QUOTE=spursfan09]What!!?[/QUOTe

what if he didnot make it..

[Man In Black]

TP had his mind set to win the finals MVP, in the 3rd game where he was not doing good, he took that three, he must have thought that his stat line

Alright, this irks me to no end. The one I can say unquivocabally about TP is that he is a team player. Your INTERPRETATION intimates that TP is SELFISH, when he isn't. HE took what the D gave him and he scored.
The guy ain't selfish.

[BIG z]

The Guy is fake, believe it or not,

[ducks]

Parker still has to work on his consistency though. One night he scores 20 with ease, and the next night he can barley manage 6. Until he masters consistency he won't be considered one of the best in the NBA.

when is the last time he did not score in double figures

he can get better but he is pretty conistant now

[polandprzem]

I always thought it was Peter's Holt team
WTF?
























Seriously, come on. Was Boston Celtica A denis Johnsons team one time?
Nope
It was always about Larry

[BIG z]

I always thought it was Peter's Holt team
WTF?

U were probably living under a rock, maybe still are..






















Seriously, come on. Was Boston Celtica A denis Johnsons team one time?
Nope
It was always about Larry