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    good news is he never reffed any Finals games.

    Easily predictable considering how long (or short in this case) he's been an NBA ref.

    The Finals guys were all around for a million years before getting allowed to be in the Finals.

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    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/64331 Lakers over Suns 99-92 - 4/27/06

    He ejected Pop this last January against the Hornets - http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.1abb0b2.html

    He's also the ref that Rasheed confronted outside the Rose Garden back in the day and Rasheed got suspended for 7 games

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    He didn't do any WCF games the last two years either.

    2nd round is as far as he got as far as I can tell.

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    He didn't do any WCF games the last two years either.

    2nd round is as far as he got as far as I can tell.
    Did he do any Mavs-Spurs games?

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    This site tells you how many games he ref'd each season, if the teams beat the spread, etc.

    http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pag...03935.html&t=0

    You can pull down the menu and change the season.

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    correct me if im wrong,,,but isnt that the game they got a huge lead, then saw it evaporate? i wonder what the point spred was ont hat game.
    ESPN's schedule page says the line was Spurs -4.

    If you wanted to see a game that might implicate Donaghy, the January 19 game between the Spurs and Hornets could be one. In that game, the Spurs were 16 point favorites against a Hornets team playing without several of its top players, including Chris Paul. At the end of that game, Donaghy doled out several technical fouls to Hornets players for things that are rarely punished in NBA games:

    With one minute left in the game, the Hornets' Desmond Mason, who had 11 points, was ejected when he slammed the ball to the floor after being called for an offensive foul. Chris Paul, who was on the bench wearing street clothes, was ejected, too, for jawing at the officials after Mason was booted.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270119024

    I vividly recall Donaghy being the official who tossed Paul. I don't remember if he put the T on Mason, too; but it would make sense that he would have been the official who was taking heat for the Mason T. The Express-News story that Kori linked above says that Paul only said "That's crazy."

    It's also possible that he was just trying to protect himself from being caught, too; he ran Popovich out that night.

    In any event, the Spurs won the game by 13, but didn't cover -- at least according to the line reflected on ESPN's schedule page; who knows if a better line was available from other sources.

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    he did PHX-LA 2006 game 3, a 7 point win for LA

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    No, there isn't. Shaving points can still affect the outcome of the game. If San Antonio is favored by 4 to beat Dallas, and this ref shaves points to ensure that San Antonio doesn't win by more than 4, this could still affect who wins and loses. What if Dallas gets hot at the end and wins it? What might have been a 20 point blowout by the Spurs could turn into a Mavericks win simply because a ref shaved points to cover the spread.
    While that is true, it would be better to shave points in a game with a much larger point spread. 3 or 4 doesn't allow you much leeway to be certain that you get it under that. A game with say an 11 or 12 point spread would be much easier to control without making it obvious what you are doing. I would think that calling shooting fouls near the end of the game would be the easiest way for a ref to control where the point spread ends up.

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    Did he do any Mavs-Spurs games?
    No, not the 2006 playoff series. In fact, he didn't work a single game during our 06 run to the finals. He was part of the crew for Game 3 of the Warriors series, FWIW, a blowout win for Golden State.

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    Isn't the problem of finding which games he shaved dependant on knowing whether he wanted a certain team to beat the spread, or not? We don't know how the mob wanted the cover to end up.

    Also, the bookies can make their own lines to make a bet supposedly more enticing.

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    Looks like someone else besides Vick is sweating bulllets right about now. So is everyone convinced that Donaghy is the culprit?

    Oops nevermind just saw that is is Donaghy.
    Last edited by florige; 07-20-2007 at 02:26 PM.

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    oh sorry kori

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    I linked to that article on the previous page of this thread.

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    I remember the game where Sheed got suspended for 7 games after he threatened Donaghy at the loading dock of the Rose Garden. Donaghy was HORRIBLE! He was so biased in his officiating it was ridiculous.

    I can hear Sheed now... "Jail don't lie!"

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    I linked to that article on the previous page of this thread.
    Do you believe me now Kori?

    I remember in the old days you telling me this was impossible.

    Anyone who witnessed the Pistons-Lakers series (four straight jump ball violations called on the Lakers on the opening tip of the first four games of the NBA Finals) already knew something was rotten in Denmark.

    Really, how much more obvious can it be that certain games are orchestrated to fall a certain way by the officials?

    I won't say I told you so, but I told you so.

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    Do you believe me now Kori?

    I remember in the old days you telling me this was impossible.

    Anyone who witnessed the Pistons-Lakers series (four straight jump ball violations called on the Lakers on the opening tip of the first four games of the NBA Finals) already knew something was rotten in Denmark.

    Really, how much more obvious can it be that certain games are orchestrated to fall a certain way by the officials?

    I won't say I told you so, but I told you so.
    Not to mention game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals. Just an unbelievable disparity of foul calls....especially in the 4th quarter. Anybody that doesn't think the refs had something to do with the Lakers coming back from that big deficit needs to have their head examined.

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    I can hear Sheed now... "Jail don't lie!"

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    Anyone who witnessed the Pistons-Lakers series (four straight jump ball violations called on the Lakers on the opening tip of the first four games of the NBA Finals) already knew something was rotten in Denmark.
    Aside from the fact that the play-by-plays of that series don't reflect jumpball violations on the opening tip of any game, somehow, I don't think a violation called on the opening tip played any part in the Lakers losing the 3 games in Detroit that year.

    Really, how much more obvious can it be that certain games are orchestrated to fall a certain way by the officials?
    You're taking a story about a single official who was doing the will of mobsters, not the NBA, and suggesting a leaguewide conspiracy. That's ridiculous. It's almost as ridiculous as your long-since debunked claim that the 2003 Spurs had the greatest free throw attempt advantage of any NBA champion.

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    Not to mention game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals. Just an unbelievable disparity of foul calls....especially in the 4th quarter. Anybody that doesn't think the refs had something to do with the Lakers coming back from that big deficit needs to have their head examined.
    Or Game 6 of the Kings-Lakers series.

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    Not to mention game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals. Just an unbelievable disparity of foul calls....especially in the 4th quarter. Anybody that doesn't think the refs had something to do with the Lakers coming back from that big deficit needs to have their head examined.
    The only call that was even questionable was the one blocking call late in the game I think on Steve Smith if I remember right.

    The rest was destiny....well, that and an unbelievable choke job by the Blazers.

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    Aside from the fact that the play-by-plays of that series don't reflect jumpball violations on the opening tip of any game, somehow, I don't think a violation called on the opening tip played any part in the Lakers losing the 3 games in Detroit that year.

    Wait a minute....are you saying there were not jump ball violations called against the Lakers in each of the first four games of the NBA Finals that season?

    If so, either you didn't watch the series, don't remember or are simply biased.

    Those calls were a foreshadowing of how each game was called, huge FT attempt differentials in favor of the Pistons, Lakers getting called for touch fouls in the backcourt.

    It was fixed, so blatantly and obviously as to be transparent.

    Oh and if you want to bet me on the jump ball violations, let me know.

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    I remember the jump ball violations.

    But it's ludicrous to suggest that was a sign of fixing the games.

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    Wait a minute....are you saying there were not jump ball violations called against the Lakers in each of the first four games of the NBA Finals that season?

    If so, either you didn't watch the series, don't remember or are simply biased.

    Those calls were a foreshadowing of how each game was called, huge FT attempt differentials in favor of the Pistons, Lakers getting called for touch fouls in the backcourt.

    It was fixed, so blatantly and obviously as to be transparent.

    Oh and if you want to bet me on the jump ball violations, let me know.
    Too funny. As soon as I saw this topic, I knew Laker fans would be running around whining about conspiracy theories. They've definitely become the biggest whiners in the NBA.

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    I remember the jump ball violations.

    But it's ludicrous to suggest that was a sign of fixing the games.
    Maybe the ref made a prop bet.

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    Wait a minute....are you saying there were not jump ball violations called against the Lakers in each of the first four games of the NBA Finals that season?

    If so, either you didn't watch the series, don't remember or are simply biased.
    I'm saying that the play-by-plays of the games don't reflect the calls you're referring to. More importantly, though, I'm saying that you're full of nonsense if you really believe that a series of jumpball violations is somehow indicative of a fix.

    As for the rest of your garbage, I obviously believe quite differently than you do. You still haven't begun to show me that one official's suspected association with organized crime figures as a result of his own gambling problems is evidence that every official in the league is dictating outcomes of games on a routine basis. Until you can provide me with some proof of that -- something other than your every-post crap about the Lakers somehow getting screwed by officials every time an opponent shoots more free throws -- I'm not inclined to agree in any sense with your arguments about some pervasive conspiracy to fix NBA games.

    Sell that crap at Lakersground or wherever it is that your takes aren't ever questioned.

    Oh and if you want to bet me on the jump ball violations, let me know
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