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i'd like to see a pro-lifer roll call.
how many of you dumb ers are men?
Minority in check. Don't think so. There has been about
the same number of abortions in the US as we have
illegals in the US. Maybe we should have just kept the
legals. Except...........
i'd like to see a pro-lifer roll call.
how many of you dumb ers are men?
My my, someone's grumpy.
Nice tolerance. Bigot.i'd like to see a pro-lifer roll call.
how many of you dumb ers are men?
That's obvious.
I don't see the destruction of embryonic stem cells as murder but, I do see the destruction of life created through some process applied to embryonic stem cells as murder.
But, you're getting into a discussion not germane to the discussion on abortion.
We know the embryo that exists in a woman's uterus is the product of a sperm fertilizing an egg and, therefore, cons utes a complete product capable of growing into a baby. An embryonic stem cell is not the product of any fertilization but, instead, a cell from some part of an embryo.
A bigot eh? well, im not sure if pro-lifers are necessarily an ethnic group, but it certainly is an ideology, and i assure you there have been far worse things said about liberals on this forum than that.
why should i tolerate this kind of holier than thou hypocrisy anyway? essentially you have a large group of old school patriarch's attempting to reign in the reproductive rights of american women, which i find disgusting. 77% of pro-life leaders are men, and I highly doubt there was a single female pro-lifer in this thread.
i think if you're going to spout out patriarchal rhetoric you ought to own up to your status as a patriarch.
so getting back to the question at hand, how many of you pro-lifers are men?
That is NOT a fact, that is your opinion (and an ill-founded one at that) and your inability to tell the difference makes the rest of your arguments that much weaker. Do you know someone who has had an abortion recently? Does she run around telling everyone without judgment? If so, she is in such an extreme minority it's barely even noteworthy.
And this is what makes you weakest of all, because at the essence of our humanity is our ability to see mistakes, learn from them, and correct them. It's what makes the human experience worthwhile and meaningful. If we are unwilling to see our mistakes, then how can we be expected to make progress?History to most, including me,
starts when you are born. The rest is just words in a
book, and we have learned, those can be changed with
time and outlook....
How could anyone possibly disagree with R2D2 and Jekky?
Typical of liberals to go straight to the victim card. See, liberals can label people with the worst labels: racist, sexist, phobe...because liberals are right.A bigot eh? well, im not sure if pro-lifers are necessarily an ethnic group, but it certainly is an ideology, and i assure you there have been far worse things said about liberals on this forum than that.
Just point it out when they're being intolerant and look what happens.
Why should I tolerate mother ing murder? And what is hypocritical about a pro-life stance, exactly? Do you think about words before you say them? Of course not, you're a stimulus-response liberal.why should i tolerate this kind of holier than thou hypocrisy anyway? essentially you have a large group of old school patriarch's attempting to reign in the reproductive rights of american women, which i find disgusting. 77% of pro-life leaders are men, and I highly doubt there was a single female pro-lifer in this thread.
I love how you've pulled all of these cool buzzwords from feminist dogma rags.i think if you're going to spout out patriarchal rhetoric you ought to own up to your status as a patriarch.
I'm a man. Big ing deal. Are you a woman? I'd like to know who I'm enslaving when the patriarchal master plan prevails.so getting back to the question at hand, how many of you pro-lifers are men?
Well...this conversation has certainly maintained its sobriety.
How effeminate of you.
Why do you care, do you have a womb?
Has anyone ever ask the baby how they felt? While being
sucked out with a vacuum tube. Or having their head punctured
and brains vacuumed out.
Ever see a baby 8 weeks after conception?
Way to miss the point, dude.
Of course if the woman's life is in danger, there is a very good point to abort.
As a % of total abortions, how many times does that happen?
Do the research and come back to me.
Great fist post on this thread.and i don't give a if you think that's immoral because you are never going to get pregnant
Keep the good work up!
Funny, when did the pro-lifers say that abortions in the case of saving life were bad? It is pretty much an irrefutable fact that the life of a person with experiences, memories, and an "intristic" value is worth more than one without in a situation in which only one can live.
People use abortion overwhelmingly for birth control, not saving mothers lives.
Ohio is going abortion crazy...
LinkyNew proposed legislation in Ohio would make it illegal for a woman to get an abortion without a man's permission, according to the Record-Courier.
Not knowing who the father of the fetus is couldn't be used as an excuse under the new law. Women would have to provide a list of potential fathers who would then be required to submit themselves to paternity testing until a father is found. It would also make it illegal for a man who isn't the father to provide the permission.
What about rape or incest? A woman seeking an abortion would have to provide "reasonable cause" for the doctor to believe the rape of incest occurred, which, in our estimation, would probably mean police reports and charges filed.
Yes, let's give rapist and molesters more rights than women too....
And 23% are women. I guess they just hate themselves and lay down the oppression? Or perhaps they care about, gasp, life over murder as birth control?
George Carlin on abortion and conservatives <--- great bit
Trying to save a life is vey hypocritical. You go boy!
What a load of horse !essentially you have a large group of old school patriarch's attempting to reign in the reproductive rights of american women, which i find disgusting.
Sure, RtD, those old school patriatch's take the pro-life position for fun. All they want to do is pester the women who practice abortions. Good point!
Do you consider the fetus in a woman's womb a human life? If you do, it matters not if you are a man or a woman.77% of pro-life leaders are men, and I highly doubt there was a single female pro-lifer in this thread.
Very relevant indeed.i think if you're going to spout out patriarchal rhetoric you ought to own up to your status as a patriarch.
I'm a man who believes life is precious.so getting back to the question at hand, how many of you pro-lifers are men?
Last edited by smeagol; 08-03-2007 at 08:38 AM.
What? I was referring to the thread topic, not the direction of the thread since.
"What should be the punishment for women if abortion were illegal?"
"Im pro-choice so what the do I care?"
Effeminate? Thats effeminate? You have a very low standard of feminism if thats the case. Try again troll.
Has anyone seen the National Geographic special In The Womb? It shows from a scientific point of view that life begins at conception. You can rent this at Blockbuster.
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