KG to Boston done deal!!

[callo1]

I'm glad KG is out of Minny.

For years T-Wolves fans have said that the only reason he didn't win a ring was because he didn't have the supporting cast around him. They reasoned that Timmy did and thats why Tim had the rings. I have always believed that Tim and KG were entirely different players in that Tim is SO much better at making his teamates better.

We will finally get to see what kind of player KG is with a "supporting cast" around him that is of the Allstar variety.

Validation and verification are on the way.

[Ginobilly]

^^^
Of Course Tim is better at making his teammates better. He's a traditional back to the basket player and commands so much attention in the post that he doesn't really need superior athletic scoring 2 guards 3's to be successful. That's why the spurs have won championships with low draft picks journey men. They make their 3's we are going to win the championship, they don't they don't. Kg like Kobe need better talented players to be successful. Put Tim in the Lakers or Tpups and I bet his teams will do more damage in the Western Conference playoffs than with Kobe or Garnett. i don't know if he will win the championship with either team but I could guarantee he will at least take them to 2nd or western conference finals and duke it out with Phoenix or Dallas. Could Kobe or Garnett do that?

[ambchang]

So Allen needs the ball to be effective, and plays little defense. Pierce dominates the ball, and plays little defense. Garnett doesn't score inside, so Boston's inside scoring got worse (although interior defense got leaps and bounds better). They still do not have a PG, they still do not have any semblance of perimeter defense, they still do not have decent coaching.
Frankly, I would be surprised if Boston comes out of the 2nd round, even in the East.

EDIT: I forgot to mention their bench.
EDIT 2: You can't put 3 superstars on the same team, and expect them to average the same amount of points they did the previous season. I would expect Garnett to average a career low next year.

[ducks]

So Allen needs the ball to be effective, and plays little defense. Pierce dominates the ball, and plays little defense. Garnett doesn't score inside, so Boston's inside scoring got worse (although interior defense got leaps and bounds better). They still do not have a PG, they still do not have any semblance of perimeter defense, they still do not have decent coaching.
Frankly, I would be surprised if Boston comes out of the 2nd round, even in the East.

boston scoring got worse
wtf

[ambchang]

boston scoring got worse
wtf

Interior scoring. Al Jefferson is a better inside scorer than Garnett, not better scorer. Like Corliss Williamson was a better inside scorer than Ray Allen.

[ducks]

ok

watch them land pj brown

[Nikos]

But could you envision a scenario where you switch Duncan for Garnett on any of his teams and they don't even make the playoffs?

I can't.

Now, some of that may have to do with the fact that Garnett never had coaching that took defense seriously (hey to Flip).

But I think that in the final analysis, the NBA is still the big man's game, and The Ultimate Long Three << The Ulimate 4-5 when it comes to building a squad.

I could see Duncan struggling to get his team into the playoffs if he had KG's supporting casts in 2005-07, yes. Who knows if he would get them there? KG has lead some mediocre supporting casts to 50 wins, so technically he is very close to Duncan level, actually he is probably just as good when he has offensive help (due to his versatility).

It will be interesting to see. And in all honesty in 2003-04 Garnett was definitely playing at a Duncan like level on both ends. Tim has probably had more dominant years factoring both ends and of course success in the playoffs -- but Garnett could easily be considered a top 3 player when healthy and having support. Garnett plays both ends, and is the best passing big in the league. Garnett's only weakness is that he is not a Top 10 scorer. But if you factor his passing, and his defense -- he is clearly a franchise type player. He doesn't really have any true weaknesses, and is excellent at almost everything. What more can you ask of him? He is not a Wade or Kobe type scorer. Duncan is not that much better of a scorer either.

[Nikos]

So Allen needs the ball to be effective, and plays little defense. Pierce dominates the ball, and plays little defense. Garnett doesn't score inside, so Boston's inside scoring got worse (although interior defense got leaps and bounds better). They still do not have a PG, they still do not have any semblance of perimeter defense, they still do not have decent coaching.
Frankly, I would be surprised if Boston comes out of the 2nd round, even in the East.

EDIT: I forgot to mention their bench.
EDIT 2: You can't put 3 superstars on the same team, and expect them to average the same amount of points they did the previous season. I would expect Garnett to average a career low next year.

I expect them to take less shots, but be more efficient. Kind of like Parker and Ginobili. Put them on a crappy team, they might score more, but will probably be less efficient. And with Garnett on defense, and his passing he will make things easier for them on both ends. No more Pierce having to score 40 for the team to win in the playoffs -- ditto for Ray Allen. They will have more energy on both ends in crunch time due to their collective talent.

They should be a Top 5 team easy, even with a weak bench and even if the chemistry isn't near perfect.

[Avitus1]

This is just shocking as to me. At least he finally got traded I got tired of hearing about everyone trying to get him.

[possessed]

lol @ Laker fans

[The_Game]

Interior scoring. Al Jefferson is a better inside scorer than Garnett, not better scorer. Like Corliss Williamson was a better inside scorer than Ray Allen.

LMAO

NO HE IS NOT. KG shoots jumpers but has far more post moves inside hense why he is so tough to stop. To say Jefferson is a better inside scorer is idiotic.

[ambchang]

LMAO

NO HE IS NOT. KG shoots jumpers but has far more post moves inside hense why he is so tough to stop. To say Jefferson is a better inside scorer is idiotic.

In case you haven't been watching basketball for the last 12 years. Garnett is known for not having moves in the post, thus not being a strong enough threat to carry his team offensively in the post season.
Jefferson shot 51.4% from the field last season, with 4.3 FTA on 12.3 FGA (that's .35 FTA/FGA) and 3.4 ORB a game, while Garnett shot 47.6%, with 6.6 FTA on 17.6 FGA (that's .375 FTA/FGA, not that much different from Jefferson, despite being a MUCH bigger star and center of the Wolves' offense) and 2.4 ORB a game, and that is not taking into account Garnett plays almost 6 more minutes. I suppose Jefferson got all those offensive rebounds, high % shots and FT shots by being a crappier inside scorer.
Want more proof? 77% of Garnett's shots were jump shots, 17% from close range, and the remaining on dunks and tips. That translates to 77% from outside and 23% inside. His inside shots were made at 55.5%
Jefferson had 41% of his shots on the outside, 48% on close rank, and the remaining 11% on dunks and tips. That means that 59% of his shots were inside shots. His inside shots had an accuracy of 57.8%.
In terms of moves, the only consistent move Garnett has on the low blocks is a turnaround jumper (either shot of hook) spinning to his left. Jefferson can do that, as well as turn the other way, has a nice drop step, good turnaround, his footwork in the post is polished and made Jefferson such a sort after commodity.
If you haven't watched either player play, at least look up the damn numbers before acting like a smart ass.

[SequSpur]

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