Brent? Are you getting the message?

[ChumpDumper]

I gotta give you credit...you really do push the envelope when it comes to stupidity.

And you break right through it.

Seeing as you have written off Barry for this season and possibly forever, why play him ever? You said Pop destroyed him. What then? I mean, what now?

[whottt]

And you break right through it.

Seeing as you have written off Barry for this season and possibly forever, why play him ever? You said Pop destroyed him. What then? I mean, what now?

No, I don't...I'm capable of reading what you write and responding to the words that you wrote...you are too stupid to do that. You have to turn it into something else then ask me to answer questions and defend my position based on statements I never made. Get ed. Stupid.

Edit: and as for the Pop destruction part of it...he is destroyed as we speak. It's pretty obvious. It could change...but I don't like the reason I think it would change...injury to another key player. IE, Brown, Parker, Manu, Bowen. A change that would leave us in a weakened state...We gain nothing in that instance.

[ChumpDumper]

You have to turn it into something else then ask me to answer questions and defend statements I never made.

LMFAO at the hypocrite.

So now Barry is destroyed?

What minutes should he get now that he is destroyed?

[whottt]

Read my edit, I answered the non stupid part of your post directly.

[ChumpDumper]

So the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you have been arguing he should have been getting the entire night.

[whottt]

So the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you have been arguing he should have been getting the entire night.

Stupid.

[ChumpDumper]

He should get those minutes?

But he's destroyed.

What good is he?

Make up your ing mind.

[whottt]

He should get those minutes?

But he's destroyed.

What good is he?

Make up your ing mind.

Hmmm....

but I don't like the reason I think it would change...injury to another key player. IE, Brown, Parker, Manu, Bowen. A change that would leave us in a weakened state...We gain nothing in that instance.

So the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you have been arguing he should have been getting the entire night.

[ChumpDumper]

So the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you have been arguing he should have been getting the entire night.

Sorry, that should have ended with a question mark.

But it obvious that you think, barring injury, the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you had been arguing he should have all night.

I'm glad you cleared that up for all of us. Maybe you'll take less than 6 pages and 7 hours to flip-flop completely next time.

[whottt]

Sorry, that should have ended with a question mark.

But it obvious that you think, barring injury, the now-destroyed Barry shouldn't get any of the minutes you had been arguing he should have all night.

I'm glad you cleared that up for all of us. Maybe you'll take less than 7 pages and 7 hours to flip-flop completely next time.

I never said he shouldn't, you ing changed it to that, stupid...I just said I don't think he's going to...

[mattyc]

You're giving up already?

It isn't even the middle of December yet. Damn, you'd be a horrible boxer. You'd throw in the towel after the obligatory glove tap.

Hold your chin up.

And your ears...

[Gummi]

Man people have some deep deep hate for Barry in here. So what, that he got that contract, he deserved it. Just because he hasn't played well this season doesn't mean he's trash. He's going to be valuable player for us this season, just wait and see. His contract is very reasonable and very tradable. So if he stinks all season we could trade him. There are many teams out there that would love to have him.

[Rummpd]

I can see CIA Pop pulling a rabbit soon and bringing Barry in very early vs. weak teams to boost confidence.

Otherwise he will sit until Brown and Beno fall back (if they do).

MadDoc

[pjjrfan]

Anybody remember what Kerr did during the 99 playoffs? I'm not sure about the numbers, but he was 0-13 or something like that, the whole year, he just couldn't get it going, but in the playoffs, he seemed off. We know what happened in 03. I see Barry the same way, the guy can do it, it's just a matter of timing now. Luckily for us Brown and Udrih are producing, but they are new players, and the question of whether they can do it for a full season and in the playoffs is very much up in the air.

[T Park]

If Brent Barry is that easily "ruined" by lack of playing time in December then he wouldn't hold up in May.

IMO, hes not "ruined" according to the Whottt filibuster BS here in this thread.


I think all Barry has to is freakin relax, and stay in front of his man on defense.

Hes trying too damn hard, and hes horrible on offense for being such a "fantastic" offensive player.

[whottt]

I'm the guy that wanted to tank the season last year because of an ankle sprain. I thought Hedo was going to be a winner, that Anthony Carter was going to be the man, and I thought Devin Brown was going to suck. God blessed with me with a short memory, otherwise I'd probably have given up talking by now

[ChumpDumper]

I just said I don't think he's going to

Here are my questions for you.

1) Is Barry a destroyed player? Yes or no?

2) Is a destroyed player the best option to have out on the floor, when you have 5 guys available who are the complete oppos e of destroyed? Yes or no?

These are two questions to be answered with two words.

No filibusters, no squirming, no whining.

Yes or no?

[whottt]

Here are my questions for you.

1) Is Barry a destroyed player? Yes or no?

At the moment? Yes.

2) Is a destroyed player the best option to have out on the floor, when you have 5 guys available who are the complete oppos e of destroyed? Yes or no?

No.

Like I said, insert tty like rationalization that all of his games have been like last nights or even the games he's played since the yankem strategy began, here.

These are two questions to be answered with two words.

No filibusters, no squirming, no whining.

Yes or no?

My question, is he getting better or worse? Do we have better record when he plays more than 20 miniutes per game VS <10 or a worse?

Answer?

Don't worry I don't expect the same courtesy of an honest and legit answer. I expect ism, I know you well.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes.

Pre-destruction.

But now you think he's destroyed, so you can't call for him to play those minutes.

What's done is done -- you might as well be asking for a Payton trade 4 years ago, today.

[whottt]

Yes.

Pre-destruction.

But now you think he's destroyed, so you can't call for him to play those minutes.

What's done is done -- you might as well be asking for a Payton trade 4 years ago, today.

Which means my criticism of Pop is valid. Thank you. Which means if we end up having a repeat of last season or 01 in the playoffs Pop should be held accountable for his role in it.


The deal..I could still call for Pop to back off of Barry because it's kind of stupid to pay a guy the MLE and not try to figure out how to get the most out of him. Rather than up his offense trying to make him a defensive player why not just figure out how to mask his defensive shortcomings and let him get back to playing O like he is capable of. Use a zone D? Phoenix seems to be doing it with the Steve Nash. I don't know that he's going to be clutch, I don't know that he would be clutch in the playoffs even if Pop hadn't ed him up....

but if I was paying a guy the MLE...rather than just having a " ing pussy" at ude towards the player...I'd try to get his offensive game going....And if it works I'd be happier...I wouldn't "lean towards" him over other players...but I'd feel better about the team's chances as a whole.

Even if Barry does regain his offense though, this season or the next,...he's not going to be used much differently...Devin Brown is a much defensive player. And I will go on record as saying that he is already better than Barry ever will be.

That's no excuse for icing him though...but it will be used as such, and like it has in the past, it will hurt the team.

Pop sets a strict rotation and his mind is shackled by the set minutes thing that shackles many a mind in Spursville...

As for me? I can just look and see that breaking the strict rotation in 03...a move championed by Duncan, lead to us winning a le.


And as for what I am calling for...I didn't start this thread...the Barry haters did.

Check the first post...you'll see them giggiling about us paying a guy the MLE to suck ass. I don't find that ing funny...I think it's pretty ed up and I'm left wondering if Pop's luck(Kidd, Webber) has finally run out.

I don't think it's funny, and I think it's even less funny when I keep noticing the obvious achilles heel we have against teams with athletic 6'10 SF types...a hole that could have been filled with the money that instead we are spending on the pleasure of destroying Brent Barry and teaching him a lesson about wanting to play for this team.

[ChumpDumper]

Which means my criticism of Pop is valid

How does that change anything? It doesn't.

The deal..I could still call for Pop to back off of Barry because it's kind of stupid to pay a guy the MLE and not try to figure out how to get the most out of him.

So you reserve the right to flip-flop again and demand to play a destroyed player.

Understood.

I don't think it's funny, and I think it's even less funny when I keep noticing the obvious achilles heel we have against teams with athletic 6'10 SF types...a hole that could have been paid with the money that instead we are spending on the pleasure of destroying Brent Barry.

Don't worry about that -- if Barry is a weak as you say he is, he'll be IRed for Linton soon.

[whottt]

How does that change anything? It doesn't.So you reserve the right to flip-flop again and demand to play a destroyed player.

Ok dumb then I guess you continue to pay him the MLE to suck. ing stupid.


See my first post in this thread.

Understood.Don't worry about that -- if Barry is a weak as you say he is, he'll be IRed for Linton soon.

I never called him weak...and you agreed that he is struggling even worse since the yankem phase began.

If any healthy player gets IR'ed for LJ III, I am sure it will be Barry at this juncture...and I am sure his friends on this board will celebrate this. Like I said...the only people in the world tha think Brent Barry is a ty player reside here on this board.

But go ahead...I can't wait to see the posts of satisfaction by the Popnazis on the forum, at us paying a player the MLE to sit on the IR.

[ChumpDumper]

Ok dumb then I guess you continue to pay him the MLE to suck. ing stupid.

Damn right it would be stupid. Trade deadline is February.

I never called him weak.

You still think he can't recover by himself. You voted for giving him welfare minutes before you voted against it and voted for it again.

and you agreed that he is struggling even worse since the yankem phase began.

And I believe he doesn't need welfare to improve. I respect him as a player and a man.

Like I said...the only people in the world tha think Brent Barry is a ty player reside here on this board.

Along with the people who think he's such a ty and weak player that he can't improve without hugs and welfare.

Count me among neither.

[whottt]

Damn right it would be stupid. Trade deadline is February.

Yeah and Pop's always done a good job of making players with big contracts attractive looking midseason aquisitions to other teams. I mean hey there was like that one time he got that team to take..um...well there was that one times he pulled that slick midseason deal..and uh...uh...Yeah stick em in the doghouse. No one says "have I got a deal for you" like Pop does.

You still think he can't recover by himself.

I never said that, stupid.

You voted for giving him welfare minutes before you voted against it and voted for it again.

No dumbass...I am saying the same thing I have said throughout this thread...that I was saying at the beginning of it...it's just taken your dumbass this long to catch up to me.

And I believe he doesn't need welfare to improve. I respect him as a player and a man.Along with the people who think he's such a ty and weak player that he can't improve without hugs and welfare.

Count me among neither.

And I think you're stupid...again.

And I've seen you respect welfare recipients...so STFU Hedo.

[MannyIsGod]

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