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    Who wants a mustache ride oligarchy's Avatar
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    So that means Robert Horry should be considered the best player to ever play the game, right? 7 rings with exceptional talent in the league and 27 teams?

    forget that. I'm tired.

    Horry as GOAT

  2. #127
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    Kobe is a great player and is the best in the game today most likely but if you won't help him by comparing him to Jordan. In fact, it only makes people hate him more then they already do.

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    January Championship Banner? td4mvp21's Avatar
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    Who's won a le without another superstar on the team?

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Who's won a le without another superstar on the team?
    Duncan in 03.
    The whole Pistons team in 04.
    The Sonics team in 79.

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    Who's won a le without another superstar on the team?
    Not Timmie, He moved into Mr.Robinson's neighborhood for 2 and had the GOAT: Robert Horry on his team for the other two.


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    Kobe is a great player and is the best in the game today most likely but if you won't help him by comparing him to Jordan. In fact, it only makes people hate him more then they already do.
    "I see a lot of myself in him. No doubt about it.' - Michael Jordan

  7. #132
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    My bad, you're correct.
    Yeah, sorry. It was his second playoff appearance. He didn't make the playoffs his rookie year.

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    Kobe can't win a championship without Shaq. End of story. He doesn't make his team better either.

    Duncan can win a championship without Shaq AND makes his team better.

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    Kobe can't win a championship without Shaq. End of story. He doesn't make his team better either.

    Duncan can win a championship without Shaq AND makes his team better.
    I also heard that Jeff is a better drummer than Kobe

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    Kobe is the best SG and probably player with the talent and skill set in the world, but he isn't the type of player that will siginificantly improve the team and win a 'ship. Basically what I'm saying if you were to rate an individual player alone on skill set and talent Kobe would be up there near or at number 1. I can't compare TD and KB24, because they play different positions and PF/C's have it easier than guards. Everybody knows that dynasty's and championship caliber teams (excludes Jordan's Bulls) are built around a strong front court. Now, if Kobe was a 6-11 - 7 foot PF/C, then that would be BALLIN'

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    We'll see if the USA team wins the Olympics and World's.....guarantee when they win, it will because of Kobe. They haven't done lately....their saviour is here.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    It'll be nice for Kobe to finally win something. Of course, Kobe was built for all-star teams.

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    You put Lebron or Wade on the Lakers team this past 3 seasons in the WESTERN CONFERENCE...and guarantee they are a lottery team.

    The East is unbelievably weak. People say Lebron took his team to the finals? He beat a Wiz team without Arenas or Butler. He beat a 3 man team with the Nets with 2 of the biggest chokers in the game: Jefferson and Carter. Then he hit his stride at the right time against a defensively weak Pistons team. Kobe goes on a tear like Lebron did in Game 5 on a regular basis. People forget that.

    Western conference is very, very hard compared to the East. Kobe isn't without his faults, he still doesn't have a good grasp on when to pass the ball and when to shoot, and sometimes he gets too compe ive if there is such a thing, and maybe he doesn't neccesarily make his teammates better the way a Duncan or Nash do........but then again he has Smush Parker, Brian Cook, and Sasha Vuijic to pass to. I'm not sure even Nash could make those players better!

    He's the best player in the game right now...and he's not retiring anytime soon. He still has time to win championships, score 82 points, etc. so he has time to become the greatest ever perhaps.

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    We'll see if the USA team wins the Olympics and World's.....guarantee when they win, it will because of Kobe. They haven't done lately....their saviour is here.
    after hearing this I just might root for USA to not even medal at the Olympics now.

    It sickens me to think that Kobe is the savior of anything other than Eagle County police officer boredom.

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    It sickens me to think that Kobe is the savior of anything other than Eagle County police officer boredom
    ....and there Mono...you lose all b-ball credibility and respect. Too sad...but then again it's forum for everyone to spout their opinions...to bad it's regarding on court behaviour not off court.

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    ....and there Mono...you lose all b-ball credibility and respect. Too sad...but then again it's forum for everyone to spout their opinions...to bad it's regarding on court behaviour not off court.
    how is this? i said nothing regarding Kobe's off court behavior....i just said he kept Eagle police officers busy for a few months....is that not true?

    the only credibility being killed is with any idiot who thinks Kobe comes anywhere close to Jordan's greatness.

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    We'll see if the USA team wins the Olympics and World's.....guarantee when they win, it will because of Kobe. They haven't done lately....their saviour is here.
    If Kobe pulls that off, he won't need a couple of more Championships to be considered the GOAT!

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    I still don't think Kobe is better than Jordan overall.....the stats and rings prove otherwise.

    But the whole point of this thread was to draw comparisons and that it's ok to compare MJ to KB....nothing more nothing less.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    it's ok to compare MJ to KB
    it's okay to compare anybody to MJ....it's been going on for 15 years now. it's just stupid to do it because ZERO players have come REMOTELY CLOSE to the greatness of Jordan.

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    If Kobe pulls that off, he won't need a couple of more Championships to be considered the GOAT!
    Pulls what off? Doing what the US team is SUPPOSED to do (winning gold), but can't because they are too ing lazy to play the right way?

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    it's okay to compare anybody to MJ....it's been going on for 15 years now. it's just stupid to do it because ZERO players have come REMOTELY CLOSE to the greatness of Jordan.
    Although he will never be as good or better than Jordan, IMO, Kobe will go down as the greatest SCORER to ever play the game. Personally I think he is a little more gifted than Jordan was offensively. But hes not as good of a defender, and nowhere nearly as good of a leader and winner.

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    Pulls what off? Doing what the US team is SUPPOSED to do (winning gold), but can't because they are too ing lazy to play the right way?
    they have no shot in at playing sound team ball if Kobe is there

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    Although he will never be as good or better than Jordan, IMO, Kobe will go down as the greatest SCORER to ever play the game. Personally I think he is a little more gifted than Jordan was offensively. But hes not as good of a defender, and nowhere nearly as good of a leader and winner.
    yeah maybe so. i've also said before that Kobe is more physically gifted than Jordan.....but he'll never come close to the master Jordan was.

    You either have to be a Lakers homer or have to be so young that you never saw Jordan in his prime to think that Kobe can even compare to Jordan.

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    I still don't think Kobe is better than Jordan overall.....the stats and rings prove otherwise.

    But the whole point of this thread was to draw comparisons and that it's ok to compare MJ to KB....nothing more nothing less.
    True dat MJ is MJ, and Kobe is Kobe, Mike has more rings and Finals MVP, but 3 les, an 81 point game ( 2nd highest total in the history of the NBA ), 62 in 3 quarters, four 50 point games in a row, all wins (never accomplished before) is nothing to sneeze at. Kobe deserves his due and it is not out of reach that one day he will be considered the GOAT. Most definitely will be a legend!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=FRQNre51P8I

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    LOL that whole time all I could think during every highlight was "travel.....travel.....another travel......MASSIVE TRAVEL he took like 6 steps......travel.....travel"

    eventually i just shut it off, couldn't take it anymore.

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