Spurs Sign Ian Mahinmi (Now Official)

[T Park]

Chumper hasn't said Mascot > Player yet, so hes 100% wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe Presti left the Spurs before Ian could sully his reputation.

[LilMissSPURfect]

my 2cents worth....

Im excited to see what the boy got!

[BronxCowboy]

Well, that's assuming that the success of a draft pick is just a random event. While there is some luck involved, one could argue that some organizations are better than others at evaluating talent, and thus if they have done a better job in the past are more likely to do a better job in the future.

Which would actually mean that your odds are better if you've done it before, if anything, which is the opposite of the point the previous poster was trying to make, I think.

[Bruno]

Realgm trade checker use a 80% of the rookie scale salary to Mahinmi ($625,840). They said that they sold an upgraded version of their trade checker to nba teams so it's possible that theirs numbers aren't speculation but numbers they get from the nba FO.

Given that Spurs are in the luxury tax area this year and will be bellow next year, it makes more sense for Spurs to give Mahinmi 80% this year and 120% next year than 100% each year.

Giving Mahinmi less than 120% doesn't make a lot of sense to me unless Spurs trade Beno. Giving 80% of the rookie scale to Mahinmi for his first year will allow Spurs to stay under the tax and sign both Williams and a PG for the min if they dump Beno. With 100% or 120% of the rookie scale, Spurs will be above the luxury tax if they dump Beno, sign Williams and a PG for the min.

[objective]

where on the trade checker pages does it list salary?

[timvp]

Realgm trade checker use a 80% of the rookie scale salary to Mahinmi ($625,840). They said that they sold an upgraded version of their trade checker to nba teams so it's possible that theirs numbers aren't speculation but numbers they get from the nba FO.

Given that Spurs are in the luxury tax area this year and will be bellow next year, it makes more sense for Spurs to give Mahinmi 80% this year and 120% next year than 100% each year.

Giving Mahinmi less than 120% doesn't make a lot of sense to me unless Spurs trade Beno. Giving 80% of the rookie scale to Mahinmi for his first year will allow Spurs to stay under the tax and sign both Williams and a PG for the min if they dump Beno. With 100% or 120% of the rookie scale, Spurs will be above the luxury tax if they dump Beno, sign Williams and a PG for the min.

timvp is one crafty fellow.

But yeah, 80% even surprises me. I knew the Spurs had Mahinmi in a situation in which he had no leverage at all. Basically, whatever the Spurs offered, Mahinmi had to take. He had no realistic alternative at this time.

As I said from the beginning, the Spurs don't operate in a manner where they'd give the maximum salary to a player just because it's customary. That's especially true in this scenario in which the Spurs could be $100K from being under or over the lux tax threshold depending on what transpires the rest of the summer.

And I don't buy the argument that the Spurs have to give Mahinmi the max or else he could get mad down the road. First of all, the Spurs took a risk on him in the first place by drafting him in the first round and guaranteeing him millions at the age of 18. Second of all, even if he's mad, with the new way the rules work he's a restricted free agent anyways. Third of all, if he's actually good, he's not going to remember a couple hundred thousand dollars in contract negotiations when he was dying to join the Spurs in the first place.

[Bruno]

where on the trade checker pages does it list salary?

They don't give the true salary, they use a different scale.
Mahinmi number (2.4) is about 80% of the rookie scale.

[objective]

They don't give the true salary, they use a different scale.
Mahinmi number (2.4) is about 80% of the rookie scale.

what number is the .024 multiplied by to figure the salary?

I'm trying to understand Scola's number (11.3)

[Bruno]

what number is the .024 multiplied by to figure the salary?

I'm trying to understand Scola's number (11.3)

0.1 should be a around $26K.
11.3 give $2.938M.
espn is using $2,916,667 for Scola's salary on their trade machine.

[AFBlue]

not saying he is going to replace duncan but alot of people said david was not replaceable then they got a fellow named duncan

Duncan was a consensus #1 pick with the "franchise player" label already attached to him at least two years prior to him putting his name into the draft.

The Spurs weren't sure they were getting a Duncan replacement, but they were sure he wasn't an 18yr old developmental player that would be left overseas for a couple years and have a lot of projection to being an NBA regular.

[AFBlue]

Ian was drafted at 18 yo as an unknown european prospect, TD at 21 as the best NCAA player.

I figure as an undrafted prospect, and with one more year of developpement overseas, he may have been a top 10 pick in next year's draft...

Not with his 05-06 numbers....

Sure there would've been someone to take a shot at him in the 06 draft, but I doubt it would've been in the lottery. When the spurs drafted this guy he didn't even make it on the draft-night program.

Spurs REALLY came out of left field with that pick....but let's hope they knew what they were doing.

[mathbzh]

Ian was drafted at 18 yo as an unknown european prospect, TD at 21 as the best NCAA player.

I figure as an undrafted prospect, and with one more year of developpement overseas, he may have been a top 10 pick in next year's draft...

My point was just to say that it is not realistic to imagine Ian or Tiago will replace Duncan. Ian has a huge potential and I still consider he was a good pick and that it is a smart move to give him a contract. But if he doesn't develop into a legitimate NBA player I will no be mad at the Spurs FO. With the 28th pick you can't find a Parker every year (and I don't even speak about Ginobili)

[Freeze]

My point was just to say that it is not realistic to imagine Ian or Tiago will replace Duncan. Ian has a huge potential and I still consider he was a good pick and that it is a smart move to give him a contract. But if he doesn't develop into a legitimate NBA player I will no be mad at the Spurs FO. With the 28th pick you can't find a Parker every year (and I don't even speak about Ginobili)

And I totally agree with you, what I meant is that we just don't know how good he will be in one year... as we didn't know for TP, Beno, Gino,.... at the time we drafted them.
And of course TD was a totally different story due to his great NCAA career.