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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Did you look at the link I provided. Thought not, you
    discuss like a teenager. Or should I say disgust. You and
    clambake. The Clintons have been mixed up with
    Chinese for so many years it is pitiful.


    They have taken money from so many crooks for
    favors given back. How about Rich and Billarys
    brother selling favors. Of course she was shocked,
    shocked, do you hear. Rich wife gave him a little
    head and about two million dollars or somewhere
    thereabout for his library and got a pardon for her
    husband. All the Chinese disappeared back to
    China or whatever so they wouldn't or couldn't
    testify about their "donations". Give me a freakin
    break. And you want a link I will give you one,
    google it.
    Why would the Chinese run and hide ray? That would mean that they have somehting to hide. What are they trying to hide? The reason I ask is because you sure throw those accusations around but have yet to provide 1 piece of evidence that the clintons have done anything wrong in regards to anything.


    Let me guess your repsonse. " Prove they haven't done anything wrong because it's not my job"..

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    Why would the Chinese run and hide ray? That would mean that they have somehting to hide. What are they trying to hide? The reason I ask is because you sure throw those accusations around but have yet to provide 1 piece of evidence that the clintons have done anything wrong in regards to anything.


    Let me guess your repsonse. " Prove they haven't done anything wrong because it's not my job"..
    If I didn't know you knew better I would tell you to live
    in ignorance. But you do know better. So I will leave
    it at that. Prove they did anything wrong. You know
    they have and will continue to do so. You give them
    a pass I wont. But it shows how you look at things. You
    live with it, I don't have to.

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    50. Because I'm tired of working hard and my fellow man having to painfully lay on his couch all day because he does not have enough money to eat and provide himself with enough energy to apply for a job. How much longer must we work while others suffer...

    Socialism FTW!
    Last edited by Switchman; 09-12-2007 at 02:41 PM.

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    50. Because I'm tired of working hard and my fellow man having to lay on his couch all day because he does not have enough money to eat and provide himself with enough energy to apply for a job. How much longer must we work while others suffer...

    Socialism FTW!
    You are so cruel. You want these poor souls to actually
    go to work. Or at least try.

    SA210 where are you when we need you. You could
    sit this person Switchman straight.

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    Did you look at the link I provided.
    I write for Salon now?

    I was asking for a link to what I posted.

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    ^^Do what? Two beers and you talk funny! You ask me
    for a link to something you posted?

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    I didn't ask you for anything.

    I asked gtown for a link to what he claimed I posted.

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    I didn't ask you for anything.

    I asked gtown for a link to what he claimed I posted.
    Never mind, I stand corrected.

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    Prove a negative?

    If you're not lying, all you have to do is provide a link proving your accusation.
    You could look it up yourself.

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    You're the one with something to prove.

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    Never mind, I stand corrected.

    Something Bush and Chump will never say

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    I just did yesterday. You guys aren't very quick on the draw.

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    50. Because I'm tired of working hard and my fellow man having to painfully lay on his couch all day because he does not have enough money to eat and provide himself with enough energy to apply for a job. How much longer must we work while others suffer...

    Socialism FTW!

    I too, am tired of working hard and then being taxed to enrich the management and fellow shareholders of companies through subsidies, inflated contracts, changing the leadership of a state through invasion, etc... who would rather not work hard and compete in the marketplace outright.

    Capitalism. Maybe one day we'll try it.

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    You should google me.
    Pervert.

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    I too, am tired of working hard and then being taxed to enrich the management and fellow shareholders of companies through subsidies, inflated contracts, changing the leadership of a state through invasion, etc... who would rather not work hard and compete in the marketplace outright.

    Capitalism. Maybe one day we'll try it.
    Then maybe you should talk to all you liberal friends along
    with the Republican politico's who write the tax codes.

    And you could start right here in San Antonio with your
    city council and their give aways to all kinds. Quest and
    Microsoft being at the opposite ends of the spectrum.

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    Then maybe you should talk to all you liberal friends along
    with the Republican politico's who write the tax codes.

    And you could start right here in San Antonio with your
    city council and their give aways to all kinds. Quest and
    Microsoft being at the opposite ends of the spectrum.
    Dumbass, I'm not a liberal.

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    Dumbass, I'm not a liberal.
    You talk like one. And act like one. So you must be one.

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    Let's see, I'm a "liberal" because I do not believe the federal government should intervene in the economy, instead preferring to have a free and open marketplace with low taxes, no stiffling regulations, sound money, and free trade with all. Yeah.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Dumbass, I'm not a liberal.

    You have to undertsand something about ray. He's a ' black or white with no grey area' type of person. When bush made the following comment " Y'er either with us or against us", he was talking to the ray / Yoni types. Of course no one knew at the time Bush was also talking to Democrats when he made that statement.

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    You have to undertsand something about ray. He's a ' black or white with no grey area' type of person. When bush made the following comment " Y'er either with us or against us", he was talking to the ray / Yoni types. Of course no one knew at the time Bush was also talking to Democrats when he made that statement.
    You bet you sweet rear end He was. And I hope he still
    means it. And yeah he was talking to all Americans. And
    I think that has been proven here on this forum. Soo
    GGA, are you with us or against us......It is your
    choice.

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    I am very much against stupid decisions made by stupid people. If you feel compelled to kiss the ass of an idiot because he has a government job, that's your thing -- not mine.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    You bet you sweet rear end He was. And I hope he still
    means it. And yeah he was talking to all Americans. And
    I think that has been proven here on this forum. Soo
    GGA, are you with us or against us......It is your
    choice.

    I'm with 'us' ray!! Just against the unecessary war.. I'm against scarificing US blood for nothing.. little stuuf like that I'm against..

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    GGA, can you really say that the blood of our US troops has been
    for nothing. I don't think so. Can you in all honesty say that
    when the head cheese, OBL, himself says that Iraq is the battle
    to be won.

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    Wouldn't it be better if we had actually kept going after Osama and Zawahiri?

    The head cheeses?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    GGA, can you really say that the blood of our US troops has been
    for nothing. I don't think so. Can you in all honesty say that
    when the head cheese, OBL, himself says that Iraq is the battle
    to be won.

    US surge has failed - Iraqi poll

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983841.stm

    US surge has failed - Iraqi poll
    About 70% of Iraqis believe security has deteriorated in the area covered by the US military "surge" of the past six months, an opinion poll suggests.
    The survey by the BBC, ABC News and NHK of more than 2,000 people across Iraq also suggests that nearly 60% see attacks on US-led forces as justified.

    This rises to 93% among Sunni Muslims compared to 50% for Shia.

    The findings come as the top US commander in Iraq, Gen David Petraeus, prepares to address Congress.


    He and US Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker are due to testify about the effects of the surge and the current situation in Iraq.

    The poll suggests that the overall mood in Iraq is as negative as it has been since the US-led invasion in 2003, says BBC world affairs correspondent Nick Childs.

    The poll was conducted in more than 450 neighbourhoods across all 18 provinces of Iraq in August, and has a margin of error of + or - 2.5%.

    It was commissioned jointly by the BBC, ABC and Japan's NHK.



    It is the fourth such poll in which BBC News has been involved, with previous ones conducted in February 2004, November 2005 and February 2007.



    It was commissioned with the specific purpose of assessing the effects of the surge as well as tracking longer term trends in Iraq.

    Between 67% and 70% of the Iraqis polled believe the surge has hampered conditions for political dialogue, reconstruction and economic development, according to the August 2007 findings.


    Only 29% think things will get better in the next year, compared to 64% two years ago.

    The number of people wanting coalition forces to leave immediately rose since February's poll but more than half - 53% - still said they should stay until security improved.

    The survey reveals two great divides, our correspondent notes.

    First, there is the one between relative optimism registered in November 2005 and the gloom of this year's two polls.

    In between, there was the deadly bombing of the Shia mosque in Samarra, which unleashed a bitter and deadly sectarianism.

    The other great divide is the one now revealed between the Sunni and Shia communities.

    While 88% of Sunnis say things are going badly in their lives, 54% of Shia think they are going well.


    Dr Toby Dodge, who was involved in running the poll, pointed to the fact that so many Iraqis saw no improvement to their safety since the US deployed an extra 30,000 troops this year, bringing their number up to nearly 170,000.


    "I think that's a damning critique and an indication of the pessimism and the violence on the ground," he told the BBC's Radio Five Live.

    Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki insisted on Monday that the surge had had a positive effect in the capital, Baghdad, at least.

    Violence had dropped 75%, he told the Iraqi parliament, without giving figures.

    At the same time, he warned that Iraqi forces were not ready to take over security from the US military which had, he said, "helped... in a great way in fighting terrorism".

    Uh oh ray..maybe they don't like us fighting for 'our' freedom in their country.

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