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  1. #126
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    It may be "hard to tell" if Jordan would have won 6 les without Pippen. But it's a fact that Pippen would not have won 6 les without Jordan. If you deny that, you're full of .
    Did you read the post before the one you quoted? The part about Pippen owing his success and rings to Jordan and what not?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Oh and Mono....Dirk and you're hapless Mavs didn't get out of the first round either...too bad really.
    And that's relevant how?

    That's right, it's not. You brought it up since you don't have anything of substance to say. Thanks, now go get your in shinebox.

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    Did you read the post before the one you quoted? The part about Pippen owing his success and rings to Jordan and what not?
    Sure did. So you mean to tell me you think Pippen had a better chance of leading a team to a le without Jordan, than Jordan did without Pippen? If so, you're a ing moron.

  4. #129
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    We had this same discussion alittle while back. Some mavs fans just don't get it!

    Fact: Michael Jordan did not win a le without Phil Jackson or Scotty Pippen! They can flip it anyway that they like, but it remains a "FACT"
    Fact: Jordan won six les, which is three more than Kobe.

    Fact: Kobe did not win a le without Phil Jackson or Shaquille O'Neal.

    Fact: You are not a Lakers fan. You are a Rockets fan.

  5. #130
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    MJ was an asshole. He was, is, and will be an arrogant jerk. He won 6 les, so people overlook his personality problems. People compare Kobe to MJ and claim, "See, they're no different. People should kiss Bryant's ass like they did for MJ." My point is that MJ was always walking a thin line. A few spectacular failures would have led to him wearing the "cancer" label as well.
    Are you re ed? All analysts do nothing EXCEPT kiss Kobe's ass.

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    Sure did. So you mean to tell me you think Pippen had a better chance of leading a team to a le without Jordan, than Jordan did without Pippen? If so, you're a ing moron.
    So you mean to tell me that Jordan would have won 6 rings without Pippen? If so your a ing moron.

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    It's far more believable than Pippen leading the Bulls without Jordan to les. Is it not?

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    ying and yang


    pippen couldn't lead squit without jordan

  9. #134
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    Fact: Jordan won six les, which is three more than Kobe.

    Fact: Kobe did not win a le without Phil Jackson or Shaquille O'Neal.

    Fact: You are not a Lakers fan. You are a Rockets fan.
    Fact: you are a dumbass mavs fan! No disputing that!
    Last edited by LakeShow; 10-15-2007 at 08:03 PM.

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    Fact: you are a dumbass mavs fan! No disputing that!
    Fact: You don't know what the you are talking about, which is why you had to resort to such a lame attempt at an insult.

    Fact: You are still a Rockets fan.

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    Fact: THIS THREAD SUCKS

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    You know.....I've been a laker fan my whole life with exception when the Suns had Barkley and they were my only other hope to knock off Jordan....too bad it didnt' work.....damn paxon.....anyways....I have a feeling Kobe's gone....

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    Kobe not sure on playing next preseason game with tired legs
    Updated: October 15, 2007, 7:46 PM ET

    EL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Kobe Bryant sat out practice for the second straight day Monday because of a sore knee, and said he didn't know if he'd play in the Los Angeles Lakers' next exhibition game.

    The Lakers face the Seattle SuperSonics on Thursday night in Bakersfield -- the first of six exhibition games in nine days.

    Los Angeles coach Phil Jackson said Bryant asked to rest his legs, adding that treatment included ice and massage. Bryant wasn't available to the media afterward, but before leaving the Lakers' practice facility, he expressed uncertainty concerning Thursday night, saying he would continue treatment.

    Bryant has said very little to reporters since team owner Jerry Buss said last week in Honolulu that he "would certainly listen'' to trade offers for the Lakers' star.

    Bryant has four years, worth $88.6 million, left on his contract, but can terminate the deal in two years, leaving $47.8 million on the table. He asked to be traded 4˝ months ago, but told reporters on Oct. 1 that frustration led to his blowup and the time had come to move on.

    Five players sat out practice Sunday -- Bryant, Lamar Odom (shoulder) Maurice Evans (hamstring), Chris Mihm (ankle) and Kwame Brown (ankle), and Ronny Turiaf left after straining his neck. Derek Fisher sat out a scrimmage at the end of practice because of sore feet.

    All returned Monday except Bryant, although Odom's work was limited.

    "I feel like we're turning the corner on it,'' Jackson said regarding the injuries. "Lamar's got a ways to go. Other than that, we're pretty optimistic.''

    Odom won't play Thursday night, and Brown is considered doubtful. Jackson said there was a better chance that Brown would play this weekend. The Lakers, Clippers, Phoenix Suns and Charlotte Bobcats will participate in doubleheaders Saturday and Sunday at Staples Center.

    Odom repeated what he said at the start of training camp -- that he plans to play in the season opener on Oct. 30 against the Houston Rockets.

    "I'm a gamer -- just throw me out there,'' said Odom, who underwent surgery for a torn labrum in his left [shooting] shoulder last spring. "I'm ready to play, but I have to take my time. For right now, everything seems positive. I might not need any exhibition games.''

    When asked how much pain he was in, Odom replied: "It's not as much as when I first did it. I play with that.''

    Odom sat out five games last March after being diagnosed with a torn labrum. He underwent surgery after the Lakers were eliminated by the Suns in the first round of the playoffs.

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3065296

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    You put Jordan in his prime sellling out various teammates and coaches with this type of atmosphere, you'll probably have similar "cancer" type labels if he was unable to get out of the first round of the playoffs.
    Amended for accuracy.

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    Just like when a great teammate MJ was with the Wiz.....yeah a lot of teammates love playing with him and they did so well......

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    Just like when a great teammate MJ was with the Wiz.....yeah a lot of teammates love playing with him and they did so well......
    we'll see how great kobe is when he's 39.

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    oh, noes!!!

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    Just like when a great teammate MJ was with the Wiz.....yeah a lot of teammates love playing with him and they did so well......
    Yeah, the Kobe to Jordan comparisons work much better when Jordan was past his prime and wasn't winning.

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    we'll see how great kobe is when he's 39.
    The point is that Kobe's about as good now as Jordan was when he was 39.

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    Yea, Jordan was like 38 and had a 51 point game. His last year in the NBA, he was 39 and turned 40, and still averaged 20 PPG, 6 RPG, and 4 APG, scoring 30 or more nine times, and 40 or more three times. Not to mention, he made the All-Star team those two years, and he had a terrible and unfocused team nearly in the playoffs in his last.

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    WGAF whether Kobe is as good as Jordan? Kobe's awesome and would the Mavs a serious contender.

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    Fact: You don't know what the you are talking about, which is why you had to resort to such a lame attempt at an insult.

    Fact: You are still a Rockets fan.
    Why even bother with this discussion? You say Pippen would not have won without Jordan, for the sake of Arguments, I SAY, Jordan would not have won without Pippen! I have FACTS to back up my argument, you have nothing but your idiotic assumptions that he would have. That's not enough and groundless!

    Say no to drugs! A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Dumbass !

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    Why even bother with this discussion? You say Pippen would not have won without Jordan, for the sake of Arguments, I SAY, Jordan would not have won without Pippen! I have FACTS to back up my argument, you have nothing but your idiotic assumptions that he would have. That's not enough and groundless!

    Say no to drugs! A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Dumbass !
    How many minutes is Steve Francis projected to get this year?

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    Why even bother with this discussion? You say Pippen would not have won without Jordan, for the sake of Arguments, I SAY, Jordan would not have won without Pippen! I have FACTS to back up my argument, you have nothing but your idiotic assumptions that he would have. That's not enough and groundless!

    Say no to drugs! A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Dumbass !
    So give me a reason to believe it is an "idiodic assumption" that Pippen would not have led the Bulls without Jordan to a le (which in fact, he did not, which likewise, is a FACT). Please explain, Rockets fan.

    Another thing, I never said for a fact, that he WOULD lead the Bulls to a le without Pippen. I said that it is much more likely though, than for Pippen to have led the Bulls to a le without Jordan.

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    So give me a reason to believe it is an "idiodic assumption" that Pippen would not have led the Bulls without Jordan to a le (which in fact, he did not, which likewise, is a FACT). Please explain, Rockets fan.

    Another thing, I never said for a fact, that he WOULD lead the Bulls to a le without Pippen. I said that it is much more likely though, than for Pippen to have led the Bulls to a le without Jordan.
    It may be "hard to tell" if Jordan would have won 6 les without Pippen. But it's a fact that Pippen would not have won 6 les without Jordan. If you deny that, you're full of .
    You said this above, ing !

    Assumptions! That's all you have. You can't call that a fact if he never had an opportunity to prove otherwise. They played together during those 6 les, so you have no facts. The correct statement would be that Pippen DID not win a le without Jordan! That's a fact!! Ignoramus!

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