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    OK, hitmanyr2k, you're off the hook. Sequ took your stupidity le.
    That are sarcasm guy. Sequ has been the biggest Beno hater on this forum. And why are people creaming about one game? , Oberto's had some 10 of 10 games in the past, I doubt he's All-Star material.

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    Lindsey Hunter took down Beno's pants and had him at midcourt on national TV in the 2005 Finals...repeatedly. It was the beginning of Beno's downfall.
    Tony got abused during those Finals as well, which is why Barry got serious PG minutes in games 6 and 7.

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    The circle is complete - my supervisor just added Beno to his fantasy team.
    So did I.

    The fantasy shame I will endure for generations will be humiliating.

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    Why is this so difficult for people to understand?

    Beno is a talented player. When he first played in 2004, it was clear off the bat he had better court vision than Tony Parker, though he wasn't near the player overall that Tony was. That is why he settled immediately into the backup role. He looked promising.

    But he plateaued quickly. Maybe he thought he deserved to start over Parker. Apparently that was the case. Well, that was never going to happen in San Antonio. Pop had committed to going with Parker. Parker rapidly was developing into an elite NBA player.

    Then came the debacle against the Pistons in the Finals. Beno's flaw was exposed for all to see -- he struggles to handle the ball against pressure. He got benched. For those saying, "Yeah, well Tony got owned, too," please, shut the up. Tony struggled against the stronger Billups, but he did not turn the ball over every single possession when he was pressured by Lindsey freaking Hunter. Beno literally lost the ball every time up the floor.

    From there, it seems clear that the problem with Beno was all about at ude. He felt en led to minutes. Well, in San Antonio, that doesn't happen. Rather than working on his ballhandling, he sulked. He chose to sit out whenever he had an ache or a pain.

    Even with all those problems, the Spurs held onto him through two more seasons to see if he ever would snap out of it. (That says something -- usually players with bad at udes are on the first bus out of town.) Instead, he spent his time gaining weight and getting laid.

    Talent never was the issue with Beno. It was motivation. I thought maybe he was just too lazy and too much of a diva to put in the work necessary to succeed. It turns out he was just bitter about his situation in San Antonio.

    One good game in Sacramento does not a player make. There are still obvious issues about his character, his willingness to deal with adversity, and of course his ability to handle the ball against pressure. There are a lot of players who can put up nice stats on bad teams -- it doesn't make them elite players. Beno spent three seasons on a good team, most of it pouting.

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    I haven't seen anybody on the current roster being yelled at as much as Tony was in his first years.

    I stopped caring about Beno when he started inventing reasons for his failure blaming everybody except himself. The NVE debacle was bad but please don't use it as an excuse for his behavior. He was asked - and given the opportunity - to lead a championship caliber team and failed. Was he under pressure? sure he was - ask Manu whether he feels any pressure!

    I'm horrible at holding grudges and hope he does well, but please don't use 4 decent games on the Kings as proof of Pop's incompetence. I wish him well but at the end of the day this bares to be repeated:
    POP isn't incompetent (4 rings and so on), but he can't change his method unless you are named Manu, remember first year or so when "Manu was Manu" and POP asked him ON National TV "why don't you act like a human being".

    POP is a successful coach, but some guys wont fit with his method and style, anyhow ... you will agree with that POP is boring

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    This thread is getting more and more stupid by the page. But I learned something.
    He raided your town, took your money and porked your women!? And got fat in the process?


    Beno Udrih must be some freaking VIKING!

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    Rasho was another who was coddled. I remember pop once saying that he couldn't yell at rasho because rasho would get upset...
    Where on earth did you get that from- it could not be any farther from the truth. Pop did not coddle Rasho at all. He was very hard on him and expected and demanded a lot from him. In many ways Pop is the hardest on the guys that he brings in, the ones that he believes so much in and wants to see succeed. Rasho ≠ Beno.

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    He raided your town, took your money and porked your women!? And got fat in the process?
    The thing is-- I wish that people would actually talk about what Beno did basketball-wise. The whole routine on here about clubbing and women got old about 2 years ago. They really have nothing to do with whether or not Beno could have succeeded as a Spur. If going out too much meant you could not succeed, then Tony Parker would have never been the NBA Finals MVP, and Robert Horry certainly would not have all those rings, as they go out as much as Beno did.

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    Rasho was another who was coddled. I remember pop once saying that he couldn't yell at rasho because rasho would get upset...

    no way was parker coddled, as already said...

    I remember all the yelling on the sidelines with pop in parkers face.
    If Pop said that, he was being sarcastic.

    The difference between the criticism Rasho received from the media and fans, and the criticism he got in private from Pop, is that Pop's expectations focused on what Rasho could do, not what he couldn't.

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    The thing is-- I wish that people would actually talk about what Beno did basketball-wise. The whole routine on here about clubbing and women got old about 2 years ago. They really have nothing to do with whether or not Beno could have succeeded as a Spur. If going out too much meant you could not succeed, then Tony Parker would have never been the NBA Finals MVP, and Robert Horry certainly would not have all those rings, as they go out as much as Beno did.
    Beno could not have succeeded as a Spur because his priority was getting playing time for himself and completely misunderstood why he didn't get more playing time.

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    The thing is-- I wish that people would actually talk about what Beno did basketball-wise. The whole routine on here about clubbing and women got old about 2 years ago. They really have nothing to do with whether or not Beno could have succeeded as a Spur. If going out too much meant you could not succeed, then Tony Parker would have never been the NBA Finals MVP, and Robert Horry certainly would not have all those rings, as they go out as much as Beno did.
    I know you would, but as you see people in here are more interested in Benos man purse. They want to know about his BLING and stuff, don't bother them with facts. Also you can find about 20 Dr. Phils on this board. They know everything about everything. They will teach the rest of us the one and only truth and your resistance is futile.

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    Beno Udrih must be some freaking VIKING!

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    I know you would, but as you see people in here are more interested in Benos man purse. They want to know about his BLING and stuff, don't bother them with facts. Also you can find about 20 Dr. Phils on this board. They know everything about everything. They will teach the rest of us the one and only truth and your resistance is futile.
    Did Beno father your child or something?

    He's a backup point guard who sucked during his tenure with the Spurs. The Spurs won another le with him out of the rotation, and his success or failure had absolutely no bearing on any of the weaknesses which doomed the Spurs in 2006, nor those which might afflict the Spurs in the forseeable future. Being bitter about Beno is just stupid. He's still nothing to write home about.

    Why would people be bitter about Beno playing well in one game with the Kings? Why would there be any emotional attachment to him whatsoever? Hedo Turkoglu is playing like a borderline All-Star in Orlando, yet I don't see any threads decrying the Spurs' getting rid of him three years ago.

    The Spurs were so fixated on getting Jason Kidd four years ago that they drafted Leandro Barbosa and traded him to Phoenix for cap space. They also passed on a guy named Josh Howard, who Dallas selected immediately thereafter, and who I've heard has given the Spurs occasional difficulties in games. Funny, where are those threads right now?

    The difference between those gaffes and the beno Udrih saga is that they have actual bearing on something that really matters in actual games.

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    WWaauuu!

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    Did Beno father your child or something?

    He's a backup point guard who sucked during his tenure with the Spurs. The Spurs won another le with him out of the rotation, and his success or failure had absolutely no bearing on any of the weaknesses which doomed the Spurs in 2006, nor those which might afflict the Spurs in the forseeable future. Being bitter about Beno is just stupid. He's still nothing to write home about.

    Why would people be bitter about Beno playing well in one game with the Kings? Why would there be any emotional attachment to him whatsoever? Hedo Turkoglu is playing like a borderline All-Star in Orlando, yet I don't see any threads decrying the Spurs' getting rid of him three years ago.

    The Spurs were so fixated on getting Jason Kidd four years ago that they drafted Leandro Barbosa and traded him to Phoenix for cap space. They also passed on a guy named Josh Howard, who Dallas selected immediately thereafter, and who I've heard has given the Spurs occasional difficulties in games. Funny, where are those threads right now?

    The difference between those gaffes and the beno Udrih saga is that they have actual bearing on something that really matters in actual games.
    As I can see, you would like to know more about his man purse.

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    lol we Rockets need a guard, can we have Ginobili for a next years first round draft pick and some cash? hahahahahahaha

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    The thing is-- I wish that people would actually talk about what Beno did basketball-wise. The whole routine on here about clubbing and women got old about 2 years ago. They really have nothing to do with whether or not Beno could have succeeded as a Spur. If going out too much meant you could not succeed, then Tony Parker would have never been the NBA Finals MVP, and Robert Horry certainly would not have all those rings, as they go out as much as Beno did.

    I have talked about the basketball side of things. The other stuff intrudes though, because he made going out a priority. He got out of shape. His at ude while out was that of a superstar wannabe, and it is clear that he felt he was being underutilized and that his talents were wasted.

    Chump summed it up succintly, so I don't need to repeat what he said. But he always looked elsewhere for the reasons he was not receiving playing time, when the reason was staring back at him in the mirror everyday.

    I don't wish him ill, and I'm glad for his sake that he's getting another chance somewhere and appearing to make use of it. But his comments indicate to me that he's probably not shed the ego that caused many of his problems in SA. I'm beyond thrilled that he's gone.

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    ok, that is obviously impossible but...here's a Spurs deal that will be sure to make the front office happy. Washington for cash and a first round draft pick. Don't laugh, your front office might actually do that one LMAO!!!

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    As I can see, you would like to know more about his man purse.
    I am much more interested in Lasko beer than I am in Beano's man-purse.

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    I am much more interested in Lasko beer than I am in Beano's man-purse.
    Now I can hear you!

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    ok, that is obviously impossible but...here's a Spurs deal that will be sure to make the front office happy. Washington for cash and a first round draft pick. Don't laugh, your front office might actually do that one LMAO!!!
    If it's a good draft pick, why not?

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    This thread is getting more and more stupid by the page. But I learned something.
    He raided your town, took your money and porked your women!? And got fat in the process?
    Beno Udrih must be some freaking VIKING!
    keep reading

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    If it's a good draft pick, why not?

    Yeah that actually sounds nice.

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    cept that the Rockets will have an overall winning records and as a playoff team they will have a low first round pick.

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    ok, that is obviously impossible but...here's a Spurs deal that will be sure to make the front office happy. Washington for cash and a first round draft pick. Don't laugh, your front office might actually do that one LMAO!!!
    Darius Washington for cash and a pick around 25 or so?

    That's actually highway robbery in favor of the Spurs.

    I guess we can be certain you aren't Daryl Morey.

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