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    Eh, Splitter might be a mistake to give up on.

    Tyrus Thomas could possibly be just a smarter version of Stromile Swift.

    The Spurs have had their share of lazy unmotivated players.

    Devin Brown, JR Reid etc....

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    WTF? some dude drops a name nd san antonio nd now we're all speculating..Shows we're desperate lol.
    Thomas would be awesome, but we're not even talkin' about rumours.

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    I'd think giving up Splitter for Thomas a bad trade, but what do I know. He just seems a smarter ball player who can become a full-time starter in this league. Thomas looks more like a great bench hustle guy or a guy who can fit on a starting lineup tailor-made to cover his deficiencies.

    That said, I'd trade Mahinmi + draft pick for Thomas. Not Splitter, though.

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    Agreed Body.

    Im very high on Splitter, iffy on Mahinmi.

    If you can turn Mahinmi plus this years pick, into a top 5 lottery selection who could fit in great on this team? That would be a fantastic move.

    That all being said, the Spurs won't get this guy.

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    Do we really want Tyrus Thomas? Sure he's athletic and was a high pick, but he hasn't developed, his at ude has been questioned, and he has no bball IQ. He also will earn a much higher salary than either Mahinmi or Splitter. Does any of that translate to success with Pop, or the NBA for that matter? What's the best he can be potentially? Samuel Dalembert?? No thanks!

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tyrus+thomas+lazy
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    I think we're really underappreciating what we have in Mahinmi and Splitter. Both have shown to be humble and hard-working players who improve steadily. Athletically they are not as freakish as Thomas, but they are a huge step up from what we have now.

    Just for comparison

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    Do we really want Tyrus Thomas? Sure he's athletic and was a high pick, but he hasn't developed, his at ude has been questioned, and he has no bball IQ. He also will earn a much higher salary than either Mahinmi or Splitter. Does any of that translate to success with Pop, or the NBA for that matter? What's the best he can be potentially? Samuel Dalembert?? No thanks!
    First of all, if Tyrus Thomas is the next Dalembert, sign me up. The guy's having a very nice season.

    I'd say Yes, we could use Thomas, but there's a reason the Bulls drafted essentially the same exact player the following year in Joakim Noah. Even if he's a bit taller, Noah can't shoot, either, is a bundle of energy, rebounds, blocks shots.

    TT gets 4.4 rpg at only 13 minutes played per, a stat which I'm sure is almost completely driving timvp's advocacy. But why in the world only 13 mpg? He gets nearly a steal and a block per in that time, which looks very good. About 1.4 opg or so, which is less impressive when you realize he only shoots 38%, amazingly bad for a Power Forward.

    If you've estimated Mahinmi won't get the job done, then see if you can get Thomas. But I really don't think you're finding any kind of future starter. You're getting - I you not - Renaldo Balkman.

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    I wouldn't mind Renaldo Balkman on the Spurs.

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    hey it could bring back the famous high-low play that timmy and drob did so well

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    I wouldn't mind Renaldo Balkman on the Spurs.
    YEAH!!

    A long three who can rebound, plays defense, and doesn't need plays run for him; who gets his points of the offence breaking down and fast breaks. Who brings non-stop energy.

    Isn't that pretty much what the doctor has been ordering for the last god knows how long!

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    Except Thomas doesn't run back on defense and is a bunch more expensive.

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    Except Thomas doesn't run back on defense and is a bunch more expensive.
    I thought he was on rookie year salary?

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    I thought he was on rookie year salary?
    Rookie contracts escalate considerably the higher the pick, so Thomas (4th pick) makes $3.5 million per year and Balkman (20th pick) makes $1.23 million per year.

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    Tyrus Thomas not playing tonight (vs. Sonics)?

    I keed, I keed.

    But seriously. He's not seen the floor.

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    Tyrus Thomas not playing tonight (vs. Sonics)?

    I keed, I keed.

    But seriously. He's not seen the floor.
    He's not had playing time as much as he had last year. Probably at ude and not-using-his-potential problems. I bet Noah would do the same next year.

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    It does seem curious, though, that he got zero minutes. Over the last couple of weeks he was at least getting on the floor.

    Edit: never mind, just noticed he has been hurt.

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    It does seem curious, though, that he got zero minutes. Over the last couple of weeks he was at least getting on the floor.

    Edit: never mind, just noticed he has been hurt.
    I think he's pretty steadily stuck at around 15 minutes when he's not stepping up for someone who is out with injury or when he's out himself. He is clearly behind Wallace, Noah, Joe Smith, and Andres Nocioni for the frontline.

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    Bonner for villanueva and Elson for Kryhpa.. These 2 trades will help this years team and for years to come + we hold on to picks and Ian...

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    The thing about players like T. Thomas and S. Swift is that the potential is there...

    Sometimes you need the right coach, situation, teammates to draw it out.

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    The thing about players like T. Thomas and S. Swift is that the potential is there...

    Sometimes you need the right coach, situation, teammates to draw it out.
    Huge potential is the thing with Thomas. Listening to David Thorpe talk about him, one get the impression that he is as much a 3 as a 4. That too, could really help the Spurs.

    I'm one of those that has also lobbied for C. Villanueva. I don't like him nearly as much as Thomas, but I do think that the Spurs should try for both players and play Duncan a little more often at the 5. Of course, that would mean having to trade Horry, but at this point it's totally worth it.

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    Plus, I like guys that can block shots.

    I look for that and that's why I like Swift and Thomas.

    A lot of people look at low-pot players and concentrate on PTS and REB, but shotblocking makes all the difference!

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    The spurs are done with trade talks. If they have interest with Thomas , they would probably get him when his contract expires. The spurs are not really accustomed to bringing-in young and undeveloped rookies in their lineup. They prefer players who play in another professional league (usually in Europe). Maybe that's why they prefer to get a professional basketball player like Splitter and Mahinmi rather than getting college players from the NCAA.

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    Really? You don't think they're still working the phones, trying to move an expiring contract or two?

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    "Done with trade talks" implies that they ever seriously started.

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    Really? You don't think they're still working the phones, trying to move an expiring contract or two?
    I don't think so. The spurs isn't really that big on trades. but I can never be really sure. The NBA is a tournament run for profits. If the SA think they can get more by shipping out contracts, I wouldn't blame them.

    But as an observer, I believe that no trades shall be made. The team is still compe ive. The losses we got in the couple of games are close ones (except for NO).

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    "Done with trade talks" implies that they ever seriously started.

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