Is anyone passionately FOR Hillary Clinton?

[Trainwreck2100]

I just came from the rally, and i deeply appreciate the college aged women the support Hillary.

[gameFACE]

To answer the original question I know one guy at work who a few months ago was passionately supporting Hillary. His main reason was to vote against any Republican candidate. I haven't asked him how he feels about Obama of late since Obama has all the momentum.

I'm going for Obama! He's the most genuine of the three major candidates left. McCain would just be a continuation of the doom and gloom approach Bush's administration has. Obama has the potential to be a real uniter. Nothing wrong with that. I was at the rally on Tuesday but my mind had been made up a few weeks ago. Hillary and McCain rub people the wrong way.

And the truth is - no candidate has ANY better experience than the other or is more qualified.

[Jekka]

I really wanted to be passionately for Hillary - I really, really want to see a woman in the White House (that isn't an arm accessory from the Stepford line), and honestly I tried to rationalize her as my choice for a while because I wanted to see a woman there. But, I'd rather wait for a different female candidate to make that happen.

It's still pretty damn sad to me that we haven't had a female president yet, and if Hillary doesn't get the nomination this time around, I have a hard time thinking of another woman right now who could generate as much attention. I have faith that some woman will do it in my lifetime, but it has to be someone better, less polarizing, more likeable and uniting.

[MannyIsGod]

manny and peewee, unless something has changed, i thought hilary and obama's health care plans were virtually identical, save for the fact that hillary actually explains how she'd pay for it.

And the part where Hillary fines you for not having health insurance if you don't want it.

[DarkReign]

but it has to be someone better, less polarizing, more likeable and uniting.

I would agree. Hillary is much too divisive, whether its her fault or not is debatable, but it it doesnt make it any less true.

To answer the thread le, if Hillary wins the nomination, Im voting McCain/Other in a heartbeat.

If Obama wins the nomination, then I'll actually have a choice and will need to listen to the "debates" and platforms and read up on their individual plans.

Healthcare sounds all well and good, but that idea still needs to pass Congress. If the Dems pick up seats in both Houses, then it *might* happen.

If they dont, or even lose seats in either House, then Healthcare is a pipe dream and you'll have elected a President on terms that never will have materialized.

Therefore, I would suggest looking to other issues and qualities as a barometer for your vote. ie foreign policy, fiscal responsibility, domestic policy and overall government reform.

Healthcare, as I have been reminded repeatedly in the Other forum, is the single most expensive venture this country would ever undertake. I dont know about you folks, but I am taxed enough. I dont have children, I own a house and I make damn good coin. I dont have exemptions to minimize what the government already takes from me, and what they take is significant.

And the things that they take FOR are social programs I will NEVER benefit from. Nor will any of you who are 32 or younger. Medicaid? Medicare? Social Security?

All gone. Yet we pay for it.

My point is, I am for universal healthcare, but the only way to do it is a complete reform of the tax code and how we are taxed, IMO. You cant just add-on ANOTHER tax onto already existing taxes. Thats lunacy.

Since none of the current crop of candidates are willing to discuss the ty taxation in this country, then thats a nonstarter for any discussion of healthcare and the added taxes that would need to be incurred to pay for it.

All in all, Im saying....look upon other issues to make your decision. Healthcare is just as fanciful of a dream as it was in the mid-90s...nothing has changed in that regard.

[Evan]

They only way I will vote for McCain is if Clinton wins the dem party.

The damage done by Bush in splitting the parties further will only be widened by her.

Even her own supporters are feeling betrayed by her now that they are seeing how much of her campaign money she has wasted.

I think she can do an awesome job in the right place but not at the top. I am not against her, just against her as president. It's good to have a bulldog like her set in a direction to get something done but I don't think she could handle the top gig.

[JoeChalupa]

I think she did well last night but it is time to pass the torch to a new era.

SI SE PUEDE!!

[johnsmith]

I think she did well last night but it is time to pass the torch to a new era.

SI SE PUEDE!!

This I fully agree with, regardless of the political party. Can we finally steer away from the most worthless generation of all time "the baby boomers" and let them retire and eat up all the money.

Let's just get rid of them for christ sake.

I'm already annoyed by the surge of "senior citizen rights" bull we are going to hear about over the next 15-20 years and it hasn't even started yet.

[Jimcs50]

I guess I am ok with Obama being President, but if he appoints Marion Barry as ambassador to Columbia, then I am going to think that we ed up royally.

[Evan]

I think we have had enough Bush's and Clinton's over the past few decades to last this country till the end of its days.

Its been since the 80's!!!!!!!!

[atxrocker]

if this goes down to obama/mccain, i may end up not voting at all in this ty election

[Evan]

Can you be bought? Do you take paypal?

[clambake]

if you're worried about the economy or foreign policy, then you can't vote for mccain.

[Evan]

if you're worried about the economy or foreign policy, then you can't vote for mccain.

100 more years of war!

Sounds like a great plan to me!

[JoeChalupa]

if this goes down to obama/mccain, i may end up not voting at all in this ty election

Then I don't want to hear any in' when you have a ty day after the election.

[ploto]

Men do not have to worry-- women in this country will never reach the level of power and accomplishment of which they are capable because of other women.

[Heath Ledger]

Universal Healthcare ain't ever gonna happen. It's a fairy tale.

[Evan]

Universal Healthcare ain't ever gonna happen. It's a fairy tale.

I don't believe that.

[Heath Ledger]

Trust me, i just asked Satan and he told me "When freezes over"

[BonnerDynasty]

How will it affect the economy if interest rates are frozen for 5 years? What about giving the poor victims who were forced into their ARM 90 days to not have to pay what they owe?

Question.

Anyone?

[Heath Ledger]

Well they are talkig about a freeze o foreclosures for a while so that should really help.

[Satan]

Trust me, i just asked Satan and he told me "When freezes over"

You need to get off them meds you damn liar.

[JoeChalupa]

Very sad to hear about the Dallas Police Officer killed today while escorting Hillary Clinton's motorcade.

[MannyIsGod]

Men do not have to worry-- women in this country will never reach the level of power and accomplishment of which they are capable because of other women.

You're the most bitter woman I know and thats QUITE an accomplishment considering some of the women I know.

[SpursWoman]

You're the most bitter woman I know and thats QUITE an accomplishment considering some of the women I know.

Didn't we have this conversation at a GTG one time ... about how most women were es to each other, which is why both Kori & I have mostly male friends?


I honestly don't have an opinion about any particular candidate ... I'm middle of the road, and when I lean I lean to the right. But now? I just don't know. And I'd vote for a woman in a heartbeat if I felt she was perfect for the job, but I just don't trust Hillary. Maybe because I wasn't a toddler or in diapers when she & Bill were in the White House? I dunno ...