The funny thing about you Barry bashers...
Out of Mario Elie, Stephen Jackson, Steve Kerr, Mike Finley...all those guys...
First let me preface this...I am a Mario Elie Fan...he is one of my favorite Spurs ever and I fully credit him with being the guy that turned this franchise around...
But out of all those guys...they all had other guards swings on the bench that pitched during their runs...
Barry really was our back up rotation...the only one. By far our weakest guard bench, when it basically consisted of one guy...who incidentally you guys bashed the out of game in and game out.
Even though...he shot better in that post season, than Stephen Jackson, Mario Elie, Jaren Jackson...Manu Ginobili...and still all you guys did was bash the out of him because you can't see jack beyond PPG and how many chest bumps a player does after a dunk.
And that was our hardest run to a le...and we didn't need Michael fukcing Finley...in fact the only thing I remember him doing that year was whining like a about Bruce Bowen's d.
Yeah, getting annoyed at a three point shooter for passing up wide open three pointers is damn near unforgivable. What haters we were. Glad you were there to try to on someone else in order to prop up "your" guy as usual.
The only reason it was the weakest guard bench is because of who was there passing up shots. It certainly makes everyone else's job that much harder.
Can you prove that? Becuase I can prove that Mike D'antoni ripped the asshole out of his club for leaving Barry open...( go watch the Suns series and you will see D'antoni doing it in one of the games, on TV).
If Mike D'antoni wouldn't leave him open you think AJ and Larry Brown will?
Dude's only a former 3 point champ and the 14th best 3 shooter in NBA history...
Yeah...Larry Brown was just leaving him wide open all day long...
Stupid .
See...you just pull unsubstantiated out of your ing ass and then claim I am the one with the double stadard...
Well I said Finley missed those shots...
Fact. I was right, not one but two.
I can prove Finley has sucked both in the post season and in the regular season, as a Spur worse than Barry ever has.
Fact.
I can also prove that prior to last season Barry was the best post season 3 point threat in Spurs history.
Fact.
I can prove we won a le with him being the main guard off the bench, moreso than any other player had been the main guard off the bench.
Fact.
Oh..and it was due to injury you dumbass...if we hadn't had Barry we wouldn't have that le you ungrateful .
You think we'd have won if Barry had been injured and Devin or Beno had been asked to do that?
And I can also prove that we lost a le by adding Finley to that same ing team. And Finley going ahead of Barry in the rotation.
Fact.
I've got nothing but facts backing my up...
You've got the fumes you are inhaling from sucking Finley's ass backing you up.
Either post something of a factual nature to prove any of you are saying...or shut the up about playing favorites.
You guys are the ones playing favorites...not me.
Fact - Michael Finley hit the go-ahead three to put the Spurs up two with 15 seconds left in a must-win game 4 in Dallas in the 06 WCSF.
Fact - Michael Finley completely trapped Dirk Nowitzki in the corner and forced him into a horrible fading Hail Mary to try to even the score with 7 seconds left in game 6.
Fact - Michael Finley made a three to bring the Spurs to within one point with 1:45 to go in game 7 of the 2006 WCSF with Dallas.
Fact - Michael Finley averaged 13.5 ppg on 55.6% shooting (and 47.1% from beyond the arc) in games 4-7 of the 2006 series with Dallas.
Fact - Michael Finley did hit in fact hit a gamewinning shot to give Dallas game 1 of the 2003 WCF. Certainly that game had to mean something.
Fact - Stephen Jackson missed an open three that would have won game 2 of the 2003 Finals. Therefore, he also sucks by whoott logic.
Wow, you're going to hold a shot with 4 seconds left in an 8-point game against Finley?
What a ing hater you are.
Can I prove that Barry passed up shots when he was open? Yes. Can I prove it to you? No. I showed you the salary figures, and you still think money had nothing to do with Finley being the Mavs' amnesty cut.
Nice try. He was a slam dunk champion. He did participate in a 3 point contest. I believe he came in last. Your inaccuracies aside, he is a great shooter, which is why it was so frustrating, and so very fresh in my mind, that he was failiing to attempt open threes once he joined the Spurs. There are stats to support the decline in his offensive numbers, but I'm sure you'll continue to prevent those things from detering you in any way.
Never said anything like that. If he'd been open all day long it wouldn't have really mattered. When the team works their ass off to get a shooter an open look five times and he passes up three of them, it's bad basketball. Not that you actually know anything about basketball.
I never said Barry sucked, which is an opinion, and not easily supported by facts anyway. I simply said he should shoot more when open, and you got all butthurt about it because you're an idiot. Barry missed 100 percent of those shots he passed up. Anything above 0% shooting for Finley is a bonus. I actually don't have a problem with a guy missing good shots. I've only had a problem with a guy not playing his role, and I certainly won't try to diminish what he accomplished with the team. That's your job.
You can prove he was a threat? He's a threat just by being who he is, whether he takes a shot or not. Imagine what you could prove if he attempted some shots, or at least played as well as he did in Seattle. That he attempted one fewer three pointer than Bowen did in the 2005 playoffs supports my position, not yours.
That doesn't prove that he didn't pass up open shots. Nor does it come near supporting your belief that Finley "sucks" any more than my listing the shots that Barry missed over his career is evidence of anything.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
What are you talking about? Do you even know anymore? Who's being ungrateful by bad mouthing a player that contributed to a championship run. Oh, yeah. You are. Finley got put in a position where he was asked to play out of position in a small lineup in a physical playoff series and he tried to do it. You call him a loser because he lost.
Don't mention the subtractions. Just mention that Finley's never been on a championship team and hope nobody notices that you're wrong.
Well you're half right; what you've got is .
You can't prove it all...I saw you guys saying he was passing up open shots all the time when he clearly had a defender rushing towards him in time to disrupt the shots...that's not truly an open shot.
I never said money had nothing to do with it...but it's a well know fact that Cuban was willing to go well over tax threshold in an effort to win.I showed you the salary figures, and you still think money had nothing to do with Finley being the Mavs' amnesty cut.
And now you guys are trying to spin it like he's Peter Holt part 2...when he isn't. And you know it.
What a ing bag you are...
Read, learn...believe me when I say this...read and learn...one of us does not know as much as the other and has just kicked their own ass severely. I am telling you this for your own good. Read and learn...before you go any further.
Barry was never a 3 point champ...that's hilarious.
Let me know when you find him on this list. If you have access to some information that I don't I'd love to see it.Barry was never a 3 point champ...that's hilarious.
2008 - Jason Kapono, Toronto Raptors
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Barry haters....
You guys slay me....
But because I love* you so much, now he is:
Ta Daaaaa
*but not in an unnatural or creepy way, like the way you love Brent Barry.
Private whottt, for sheer incompetence and dereliction of reason you are hereby dismissed from the SNLA.
Just keep repeating that to yourself over and over. It won't make me care what you think. At all.
Private Obstructed_View, for meritorious service you are hereby promoted to Captain and Art Director of the SNLA.But because I love* you so much, now he is:
Ta Daaaaa
*but not in an unnatural or creepy way, like the way you love Brent Barry.
NLAC is EXACTLY what this thread needed. Good to see you getting the troops in order, sir!
You go ahead and do that...be my guest.
the NLAC and the horse he rode in on...fairweather hasn't been here all season anyway...
Thank you. Your permission to continue to not care what you think means oodles to me. Really.You go ahead and do that...be my guest.
Last edited by Obstructed_View; 02-26-2008 at 05:40 PM. Reason: double negative which might confuse whottt
Hey...live and let live(in ignorance) I always say...
Fact - Michael Finley hit the go-ahead three to put the Spurs up two with 15 seconds left in a must-win game 4 in Dallas in the 06 WCSF.
Fact - Michael Finley completely trapped Dirk Nowitzki in the corner and forced him into a horrible fading Hail Mary to try to even the score with 7 seconds left in game 6.
Fact - Michael Finley made a three to bring the Spurs to within one point with 1:45 to go in game 7 of the 2006 WCSF with Dallas.
Fact - Michael Finley averaged 13.5 ppg on 55.6% shooting (and 47.1% from beyond the arc) in games 4-7 of the 2006 series with Dallas.
Fact - Michael Finley did hit in fact hit a gamewinning shot to give Dallas game 1 of the 2003 WCF. Certainly that game had to mean something.
Fact - Stephen Jackson missed an open three that would have won game 2 of the 2003 Finals. Therefore, he also sucks by whoott logic.
Wow, you're going to hold a shot with 4 seconds left in an 8-point game against Finley?
What a ing hater you are.
That's not why I hate Finley...it is however why I ultimately view him a choker.
The reason I hate Finley is because...
A. He was the heart and soul of the Mavs. I don't myself out as easily as you guys do.
B. He was a worse Bowen whiner than Ray Allen. Again...I don't myself out as easily as you guys do.
C. He did turn cancerous in Dallas. And that's the main reason they let him go.
D. We added him to a championship team and becamse his old team's . Call it krma or whatever you want...but just don't say it didn't happen.
I don't hate players I consider to be chokers...I just don't particularly like them on the court int he last seconds of big games.
I consider Finley to the direst of thse types of threats because he is hte type that will earn the trust to be on the court...only to let you down.
You can seach the forum and see the day we signed Michael Finley...I said the exact same thing I am saying now...and that's exactly what he did against the Mavs.
I said he's a good enough player to demand those minutes and to be on the court in that situation...and that's when he burns you. And that's exactly what he did...that was a difference between that team being a Mav , and the 05 team that was a champ...the only thing we added was Finley and Van E.
Sure, you ran down Finley because you thought he was a threat to your crush's PT. You were correct on that count.
And I was also correct that it would cost us a repeat.
How the did it cost us the repeat, when Finley was one of the best players on the team in that series? He was certainly the best player outside of the main core of Parker/Ginobili/Duncan.
Because if hadn't been on the team Pop would have likely started playing Oberto then, and going with the defensive orianted scheme that has produced 3 tiles(really 4) instead of trying to win with small ball...
So your ing beef should be with Pop and not Finley if that's what you believe.
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