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I get a feeling if the Spurs make the playoffs we will see Manu ascend to greatness.
I like the fact that Manu is getting worked up about the losses. That will likely translate into the team as a whole getting more motivated.
I honestly feel like the team has developed a big dose of "Horry-itis" and is just coasting along. Each year Timmy seems to be shifting gears a lot more apparently once the playoffs are here.
I still fully expect this team to make a late charge and do some damage in the post season.
I believe, and it's not the Spurs homer in me. I just see a very good team, a team that is largely in tact from last year with improvements at the reserves, who can do exactly what they did last season if they can get on a little run and enter the playoffs on a high note.
I get a feeling if the Spurs make the playoffs we will see Manu ascend to greatness.
Maybe it's because he spent a lot of time in DallasAnd then there's Finley, who is a guy who takes the regular season too seriously. He's probably somewhere right now holding back tears.
Um...what if I think there is a good chance the Rockets will advance to the second round for reasons entirely unrelated to Scola?
No...that wasn't a good bet, because that bet is about the Rockets team performance and not Scola.
IF Scola was not on the Rockets, I still would not take that bet.
If Scola fans want to prove something by tying it into team success...then let's bet on if the Rockets will beat the Spurs.
I mean afterall...a player worth a seasons worth of ing should be able to get his team past the Spurs....I mean the Rockets FO is so much smarter and well run than the Spurs.
Let's make the bet...you guys want ride Houston...then ride them. Get off the fence.
Everyone ing about what a horrible trade this was...
Bet me that the Rockets will beat the Spurs should they meet in the playoffs.
1. Scola is an asshole. That is the prmary reason I don't like him.and gotten rid of that headache for the rest of us. now, he's becoming the doppler of argspursfan, speculating off interviews and stats to make an unmakeable point.
that scola isnt a superstar/all star/greatest pf in history is not news.
that he is a bargain, contract vs production, and better than a 2nd round pick, is really not debateable IMO.
2. I never said he was going to be the worst player in history. I said he wouldn't translate to the NBA as well as Manu.....he won't. Scola will never be anything close to the MVP candidate he was in Europe in the NBA, he will be a very average player that will wind up a backup PF.
IOW...all the people acting like this is a big deal are fools, blinded by a blue and white flag or plain old ignorance.
3. For all we know, Scola forced the trade.
FWIW...I thougth we'd get more for Scola than we got...you just have to convince me the Spurs had that opportunity. I don't think they did.
I think Horry is the one that he sees after a loss laughing and joking around.
Thats just how Horry is.
10 games in 15 days.
whott: "but...but... Brendan gets more rebounds per 48 mins"
What a pathetic definition of owning...I know more about basketbaall than both of you combined...I've watched more basketball than both of you combined. And statistically, you don't have a leg to stand on.
WTF?
Your level of hate is amazing, you can twist reality beyond frontiers just to try to win an argument.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031502066.html
After seeing his friend GinÓbili have success, Scola had hoped to play with him in San Antonio. Instead, he's in Houston.
"It was no problem for me. I understand [the Spurs] didn't have room for me," Scola said. "They give me this opportunity. If they didn't trade me, I may have to stay in Europe and I never play in NBA. They traded me and I'm really thankful for it."
But I guess, somehow, in your delusional mind, that is being an arsehole.
If you were real Spurfan...there'd be no way you'd root for the Rockets...but of course, the reasons behind that mindset predated Manu being on this team...and I seriously doubt you were a Spurfan then.
I've go not problems with you rooting for the Rockets...I have a problem with you claiming to be a Spurfan while you do it...
1. A true Spur fan would never root for the Rockets.
2. And a true Spurfan would know why.
3. You have to be an idiot to base your NBA fandom on National Rooting Interest. It cannot be done. The NBA has nothing to do with National Baketball...why don't you go try to swim in a car...it makes more sense.
Let me just repeat this for emphasis...out of any team in the entire NBA..
The Rockets are the absolute last team any true Spur fan would want to see win, under any conditions.
When you figure out why, you'll also figure out why you are owned.
Are you serious?
1. The night Scola was drafted he said, it'd better if I hadn't been drafted at all.
I know you weren't here then...that was before Manu was even on the team. There was only one Argie here then...and his name was Fizzzar.
2. In 2004 RC Buford asked Scola where was the rebounding, at which point Scola got indignant(to his credit, he improved his rebounding after than, even in Europe).
3. In 2004, when asked about joining the Spurs during the Olympic tournament, Scola flat otu said he didn't care about the Spurs, he wasn't think about them.
4. Several times during Scola's negotiations with the Spurs during offseasons, there were rumors that Scola was infuriated with the Spurs and would never play for them.
I'm sorry, but you can't just post some article from 2008 and think it makes you an expert on the past 5 years of Scola and Spurs interworkings.
And Scola has smoothed it over..but the bottom line is, he's not here...why?
And please don't say the Spurs are stupid....they aren't stupid. They won 4 championships...they found Manu before Argentina did, before even he knew what he was.
Either he wanted the trade...plenty of evidence to indicate that, since he was upset that the Spurs drafted him(just because he has a reason to be upset doesn't mean he wasn't upset, stupidly).
or..
They knew he wasn't any better than Oberto(he isn't) except in the area of what he could be traded for.
They saw his legacy of Euroleague chokes.
They didn't like his at ude.
And they didn't want him on this team.
Overall conclusion: Worthless to read whottt's posts!
oh.... and manu rocks!
It's funny how all you guys keep asking me for the link to SCola's comments the night he was drafted...
Boy have you proved your point....
You weren't around to read them at the time? Not to mention the fact that you must not have been anywhere near ST at that time. I was. Maybe that has something to do with my opinion?
Go ahead...tell yourselves I am making it up...continue living ignorant.
I dont know if somebody's already posted this pic, and sorry if that happened but it really really impressed me to see it
ok Wottt,since you don't wanna bet on the Rockets as a team let's do this:
I bet you Scola will average 15/8 in the playoffs and the rockets will move past the 1st round.
If Scola averages less tham 15/8 or the Rockets don't go past the 1 st round YOU WIN.
If Scola averages 15/8 or more and the Rockets move to the 2nd round I WIN.
whoever wins get to pick the loser's avatar pic,and le under it + signature.
Deal.
I dont know if somebody's already posted this pic, and sorry if that happened but it really really impressed me to see it
that was right when the buzzer sounded right?
I couldn't tell from that img link on the post, but clicking on the url, with it enlarged, he's foaming at the mouth already like a rabid coyote.
Dude does not like losing. He looks like he's going to strangle someone
ok Wottt,since you don't wanna bet on the Rockets as a team let's do this:
I bet you Scola will average 15/8 in the playoffs and the rockets will move past the 1st round.
If Scola averages less tham 15/8 or the Rockets don't go past the 1 st round YOU WIN.
If Scola averages 15/8 or more and the Rockets move to the 2nd round I WIN.
whoever wins get to pick the loser's avatar pic,and le under it + signature.
Deal.
I like my bet better...
Rockets have the #1 seed. They have the mighty Scola. According to you, this was a horrible trade which hurt the Spurs.
So therefore...you should have no problems picking the Rockets to beat the Spurs should they meet in the post season.
I mean...if it doesn't make the Rockets better than the Spurs, then it didn't hurt them. Add in the fact that is was probably the best deal they could get...
IF both teams are about as healthy as they are now...
If you stand with Scola, and this trade was as big of a deal as you have made of it you should have no problems picking the Rockets over the Spurs.
They have better record than the Spurs. And they are 2-1 against the Spurs this season. And the Spurs are struggling as we speak.
Eveyrthing is in your favor.
Stand with Scola...stand with your NBA team.
Stand with him now as you do everytime the Spurs lose and the Rockets win.
That is the only bet I will take with you.
YOU don't be silly. Oberto's pass and his moves without the ball are much better than Haywood. What's your f problem with the guy?
why in the world would Manu pick Oberto over Scola for basketball. that's just silly
it's like picking Brendan Haywood over David West
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we should have banished Horry to devil's island until the playffs
Direct link with quotes please for #1, #2 & #4, otherwise it's just gossip, which could be true, but also something a writer with a lot of imagination made up. I wasn't around here, but I followed Scola's career even before you
started to have wet dreams with Brent Barry in the Clippers. He never declared any of those things you acuse him.
Oh, and about #3. Manu would have answered the same if asked that question in the 2002 World Championships. It's a short elimination tournament, with plenty of back-to-backs, if you don't focus only in winning it, you lose. In a recent interview Manu said that winning a Gold Medal with Argentina at the Olympics again is more important than another NBA ring. Is Manu an arsehole too?
The rest of your rant can be answered with simple statements. Scola went to the Rockets because there he was offered more playing time and a better contract. He wanted to be a Spur, but the front office decided that Bonner was a better option. Scola won't be an NBA All-Star, but he will be a good, solid team player who understands his role and helps his team win. I'm not as blind as some other Argies who claim that Scola is Chamberlain reloaded. However, your blind hate has taken you to the other extreme.
Mad at Scola? Why? He didn't decide what team he'd go to, almost no player in the NBA or any of the pro leagues in American sports do, the trade system works that way. Owners and front offices decide pretty much everything. Did the Spurs front office made a mistake? Yes. But that's it, everybody should move on. Scola isn't mad at the Spurs, the Spurs aren't angry on Scola, all of them are worried about the race in the West this current season.
Information Minister Muhammad al-Whott:
"Luis Scola is an infidel. I now inform you that you are too far from reality. I triple guarantee you, Scola hates the Spurs. Let the Argentinian infidels bask in their illusion. The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies! Scola hates the Spurs, always has, always will. The leader of the international criminal gang of bas s, he is."
whottt, Scola is a great teamate, player, person and he can prove it every night. Not bad for a rookie year IMO.
Shut up and get over it.
Thanks for the translation.
I love and respect Manu, not just for his play, but his at ude to basketball and to life. What a champion!
were u stomping the ground when you typed that?
Fine...I made all of them up. Believe what you want. Doesn't make you right...
I'm not making them up. That's the reality of this situation.
No...but Scola didn't say it was all about the Gold Medal. He said it was all about Tau.Oh, and about #3. Manu would have answered the same if asked that question in the 2002 World Championships. It's a short elimination tournament, with plenty of back-to-backs, if you don't focus only in winning it, you lose. In a recent interview Manu said that winning a Gold Medal with Argentina at the Olympics again is more important than another NBA ring. Is Manu an arsehole too?
And even then I understand...I just didn't like the way he said it. He said like an asshole and his face went from a smile to a sneer at the mere mention of signing with the Spurs. Was pretty obvious there was bad blood...
And BTW, I did comment on most of these things as they happened...but Spurs Talk has gone from being not in existence at all, to being called Full Sport Press, to Spurs Talk, and jumping a server at least once since then.
The rest of your rant can be answered with simple statements. Scola went to the Rockets because there he was offered more playing time and a better contract. He wanted to be a Spur, but the front office decided that Bonner was a better option. Scola won't be an NBA All-Star, but he will be a good, solid team player who understands his role and helps his team win. I'm not as blind as some other Argies who claim that Scola is Chamberlain reloaded. However, your blind hate has taken you to the other extreme.
Mad at Scola? Why? He didn't decide what team he'd go to, almost no player in the NBA or any of the pro leagues in American sports do, the trade system works that way. Owners and front offices decide pretty much everything. Did the Spurs front office made a mistake? Yes. But that's it, everybody should move on. Scola isn't mad at the Spurs, the Spurs aren't angry on Scola, all of them are worried about the race in the West this current season.
Information Minister Muhammad al-Whott:
"Luis Scola is an infidel. I now inform you that you are too far from reality. I triple guarantee you, Scola hates the Spurs. Let the Argentinian infidels bask in their illusion. The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies! Scola hates the Spurs, always has, always will. The leader of the international criminal gang of bas s, he is."
Frankly dude...none of that did anything to bolster your stance that you
A. Know what you are talking about.
B. Have followed the Scola situation closely...not even as recently as this past summer.
Scola had supreme leverage as he had the right to sign a long term with Tau at any time of his choosing leaving the Spurs with absolutely nothing in return for his rights. And in fact...it was possible he was going to do just that. That would force the Spurs to trade him for something, anything, that would even give him a great deal of leverage on which team he was going to play for...
If you don't think there were plenty of hostilities between the Spurs and Scola during the course of his negotiations with them over several summers...you were paying absolutely no attention to the situation.
I fought Argentina over it every time it happened...
Including posters like smeagol.
You get over it....I'm glad he's with the Rockets.
I just wish all his fans would join him.......................
Instread of pretending to be fans of the Spurs and their "incompetent" Front Office. Go root for Scola...and the Rockets and their "smart" FO.
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