Jason Kidd Trade was a disaster

[DaDakota]

All you Mavs fans spouting off about how "no one but you" can understand the Mavs....

ROFLMAO.....

How could ANYONE other than a Mavs fan have an opinion on a message board? I mean HOW?

Of course since it doesn't agree with the new rose colored trade agenda, it stirs the pot.

Even if it is....100% accurate.

DD FTW !

[monosylab1k]

I said the Mavs should have kept Nash, not that D'Antoni and Nelson have different philosophies, that is you trying to make up stuff.

hm really?

Nash's success was tied to Don Nelson.

Yeah, Nash has been terrible under D'Antoni....I mean just awful.....

[DaDakota]

And the Suns up to this point have been a vague facsimile of Nellie's Dallas teams, a great regular season team that literally gets physically ousted from the playoffs. Maybe Shaq changes that, but I still don't see it as that big of a mistake to let Nash walk. What has Phoenix done with him that Dallas hasn't?

The Suns would have won it last year if it were not for Amare leaving the bench, they panicked with the Shaq move too.....

DD

[monosylab1k]

The Suns would have won it last year if it were not for Amare leaving the bench

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Let it go..and just worry about the Rockets..Unforunately Dallas was not going to win with Harris...and if you actually believe they were your absolutely bonkers!

If Alston played for Avery today he would be out of the league..Avery is the biggest control freak in the world.

Look, I am no Avery fan, he reminds me of JVG, whom I HATED as the Rockets coach.....

But the Mavs getting rid of quality players is what is causing their demise....

Not the coaching...

DD

[TampaDude]

The Suns would have won it last year if it were not for Amare leaving the bench
DD

Nope...the Spurs had that series won, suspensions or no suspensions. The Suns couldn't beat the Spurs when the Suns were at full strength and the Spurs were without Horry. Give it a rest, folks. Spurs = CHAMPS.

[DaDakota]

Nope...the Spurs had that series, suspensions or no suspensions. The Suns couldn't beat the Spurs when the Suns were at full strength and the Spurs were without Horry. Give it a rest, folks. Spurs = CHAMPS.

Yep, they won, but it doesn't change my opinion.....if Amare stayed on the bench, I believe the Suns win that series and the Utah one and then the championship.

But he left the bench was suspended, and the rest is history.....

As for the thread topic.....the Mavs blew it.......

Jason Kidd is older than dirt......bad trade.

DD

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The first moderatly intelligent thing you have said and without a curse word to boot, well done.

It does take some time, which is why it was S T U P I D to make the trade. Dallas was already a contender, why mess it up?

They won 67 games and ran into a hot team last year....come on, they were almost at the top of the WC when this trade happened, now they are near the bottom.

Devin Harris was a tough matchup with his speed and penetration and had shown MAJOR growth in the last couple of years...heck he was even hitting some 3s this year.

You don't trade a good young player for an over the hill star, it never works.

Take it from someone who had to watch Pippen play in Houston, it never works out.

DD

Well what about the Pistons trading for Aguirre? Or the Rockets trading for Clyde? Or the Pistons more recently trading for Sheed?

[monosylab1k]

The Suns would have won it last year if it were not for Amare leaving the bench

I think he's completely killed his credibility with this. As if posting opinions so moronic that mavsfan1000 looked like a genius in comparison didn't do that already.

If Amare didn't leave the bench the Spurs would have won in 7. Unless Tim Duncan died before game 7. Then the Suns would have won and then gotten beat by Utah.

[DaDakota]

they got rid a back up center who doesn't play and a decent point guard for a hall of fame point guard..how was that a stupid trade? Especially considering they needed leadership and mental toughness which what Kidd has!

Over rated, how many championships has the mentally tough Kidd won?

Also, if you don't think coaching has anything to do with it..why are the Rockets playing better without Van Gundy with Yao injured?

I think the type of coaching has a big effect, but I don't think you take a team to 67 wins and then all of the sudden forget how to coach. If the team has given up on Avery, they have to let him go.....no biggie.

As for JVG....GOOD RIDDANCE.....we are so much better without him.

But, the team needed to play for him to get his professionalism and to teach Tmac and Yao how to play D...then they were ready for a players coach like Adelman.

The difference between the Rockets and the Mavs is that the Rockets players are all in their prime, while Jason Kidd farts dust.

DD

[DazedAndConfused]

Dakota = dumbass trash. Don't argue with him, he knows nothing about basketball.

DEREK FISHER SHOULD BE SUPSENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Well what about the Pistons trading for Aguirre? Or the Rockets trading for Clyde? Or the Pistons more recently trading for Sheed?

A fair point but I am not sure that any of those teams traded a good young player.....at least in the Rockets case it was Otis Thorpe for Clyde essentially veteran for veteran.

Not sure about the rest.

DD

[monosylab1k]

Dakota = dumbass trash. Don't argue with him, he knows nothing about basketball.

No no no in his infinite wisdom he told me that Jason Kidd never lets Dirk or Howard create offense, that Steve Nash has been successful in a slow iso offense, and that Don Nelson & Mike D'Antoni have completely different offensive philosophies. It's incredible stuff.

[DaDakota]

Dakota = dumbass trash. Don't argue with him, he knows nothing about basketball.

DEREK FISHER SHOULD BE SUPSENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You and Mono should really get together, maybe you could actually string some of your 4 letter words together to make a compound curse word.

Such eloquonce.....or is it ignorance.

DD

[DaDakota]

No no no in his infinite wisdom he told me that Jason Kidd never lets Dirk or Howard create offense, that Steve Nash has been successful in a slow iso offense, and that Don Nelson & Mike D'Antoni have completely different offensive philosophies. It's incredible stuff.

Sorry, I am still trying to find a slow down offense that Jason Kidd has been successful in.......

LOL

DD

[monosylab1k]

eloquonce

maybe you should just stick to 4-letter words because anything bigger isn't working out too well for ya.

[monosylab1k]

Sorry, I am still trying to find a slow down offense that Jason Kidd has been successful in....

Nobody claimed he had been. Nice job, uh, reading.

[DaDakota]

maybe you should just stick to 4-letter words because anything bigger isn't working out too well for ya.

I never could spell.....

But my takes are spot on.......without the classless cursing.

DD

[DaDakota]

You really are a moron aren't you? Kidd isn't mentally tough? He is probably one of the top 5 point guards ever to play the game. It's his fault that the Nets ended playing my Spurs and the Lakers in the finals?

Look I think his mental toughness is vastly overated, yes he is an all time great, a wonderful PG.....

But that was 3 years ago.....now, he is like Hakeem in Toronto, his time has passed.

I am sure Barkley and MJ are still mentally tough too, but they couldn't get it done anymore either.

DD

[monosylab1k]

But my takes are spot on

yeah "Jason Kidd doesn't let Josh or Dirk run the offense" was just so accurate.

[Findog]

The Suns would have won it last year if it were not for Amare leaving the bench, they panicked with the Shaq move too.....

DD

Absolutely false. Spurs went 3-2 against Amare, and I'd go with them and their poise in a G7 over Duhmare. Championship teams win on the road. Championship teams win when facing elimination.

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You and Mono should really get together, maybe you could actually string some of your 4 letter words together to make a compound curse word.

Such eloquonce.....or is it ignorance.

DD

the only 4 letter word he used was "with".

[DaDakota]

yeah "Jason Kidd doesn't let Josh or Dirk run the offense" was just so accurate.

Laugh all the way to the lottery with that mentally tough Kidd.

DD

[monosylab1k]

Laugh all the way to the lottery with that mentally tough Kidd.

Explain why you were completely wrong about the Mavs offense with Kidd, Mr. "I want intelligent discussion with eloquonce". Explain that bit of "intelligent discussion".

[nkdlunch]

you guys are funny blaming all on Avery. WHen it was Marc Cuban who created and blessed the Kidd Trade.

face it, the biggest problem is the owner and there is really no way to fix that.