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Kobe is a great great player but if I was drafting one to build around it would be Tim. So hard to find a gifted Big Like Tim.
Kobe > Timmy (he is a center btw) >>>> bunch of players > Dirk > Manu
Kobe is a great great player but if I was drafting one to build around it would be Tim. So hard to find a gifted Big Like Tim.
You're arguing with a Laker troll.
My bad.
Dirk is a choker
Manu > Dirk
Put Manu on the German NT in place of Dirk and they would've gotten a medal in 2008.
-El ing Nono
They probably would have. Manu got another one in '08 playing with basically Scola... Oberto was done, Nocioni was injured, Delfino is not even in the NBA anymore, and a Prigioni never made it... , he got injured in the semis against Team USA, and *STILL* got a medal...
Meanwhile, Dirk was back in Germany because he couldn't get his team out of the first round...
I wonder if anyone actually values el nono's opinion.
You care enough to wonder
I'm also worried about the overall intelligence of the world, which you are bringing down.
Is that how you save the world? Posting in Spurstalk? GTFO
Dude, awesome comeback!
You started the weak ass responses... I'm just par for the course...
They probably would have. Manu got another one in '08 playing with basically Scola... Oberto was done, Nocioni was injured, Delfino is not even in the NBA anymore, and a Prigioni never made it... , he got injured in the semis against Team USA, and *STILL* got a medal...
Meanwhile, Dirk was back in Germany because he couldn't get his team out of the first round...
Germany went 1-4 in the Olympics and lost to the U.S. by 49, to Greece by 23, to Spain by 13... yeahhhh, I don't think Manu would've won a medal in place of Dirk.
You thought enough of it to respond.
Manu sucks.
Please, don't forget to mention that they lost to ing Yao's China 59-55, and they would have moved on if they won that game. And Dirk played with Kaman on his team, basically equaling Ginobili playing with Scola.
Argentina beat Greece by 2 in the elimination round, and the recap for that game reads: "Manu Ginobili scored a game-high 24 points, including the final seven for Argentina, which has won five in a row after losing its Olympic opener against Lithuania."
I didn't watch the games but looking at the box score Dirk had 24/17 against China. pretty good.
In any case, even if they do win that game they likely get crushed by Lithuania in the Quarterfinals.
Are you really trying to imply Argentina and ing Germany are equivalent as far as basketball talent?
Very probably. I'd also argue his teammates have been wildly overappreciated.
With Nocioni injured, sure. This Argentina team was nowhere near the same that won it all in 2004. Coach was new and average at best, the PG was a walking disaster, Hermann didn't go, Nocioni had a busted knee. It was basically Ginobili, Scola and whatever we could get from Delfino. Oberto was done, just like now in the Spurs. As far as NBA talent, it was Gino and Scola.
Germany had Dirk and Kaman, who is a pretty good center with a post game.
The difference is that Argentina is a physical team. They play though to overcome what they lack in talent.
That's something a team lead by Nowitzki is never going to have. He sets the tone being the charmin' softie he is.
You don't know a lot about international basketball, do you? The 15th best Argentinian would easily be a top 4 player for Germany. And I mean really, really easily. Make it a top 3, I was overrating Hamann by a lot.
I was born in Argentina and watch my fair share of international ball, including Germany and Argentina. Talent-wise, *THIS* Argentina team that played in the Olympics was pretty bad (the exceptions being Manu and Scola). Argentina was incredibly good when the coach was Magnano, the PG was Sanchez and Oberto was still serviceable. Delfino showed promise, but sometimes you have to wonder what's on his head.
The day Manu retires from the Argentina national team, they're done. No more medals or anything for a long, long while.
Dirk is in the wrong team. One that puts emphasis on his shortcomings and fails to highlight his strengths. In a year of two, Dirk will he a good addition to the Spurs bench where he'll be able to really contribute.
How the did the Mavs beat the Spurs in 2006 when the Spurs had the THREE best players on the court?
Pablo Quinteros is twice as good as any German guard. I mean, some German players are barely good enough to play basketball as a job, full-time.
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