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    Re-watching the game again, some things I noticed:

    -Spurs actually did a good job against West -- for the most part. He just hit some tough azz shots. I'd start out with the same defensive scheme on him and see if he's still on fire.

    -Transition defense was poor. That will be fixed. Pop will make sure of that.

    -Spurs have to take and make threes. The Hornets are daring the Spurs to beat them from the outside. If it takes 40 three-point attempts, so be it. Other than Manu shooting contested step-back threes, every other look the Spurs got from deep were good looks.

    -Duncan got good looks, even against double-teams. I'm not worried at all about him being able to bounce back.

    -Chris Paul wasn't that good. He was good but not MVP good. Expect him to play much better.

    -Rebounding and lack of hustle hurt the Spurs more than anything. That was a pitiful amount of heart for a playoff game. The Spurs deserved to lose the game. They have to come out with more fight and will to win.

    I agree with all of that. I just stated in another thread that Manu won't be shooting those threes early in the offense tonight....at least I'd bet against it.

    West will be shown different looks defensively, and I'd expect to even see Udoka thrown out there a lot more.

    Tim will have a good game tonight. I expect him to be a lot quicker with his decision making and for the Spurs to have people cutting and/or moving into position for easy shots and for TD to find these folks when the double team comes at him.

    I think the Spurs will defend in transition a lot better and to have an overall better game.

    I think San Antonio likely will have 4 wins of 5 points or less in this series and the Hornets to have two or three wins of 20 points +.

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    Bowen is waaaay to small to cover West. If anything I maybe try Udoka on West and switch Bowen off of Peja and Paul.
    So Bowen is small to cover West (6'9") and not to cover Nowitzki (7'0")???
    Having said that, I don't think that Pop will change the game plan (yet): Bowen will split time guarding Paul and Peja.

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    I'm slightly encouraged by this.

    Unfortunately I think West is damn good enough to hit tough ass shots.

    The answer to slowing him or giving him trouble unfortunately, I think sits in Spain.
    Spain ? Don"t you mean Italy?

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    Re-watching the game again, some things I noticed:

    -Spurs actually did a good job against West -- for the most part. He just hit some tough azz shots. I'd start out with the same defensive scheme on him and see if he's still on fire.
    I agree...that's my take.


    What needs to be determined is if West was merely hot...or if we got an emerging Spur killer on our hands...if he's a Spur killer...he needs to be doubled, and I don't want to wait for another loss to find out.


    I'm not saying the Spurs need to double out of the gate in this game...or even gameplan to do it for the entire game...but if it's not #1A on their list options and adjustments to make in this series...then Pop sucks.


    -Transition defense was poor. That will be fixed. Pop will make sure of that.

    -Spurs have to take and make threes. The Hornets are daring the Spurs to beat them from the outside. If it takes 40 three-point attempts, so be it. Other than Manu shooting contested step-back threes, every other look the Spurs got from deep were good looks.
    I think that's the fault of the big 3 IMO...they kind of get tunnel vision and forget about their teamates from time to time...I don't think it's selfishness though...I think it's getting on Pop's wavelength and getting stuck on it.




    -Chris Paul wasn't that good. He was good but not MVP good. Expect him to play much better.

    Bruce Bowen had a lot of do with it...Chris Paul had the look of Bowen induced misery, the Bruce Bad Day, on his face. Paul's performance was tribute to Bowen annoying the out of him, and that's one reason I prefer to leave Bruce on him. Bruce doesn't let players be glamourboys...he makes them go to work, and sometimes a players inner primadonna is the best friend Bowen and the Spurs have.


    And the fact that he played poorly and we still got a butt kicking is the alarming thing to me. I was totally convinced that if you stop Paul you could stop the Hornets...and that simply wasn't the case, because of David West and his ability to carry the offense extremely well.




    -Rebounding and lack of hustle hurt the Spurs more than anything. That was a pitiful amount of heart for a playoff game. The Spurs deserved to lose the game. They have to come out with more fight and will to win.
    I think the Spurs were still feeling the effects of the Suns series...


    Sometimes...when a team gets it's ass kicked physically, the effects of it are not felt until the next series.


    Examples...I've always thought that the brutal series against the Spurs by the Lakers in 02 was the reason the Kings were able to take the Lakers to 7 games...the Spurs really made the Lakers work to win that series(as in having a double digit lead going into the fourth in every game and forcing the Lakers to come back) and dealt them a severe physical beating.


    Conversely...I think the Kings series VS the Spurs in 06 played a big role in us losing to the Mavs...as the Kings kicked our ass in that series. Too much Bonzi and Artest.


    I think the Spurs were still sunburnt in game 1...in particular Tim Duncan. I just don't think people really get what being matched up on Shaq does to a player in a playoff series like that, but Shaq damn sure does, he knows how to physically beat on a guy without making it obvious that's what he is doing...and everyone is acting like it's not the same now becuase Shaq is older...

    I completely disagree with that, I think Shaq is 10 times more physical now than he used to be, he's(Shaq) a mean old dog now, not a happy go lucky pup...and I think Duncan was still feeling the effects of it.
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    Put Bowen on Peja, shut him down, you win the game.

    He is the X Factor, I said that back at the end of February...

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    Put Bowen on Peja, shut him down, you win the game.

    He is the X Factor, I said that back at the end of February...
    I bet you 5 bucks he scores 17+ tonight. Deal?

    Peja that is***
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    Spain ? Don"t you mean Italy?

    No Splitter plays in spain....

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    I bet you 5 bucks he scores 17+ tonight. Deal?

    Peja that is***
    Wouldn't be shocked if he did.

    He needs to get Bowened though.

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    You'd think a Laker fan would have heard of Magic Johnson.
    So you did/do watch basketball outside the Spurs/Pistons!! Im shocked.

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    So you did/do watch basketball outside the Spurs/Pistons!! Im shocked.
    There were many ways to save face. That was not one of the ways.

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    There were many ways to save face. That was not one of the ways.
    So the post below (which relates to my first post of this thread) is me trying to save face? You seem to act like a fan of basketball outside the Spurs/Pistons but the below post makes me think otherwise.

    If the Spurs lose, I'll root for the Pistons. If the Pistons lose, I'll start watching baseball.

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    So the post below (which relates to my first post of this thread) is me trying to save face? You seem to act like a fan of basketball outside the Spurs/Pistons but the below post makes me think otherwise.
    I wasn't being serious in that thread. Well yeah I was in that I'm rooting for the Spurs followed by the Pistons -- because if the Pistons can win the championship that will 2005 look even better for the Spurs. But honestly, Lakers vs. Cavs > baseball.

    What does that have to do with a Laker Fan forgetting about Magic?

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    The liability with Duncan guarding West is obviously foul trouble.

    Let's not go overboard here. All the Spurs needed to do from the start is take one in NOLA. All they need to do to accomplish that is win on Monday. A win on Monday and we're back in control. And we're winning on Monday.
    :fail:

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    Win or lose this is it for the Spurs championship success. It all goes downhill for them after this season. So they need to turn this around because this is the final chapter of their championship era.
    Good take, tbh.

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    why bumb this thread

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    Maybe since we have West now idk...

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    Thanks for the write-up, youngster.

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